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Articles: My Thoughts | | Are Indians really dumb? - A pragmatic response | |
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| Ms.Shantala,
Thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts.
'..to be honest , sincere and disciplined(principled with integrity) one has to have a basic level of security. without that one cannot possibly be honest'. Seems to explain why some people behave that way. But I do not agree with this thought that one's character ( honesty, sincerity, integrity..) depends on how secure he/she is. I do not believe that character is conditional.
I find your views contradicting one another. 'one need enough security to be honest and keep up his/her integrity' and on the next few lines, you mentioned (as per Gandhi) 'that one has to be good even in the midst of bad'. I agree with the second that one's character is not conditional and does not depend on others.
'americans were to be in their place, they would have fared much worse than most average indians'
I do not know. But on the face of it, I prefer to differ. I think, they also did struggle and fought their independence and they created the america as it is today, like every other nation under colonial rule.
I appreciate your thoughts and it is required to have our own opinions and beliefs than so called right/good opinions. All different opinions co-exist just like billions of different people co-live in this world.
Posted by: Mr. Phoenix At: 20, Oct 2004 0:03:21 AM IST
exactly mr.phoenix,its the same people who are behaving differently in india and in america....but why??if everyone thinks that the place only will give u the ambience to express urself then i must disagree...its not the place which gives u the ambience to express urself but its the attitude of the people itself.firstly we have to eradicate this myth frm the people's mind then everything will be quite sensible.people shud learn to adopt what is best suited for their country and shud stick to it irrespective of others comments.i hope i am able to drive my point home.
Posted by: Miss samyukta konkay At: 17, Oct 2004 10:21:12 AM IST
Hello,
Your article was revealing to some extent. More than anything i liked the part where you spoke about Indians not being able to express themselves orginally. Not because I agree it is an absolute truth about Indians, but because, if you analyse it a little further, it brings out the broader issues of our political life. for instance, being a NRI myself,I know how Indians behave in work places.whenever there is a official meeting they don't come up with honest opinions about their problems.if they do, they are not very much sure about the repurcussions that follow. in short, what i mean to say is that, to be honest , sincere and disciplined(principled with integrity) one has to have a basic level of security. without that one cannot possibly be honest. and i completely agree with fact that it is difficult to start a business in India,but not so in US and so is it with students. most students in India cannot pursue the subject of their interest...myself being the victim of being born in India. but when i have crossed the borders of motherland, i truly understood what India gave me.it gave me the strength of character and personality ,it gave me the foresight to look beyond the narrow boundaries of life and finally a vast ocean of endurance to face difficulties. Ghandhiji says in his book 'My Experiments With Truth' that it is very easy to be good in the company of good fellows, but the ultimate test of character is when one can be good, in the midst of all that is bad.given the fact that we come from a third world country, it is my sincere opinion that we should appreciate our fellow indians for taking up their lives with such a semblance of uprighteousness. if americans were to be in their place, they would have fared much worse than most average indians. once again it is just my conviction and i dont intend that you share the same with me. as it is said in our scriptures, each of our mind is involved in a continous process of projecting the universe that is outside..so too your projections might not match my projections, but all they same they could co-exist in contradiction.
shantala.
Posted by: Ms. shantala kottisa At: 15, Oct 2004 3:25:47 PM IST
Samyukta,
I appreciate for you take the responsibility as an individual and believe that you are part of the making a nation. As 'Blue Screen ...' pointed out, there is no seperate entity called INDIA, but all of us who are living in INDIA. INDIA is what we are. I agree that people make nation. Thats is my point. ALl of us are equally responsible for what India is. Note that, People live differently in INDIA. They have different priorities, values and habits while in INDIA, which are quite differnt living outside INDIA and that makes a difference to INDIA as a country. And more over, people most often find a better purpose of their life outside INDIA. Rather they express it outside India.
Mr.Madhu,
This is a typical response, expected. As I mentioned, many of us think that whoever writes some thing writes for others. I stand by what I believe. When I write, I did not write for others. I just wanted to share what I thought. Please do not think that I wrote about everybody else but myself. I am definitely part of it, and I accept it sincerely.
Thanks to Swapna, Raju and 'Blue Screen..' for expressing your thoughts.
If change starts within, the whole world turns to it. - GB Shaw.
Posted by: Mr. Phoenix At: 19, Sep 2004 10:38:50 PM IST
What ever it is and who ever it is any comment on a citizen first applicable to the one who makes it.
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 18, Sep 2004 10:11:22 PM IST
i think i dont agree with u completely on ur point.remember its the people who make the nation and its not the nation sculpturing the masses.i hope it is pretty clear.
Posted by: Miss samyukta konkay At: 17, Sep 2004 5:48:38 PM IST
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