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Sri Rangarao garu, None of the persons whom you are calling as 'Sole Title Holders' of this website is personally against you, I am sure. You can definitely usurp the minds of all readers (these critics included), by writing good poetry. As I already mentioned, most of us have not seen each other face to face. Hence I do not think anybody gains anything personally by beliittling your efforts. Please be convinced to this extent. After all, most of these critics have sound knowledge on things which they are commenting. You need not think that they are criticising you just for criticism's sake. oppu tapparayu rasajNjulu, ooha teliyaMgala lEkhaka paaThakOttamul`' lEkuMDaa maMchi kavitalu elaa vastaayi -- nilustaayi? Even the word 'paashaMda' is not a charitable one! Please do not underestimate the present generation critics too. After all, 'The quality of a pudding lies in its eating.' Please take the criticism positively and give the readers an opportunity of learning some interesting things out of your rich experience.

Posted by: SATYA RAMA PRASAD KALLURI At: 14, Sep 2005 8:12:14 PM IST

ADIEU SCHOLARS. I REALISE THAT YOU ARE THE SOLE TITLE HOLDERS OF THIS WEBSITE AND NO NOVICE, INCLUDING ME, CAN VENTURE TO USURP YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS. DESPITE MY APLOGIES FOR THE PRINTER'S DEVIL (PA-SHANDA), THE LEGAL HEAD OF THIS SITE COULD SUCCESSFULLY POLLUTE THE BRAINS OF HIS FOLLOWERS THAT THEY ARE ADDRESSED AS SHANDAS. I AGAIN HUMBLY SUBMIT THAT MY ARTICLES WERE NOT AIMED AT ANY LEARNED GENTLEMEN. WHETHER BEILEVED OR NOT. WITH LOVE.

Posted by: Mr. Ranga Rao P. At: 14, Sep 2005 6:55:09 PM IST

Mr. Kiran, i really pity ur way of expressing urself. itz so pathetic & full of stupidity. My sincere advise to all those, who consider the great souls like Adi Sankara as just mere mortal poets, is to stop spreading this false assumption. Do not confine them to a poet's status.they r much above that. No wordly phrase or title suits them.thats where exactly i am getting irritated when ramayana & mahabharata r being called as poetic works.u hv ventured into this to champion Mr. Peyyett's poem but the sorry state is that u hv choosen a wrong poem & at a wrong time.in ur sainthood there hidden arrogance which has come by damn ignorance.if u don't know the real meaning of samskara say it so.why do u add lines like 'If I don't know the real meaning of it, still no problem'.what shud this be called ? 'yada kinchid ' or 'kinchid aj~nAnam '.u hv told that i am running behind few words & trying to humiliate ppl.ok can u explain me the great philosophical meaning of 'kinchid' ? i know that u don't know, so let me explain: ka: chit = kinchit , where ka:means brahma & chit means parabrahma.that means the Lord Superior dwells in Lord Brahma who is the creator of this earth. Let me also explain what aj~nAnam means in philosophical terms. a iti vAsudEva. yasya vAsudEvasya j~nAnam an~nAnam .he who knows the knowledge of Lord Srihari is also called as aj~nAni.now combine the words kinchit aj~nAnam . it means the knowledge of Vishnu rests in Lord Brahma as the Lord Superior himself rests him.if i share this piece of info with u all, is it my ignorance ? god bless u dear

Posted by: Mr. Vastav Alok At: 14, Sep 2005 12:22:54 PM IST

'vipula' in the quoted context should mean 'broad', 'expanded', 'wide', 'unlimited' etc. We cannot confine it to 'big' alone. Again, this is not to teach anybody. Regarding Sankaraachaarya's stotras, I too consider them as a very good poetry, because of the combination of the 'Sabdadhaara' on one hand and 'in-depth introspection' on the other. There may be some persons who may not consider it as poetry. That is their way of looking at things. Besides, the 'adwaiti' Sankara dominated the 'poet' Sankara. Coming to the present poem, it looks as if it is a continuation of the same poet's earlier (very recent) poem, though he may not accept the same. I do not think these two poems are 'mutually exclusive', viz. there must be a 'cause & effect' type relationship between these two poems. That should have prompted many persons to vent out their feelings profusely. In the earlier poem, the subject poet called the critics as 'pungavas' (bulls), of course in a respectable manner (pungava' is a 'SrEshThavaachaka' as many know). Suddenly he made a volte face and in the very next poem, these critics have become '(paa)shaMDas'! This is the bone of contention. Any way, I personally feel it would be better if we put an end to this discussion.

Posted by: SATYA RAMA PRASAD KALLURI At: 14, Sep 2005 2:14:05 AM IST

kallUrigAranna mATallO yentO viluvundi. 'yEnDlu mIrinavADA vRuddhuDu' anna mitralAbham mATendukO gurtukochchindi. ainA mathAjI gAriki javAbivvakanDa pOtE bAgunDadu.anchAta varikOsam I kindidantAnU //First thing, it is not my aim to criticise you. I wanted to post my response to the poem. I did it. Then I got into this discussion. If the writer is taking so much of pain just to criticise you and others indirectly, I pity him. If I were in his position I would directly say what I want to say. I will leave the matter between you both.// mIru nannu kriTisaij cheyyalEdA ? mari ivEmiTi ? mIru peyyETi gAripai chUpistunna jAli ippuDu nEnu mI pai chUpinchAli. *** //One thing I don't understand. The writer seems to take the side of classical poetry. You seem to be very knowledgeable in the same. I don't know how you both got into such bitter feelings.// konni samskRuta padAlanu vEsinanta mAtrAna, sandhya vArchaDamlO muriki nILLanu vADAnanaDam vagairA vagairA klAsikal poyeTrInA ? bAgundanDI. mari Adi sUkara vEdavEdyuDu anTU samskRuta padAlni danchADugadA SrISrI adi gUDA klAsikal poyeTrIyEnA ? peyyETi gArokkarE gAdu illAnTi abhAsu kavitalni mApaina rAsindi.kommulu tirigina peddOLLE rAsAru.adantA kaDupumanTa. siddhAtAnni siddhAntamtO yedurkOlEni kALLu tElipoyE rakapu rachanalivannI. *** //I never meant to say that you are ignorant. Probably I did not convey better. If somebody says my poetry is 'Pichi Kavita' I don't care. It is my anguish and I expressed it. Yes there are big theories about poetry and literature: both modern and classical. I don't care about them. I have feelings. Sometimes I put them in writing. I call some of them poems, some of them just writings.// “For an onlooker who does not care about this quest, it sounds hollow. And his/her judgement will be exactly like that of Sri Vastav Alok. Poetry is an expression of some anguish. If we can not empathize with it, better keep silent as Bhartrihari himself suggested 'Vibhooshanam mounam apanditaanaam'. Otherwise we will be telling everybody of our own ignorance.” “Your judgement about Bhartrihari is great. If you want to tell me or anybody that I/they don't know anything, you should probably take that sloka of Bhartrihari and repeat it like a mantra for many years. “you are set on a 'fundamentalist' mission.” nannu aj~nAni anaDam gAdA pai mATalu. ivi mIru rAsinavE gAdA ? prapanchamlO andarU filing&snE kavitalugA rAstAru. nyUsu pEparlanu, charitra pustakAlni kavita ani evvaDu anaDu. HisTarInI yevvaDU feelayyi rAyaDu. mI konni kavitalni mIru kavitalu gAvu ani tIrmAninchukODam mechchukOdagga vishayam. *** //When I read others' works I look at them the same way. Just feelings. I read some works of Kalidasa, Bhavabhuti, Jayadeva, Maagha, Adi shankara, Viswanadha etc. All classics. Ramayana and Mahabharata included. I am deeply touched by their way of expression, Samskara, philosophy, perception of the world etc. I don't care about the prosody and rules. // inkokari kavitallO fIling&s matramE jUstArA? bAgundi. mari iTlAnTi panikimAlina tiTTlallO vunna fIlingEnTO konchem cheppanDi. sarE mIku dIni venakAtali charitra telIdani oppukonTA. rAsinavALLakainA konchem burrannadi panijeyyAla voddA ? nEnenTi ? rAstunna vishayamEviTi ? idi saraina tIrEnA ? anna vivEchanoddU ? aDigina simpul praSnalaku samAdhAnAlivvakapOgA illAnTi vikArAmA ? ippaTidAkA ikkaDi panDitulu rAmAyaNa bhAratAlanu kAvyAlannAru ippuDu mIrochchi Adi SankaruDini kavula chiTTAlO vEsAru. idO goppa viplavam . allAgE konasAginchanDi. Can u please let me know the real meaning of samskAra ? *** //I occassionally read the poems of TP. Very few I respond to. Just for a timepass. I don't understand what is wrong in the feelings of this writer in these poems. If he aimed to attack you personally I only pity him. Did I like the poetry? No. Did I like the feeling? Yes. I related the feeling to Bhartrihari and some other poetry I read before. Now you guys can carry on with your arguments.// TP kavitalu Taim pAs kavitalani tIrmAninchAru. santOsham . mIru kavitalakistunna viluva gUDA mechchukOdaggadi. illAnTi pAThakulunDabaTTi peyyETi gAru kAvyakanyakanu kulikinchi, vaNikinchi shanDula vaddakku pamputunnAru. talachukonTEnE chirrettukostOndi. intajEsi maLLI adE pAta pATA “fIlingu” anTU. illAnTi vATillOni pachchi fIlingsuni finAyiltO kAdu nippultO kaDagAla. //You may say poetry is objective. I don't agree personally. If the whole world thinks that way, I don't care. Bhavabhuti said: vipulaa cha prudhvi. The world is too big. There will be somebody somewhere who thinks like me.// who cares if u don’t care of world? this is totally ridiculous to hear such statement from u. tell me what is the real meaning of vipula ? is it just BIG ? then what the below line mean ? vipula tattvamu vistarinchina vimalatalamide chellelA anTE peddadaina tattvamu vistarinchivunna bhUmi yanA? //Best of luck, guys, in your debate. But it would be helpful if you keep posting what you know, instead of trying to attack somebody. It would enlighten some people.// Why don’t u advise this Peyyeti who seems to be unemployed now & has got plenty of time to write such ridiculous stuff.

Posted by: Mr. Vastav Alok At: 13, Sep 2005 10:02:48 PM IST

Edi Emeinaa ee kavi vraasina SabdaM - 'shaMDa' annadi 'sarasameinadi' kaadu. (aataruvaata 'kaadu kaadu - adi 'paashaMDa' annaaru. adee chaalaa kaTuveina maaTE.) aayana iTlaaMTi maaTalanu prayOgiMchaDaM samaMjasaM kaadu. ikkaDa unnavaaLLaM evaramoo Teepee.kaaM dwaaraa tappa 'mukha' parichayaM unnavaaLLaM kaamu. kaabaTTi E vimarSanoo vyaktigatadooshaNagaa bhaaviMchanakkaralEdu. kavitwaM vishayamei EkaabhipraayaM eppuDoo uMDadu. iMtakumuMdu nEnu oka 'kavita'nu vraastE daanini koMdaru baagaalEdannaaru. koddigaa uDukumOtutanaM vachchi, 'kavitwaaniki nibaMdhanalEmiTi? naaku tOchina, chEtaneina paddhatilO vraasukOvaDaMlO tappEmiTi?' ani aDigaanugaanee, aa taruvaata naakE anipiMchiMdi - 'marikoMta kluptaMgaanoo, takkuva praasalatOnoo vraastE baaguMDEdEmO?- ani. aa mEraku vimarSakula abhipraayaalu koMta 'vEganirOdhakaalu'gaa upayOgapaDataayanaDaMlO anumaanaMEmee lEdu. ippaTikee naa vyaktigata abhipraayaM EmiTaMTE kavitwaaniki manaM ekkuvagaa lakshaNaalanu nirNayistE adi maree 'SaastrOktaM' ayipOvachchunu -ani. adEM viMtOgaanee, aavESaM vastEnE vraayaalanipistuMdi. daaMTlO dookuDu uMDakaa tappadu! pedda kavulu kooDaa okkokkasaari pElavameina kavitalanu vraastoo uMTaaru. chivariki 'baagaa teeSaamanukunna sinimaa' bOltaa paDaDaMlaaga kooDaa kaavachchu! vyaktigatameina SlEshalanu, vyaktigatameina ettipoDupulanu kavitwaalalOnoo, vimarSalalOnoo choppiMchavaddani aMdarikee chebutunnaanu. evarikee abhyaMtaraM uMDadu kadaa!

Posted by: SATYA RAMA PRASAD KALLURI At: 13, Sep 2005 8:20:18 PM IST

hammayya ippuDarthavaindi mIrEm cheputunnArO. inta chinna vishayAniki anta chuTTu tiruguDenduku sAr . mundaranE cheppAnugA I kavita ayim jEsindE vimarSakulanani. peyyETigAridE inkO kavita 'AndhrapAThakavimarsakEndralOkEbhyOnamaha' chadivArA? andulO AndhruDu (I saiTulO oka membar ), pAThakuDu (bAbAy anTu yEvEvO rAstunTADu), vimarSakuDu (I saiTulO kavitvam tappa marO prapancham telIni vyakti), indra (pAThakuDiki sarijODu), lOka (anTE nEnu).idi parsanal aTAk kAdA ? Ayana allA mA pErlanu lAkkochchi pichchi kavita rAsinA vUrukonnAnu.aitE idEnTi? pichchi mudirindi rOkali talaki chuTTamannaTTu, nErugA kAvyAnikE yesaru peTTE prayatnam ?ippuDarthavaindA mIku Ayana 'shanDa' prayOgam evari pai jEsArO ? mimmalnanTE vUrukonTArEmOgAnI nEnalA gAdE.anavasarangA anTE voka chUpu chUsE varaku vadalnu. nA vokkokka kAmenTku mIru paDikaTTu samAdhAnAlE cheputunnAru. yevari anDar sTanDig vaLLadainappuDu iha I prapanchamlO migilindEviTi ? modaTa nannu tappupaTTAru. dAnni prUv cheyyalEka manamandaram aj~nAnulannAru. idekkaDi viDDUram ? evarishTamochchinaTTu vALLu rAsEdi kavitvamaitE iha lakshaNa SAstram , Chandassu, vyAkaraNAlannI chaTTubanDalainaTTE. poyeTrI sabjekT kAdu AbjekT .dRushTilOpamundiganakanE chAlAmandi sabjekTiv thiyarIni paTTukoni kavitvAnni murikkAluva pAlujEstunnAru. gulAbI pai kavita rAstE adi sabjekTA AbjekTA ? dESam pai kavita rAstE adi sabjekTA AbjekTA ?anchAta kavitvam pai lEnipOni siddhAntAloddu.kavitvamannadi voka spashTamaina vishayam andulO AmbigviTiki ellAnTi AskAram lEdu.

Posted by: Mr. Vastav Alok At: 13, Sep 2005 7:17:16 PM IST

ayyA mI vAdanalO pasalEdani cheppaDAniki chintistunnA.yendukanTE modaTa mIru nAlO tappulu paTTEndukochchAru. nO prAblam . gAnI nannu aj~nAni ani tIrmAninchAru. disIj da prAblam .bhartRuharini kOT jEsi goppa TrUt sIkarannAru.nO prAblam .gangAnadi vishayamlO klAsikal misTEk jEsinaTTu nE chepitE 'yuvar anDar sTAnDing Ij grET 'annAru. nO prAblam . nA vAdanalO lOpamEnTO cheppanDi anTE 'ai nevar seD U Ar rAng .'annAru.disIj da prAblam .kAvyAnikI, itihAsAnikI tEDA telIkapOtE vochchina nashTam lEdannAru. nO prAblam . gAnI I kavitanu mAtram vimarSinchakUDadanTU yEvO konni rUls peDtunnAru. daTIj da prAblam .intaku mundannaTTugAnE mIlO mIkE dwaidIbhAvamundi.modaTa dAnni pariharinchukOnDi.akkaDekkaDO vonTarigA chAT chEsEdAnikannA ikkaDa tIrubaDigA mATlADadAm telugupIpul DAT kAm ichchina avakASAnni bAga vupayOginchukOvachchu. enI prAblam ?

Posted by: Mr. Vastav Alok At: 13, Sep 2005 6:17:49 PM IST

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