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| Hello Balaji,
I totally agree with you but it looks that you are just carried away.
As you said-"After gaining tremendous knowledge here they are flying abroad for serving other nations like U.S.A and making them more and more developed. why can't they serve our mother land"
Practically speaking ,they should equal oppurtunities in India to exhibit our talent.
I advice you to think practically.
Thanks,
Posted by: Mr. chaitanya Kuttanoor At: 17, Sep 2002 10:17:35 PM IST Dear Mr.Balaji,
What you have expressed is absolutely right. But our bureautic system is not allowing the talented brains to work in India. They may not get wages what they are getting outside India. Our bureautic system may not allow to lead their life peacefully by demanding more salary cuts like taxes. They may not have the luxurious life here what they are having there. That's why talented brains wish to fly other countries.
Posted by: Mr. venkata ramana chitikela At: 14, Sep 2002 8:34:04 PM IST Mr. Balaji Kati,
If somethings have to change, the change must occur in individual. The desire to make India a better country has to be felt by every individual. There is a saying, 'look into your own courtyard before saying the other's courtyard is dirty'.
You got my intention thorughly wrong in my two postings.
I will make clear myself.
Its not wrong to look forward to the NRI community for help. I am not against it.
But being in India, question oneself what he/she has done to improve situations. Put in your efforts before you seek someone else's help. Similary, the NRIs should also contribute to the country. And contribution may mean in ANY form.
I hope you see my point.
regards
Pavan
Posted by: Pavan At: 10, Sep 2002 5:29:26 PM IST NOTE: THESE COMENTS ARE NOT AT ALL A PERSONEL COMENTS.THESE ARE MEANT FOR EVERY CITIZEN OF INDIA
Dear friends,
I thank everybody for your frank coments. Some of u have well understood what i exactly mean. And some of you put the problems to face if u come back. so it clear that they r ready to help india if conditions are favourable. Thanks for that.
And still some are there who stick to their own views. Actually i didn't mean that we should not go to abroad, but i said to come back to serve our motherland. Do u know ther reason why i perticulary mentioned about NRIs? I have the following reasons.
1.since they r far away from inida i thout that they will be having a sort of love and affection towards their motherland.(but some NRIs proved that my guess is wrong).
2.And the important factor is that 99% NRIs are well educated and wise, that's why i thought that they can understand what i says. Just imagine how can one inspire the people in india where the literacy rate is below 50% and that too dominated by politics and corruptions almost in all the fields.
I have read all the coments and here are my answers to almost all questions.
AND HERE I AM MAKING ONE POINT CLEAR THAT I AM NOT SIMPLY ABUSING OTHER'S IDEAS BUT I AM WRITING THE FACTS. so request u all to think how much truth is there in my statements.
1. Ms.Lakshmi prasanthi mentiond 2 points. one is that the people r not getting oppurtunities to expose their talents. I agree with this statement. But its not 100% valid reason for all going to abroad. secondly she pointed kalpana chawla and her achievement. Actually i don't have good idea about her and so i don't know what she has done to india.(please any one tell me her contribution for india's development in the field of space) . So i have one example for the above 2 statements. i.e our president Mr.Abdul Kalam. How did he expose his talents in India? and if he also had gone to abroad in search of latest scientific knowledge, could india be at this position in the field of nuclear power? So here it is VERY CLEARLY SEEN THE NATURE OF ESCAPISM OF INDIANS.
2. Mr.Ramana Rao stated that our economy is strenthening by foreign exchanges.I agree that because it is a fact. But my question is upto what extent is it true? and why the rupee is still declining day by day constanly? so i say that there is no collective effort in that. serving india
means not just giving ur part and sitting calmly saying that i have done my job, but it need to join all the people.
And also he stated that india is not becoming a super power due to factors like kularajakiyam, matarajakiyam, politics and corruptions in almost all the fields. Yes it is 100% true. By knowing all the facts, as a responsible citizen of india did he atleast made any attempt to overcome the problem. Atleast did he suggent anything to anyother. See here i am not talking about him only. like this there r a lot of people who knows all the facts but not ready to come forward to correct the faults. LET SOMEONE COME AND DO SOMETHING. This is the motto of almost all indians.
3. And Mrs.Madhavi latha made 2 contradictory statements.one is that "where are the jobs for us in india" and following that she told that "they r helping others to get job by flying to abroad". how can this will be possible. one way she is telling that there r no jobs and on the otherhand she she is telling that they are helping others by leaving some vacancy here.
4. Mrs.Padmaja sandeep pointed put her personal experience that her husband had his master degree in IIT Bombay and didn't get a properbreak. Is this means that all the graduates who had finished their graduation after her husband (she did mention the year so let us take atleast 2 yrs back) didn't get good jobs in india? For your kind information the campus placements in IITs had decreased only after sep 11 attacks(just 1 yr back). even now its not that much bad. so how far is this statement accepatable?
5. Mr.Narayanamurthy stated that one has no right to question others. yes i agree with this if the conditions are normal. This question of you and me arises only when one think selfishly. isn't it? If his own family member unknowingly is doing any wrong
will he sit quitely with out pointing that? no becuase it is his family and he is just living for his family. So here is my doubt, aren't we belong to one family of india? don't we have minimum responsibility to correct the mistakes? And also he made a point that "if any body who returned to help india have seen such coments, will it
ever let him go ahead? yes he should do it .
If at all he is really interested in serving india why should he bother about those coments?
6. Mr.Pavan stated that NRIs are earning and indians (in india) too earning
money but what is their contribution to india. Its a great question. Mr. pavan just compare the standard of liing of an average indian and an NRI. who are in a position to help india? more over as i asked NRIs to extend some help , he is asking that what the indians in india are doing? Its sounds for me like "as the other person is not helping, why should i help india?" what an average thinking of an indian!
7. Mr.Harikrishna stated that "if at all sabir bhatia had not been to U.S.A had he developed hotmail site which we r enjoying". First of all i didn't understand who r enjoying by using hotmail site. If not that there r lot of other sites. But tell me Mr.Harikrishna whether that site had strengthened our economy to a great extent? or had it decrease our poverty? or had it solved the kashmir problem? tell me what is the advantage that india got by devoloping hotmail website? And he also pointed that our great land of wisdom never felt the scancity for qualified people.Yes Mr.Harikrishna i agree that and thanks for your respect towards the co-citizens of india. But did you ever think that THIS GREAT LAND OF WISDOM IS ALWAYS LACKING THE SUPPORT, HONESTY AND SINCERITY OF ITS OWN PEOPLE. So who will provide these required qualities to LAND OF WISDOM? Americans? Europeans? Africans? Australians? who ?
that is every citizen of india. isn't it?
now tell me are we providing those qualities to india?
so friends. I here i have given examples for almost all the comments.
Before commenting this just think how much truth is there in my statements. I don't mean to oppose all ur views becuase there some facts in your statements. And my aim of giving examples is not to support my statement but to make you know one FACT.
THE FACT IS THAT WHEN EVER SOMETHING IS BROUGHT FOR DISCUSSION IN INDIA. ALL THE PEOPLE WILL START GIVING THEIR OWN EXAMPLES SUPPORTING THEIR VIEWS AND THEY WILL GO ON ARGUING AND LEAVES THE MATTER UNSOLVED. ISN'T IT?
If i show you a white paper making a small black mark some where on it and if i ask you what did see on it? what will be your answer? 99% will give the answer as a black mark where as hardly one gives the asnwer as white paper. what does it mean? It is the general tendency of human beings(espicially indians) to point the negative aspects of any issue. won't you accept this?
so my dear brothers and sisters, please try to change your way of thinking. In the whole universe there is nothing pure good nor pure bad. Every thing is a mixture of good and bad things so try to pick the positive things in what ever issue you come across.
please give ur big hand to help this declining india and make it the best place to live for the future citizens.
with regards
Balaji.
Posted by: Mr. balaji kati At: 8, Sep 2002 1:09:59 PM IST correction: Pl read 'Crane' for 'Triveni' or take the spirit of the expression.
Posted by: Mr. Kumara Swamy Vullaganti At: 6, Sep 2002 4:21:09 PM IST Dear Balaji & friends,
Nice to know that the indian youth is 'thinking' to do something.
Thoughts are the seeds of action. The problem with most of the indians is that most of us do not have a vision either for our own lives or for the nation.(I am a faculty training the communications engineers and in the recent years i am asking every participant "what is your plan for the rest of your life ? or what is your desire yet to be fulfilled" . In most cases i get 'not decided' / 'a peaceful life')
As some of our pals pointed out, "What the Indian indians r doing for india ?" It is not the problem with the NRIs or the Govt. It is in part with that of our education. For becoming an engineer u have solved a number of problems with sin, cos and other formulas in MPC. Do u think they will be ever useful in ur life either for u or for the nation ? 16 years of edu. does not focus on the problems of the nation. Then how can we expect the products of such edu to do some thing for the nation. The more one is educated the more one is becoming useless to the nation. (after SSC leave vill, inter .. leave the dist., after engg. leave the country..as u r not useful to India.) "for this degree.. no openings in india" Why at the first place pursued an education not useful to india ? What will these 50,000 engineers per year do in AP? "upayam leni vaarini uoollo ninchi vella gotta mannaru" On that basis only i came to the city. but now i am going back. It is time to return to our villages where only the edu.failures(in many cases) were leftout. Let us use our talent and edu., if at all it is useful for the development of the villages. Let us not hurt the poor NRIs, who left the mother land , while even less-educated or making millions here ( Sri.G.Pullareddy-sweets, Badam Ramaswamy-builder, Triveni nutpower owner, Nirma seth, Pan masala walas..) It is not education that matters, what matters is whether we or our ideas/products r useful to the people.
Best wishes
Kumar
Posted by: Mr. Kumara Swamy Vullaganti At: 5, Sep 2002 4:42:24 PM IST Hanuma garu,
'Indians r earning themselves at the cost of contributing some thing towards an organisation in India...so by living in India he is spending all his money in India..by paying taxes r watever may be...so he is contributing a lot i think compared to NRI' -- how?
Logically speaking, on a per capita basis(not as a gross domestic product), the NRI earns more, spends more and saves more? What happens to most of these saving? They are infact, sent back to India. This money far exceeds the so called contributions and Indian overthere makes(on a per capita basis). So, an NRI is more economically viable than the average indian and on an individual basis contributes more to the economy.
'also lot of NRIs r in a feeling that by going abroad they r doing something to great their country'...Is this a reflection of your personal feelings and 'GREAT' in what sense?
Most people go abroad for money, yes ofcourse, I agree on that. Who does not want to be financially secure in a shorter time frame(this is relative, but I guess you can see what I mean).
I really dont understand what you intend to say, when you talk about the advances in space and defence technologies, full credit to the indian scientists. Every project needs funding. The cash is actually pumped in from the GDP(forgive me, If I am wrong, I am not an economist). Even if a fraction of the GDP comes from the NRI's, this does not make the contribution of the NRI any less.
Contributions need not assume mental contributions. They might even be financial contributions. Is there a means by which you can measure the contribution of a person to his country?
Coming to the spendings incurred by the various government/educational institutions, I guess, the NRIs more than make up for it over a period of time.
Statistics(percentages), one thing which people would always love to present/use to impress others.
How far are the statistics that you presented true? Is that a personal evaluation or backed up by a concrete survey etc. Statistics are only projections of a fraction of people either NRIs/Indians. They do not neccasarily reflect the facts.
Think of ways/try doing something practical rather than blaming fellow Indians (whether Indians or NRIs).
Posted by: Pavan At: 4, Sep 2002 7:25:46 PM IST its true my friend but no need to back ,
just they think about u r mother land
Posted by: Mr. Madhu Mandava At: 4, Sep 2002 3:57:18 PM IST Mr Harikrishna....
Even they do not return no need to worry because this great land of wisdom never felt the scacity for qualified people.
----Dont think like that hari ji. we have to worry...india is spending a lot on each n every person for education..if u take an iit graduate india is really spending atleast 20lakhs per annum on him...after doing all this also u r saying that no necessity of repaying ..its pretty poor on ur part..u dont think u r able to stay there for ever... u r staying there at the cost of ur freedom n if anything happened like sept 11 attacks means u have to come to india...u might have seen the sufferings of our sardarjis last time...then u want india to welcome u....its so bad man..try to change ur level of thinking..ok dont try to push on some other person see ur back first..
if u r not doing means ur son r some other fellow why he will do...by making the above statements u r showing ur escapism....
u r not showing a small respect to india ..so bad..
think abt it....
Posted by: Mr. Hanuma Kumar Oleti At: 4, Sep 2002 11:31:30 AM IST Pavan ji...
yes I agree with u...but Indians r earning themselves at the cost of contributing some thing towards an organisation in India...so by living in India he is spending all his money in India..by paying taxes r watever may be...so he is contributing a lot i think compared to NRI..also lot of NRIs r in a feeling that by going abroad they r doing something to great their country..I didnt see any substantial contribution towards India...also I didnt say dont goto US..u go there learn advanced technologies n try to implement and make the ppl india to improve their technological aspects...if u make a try that will be a great contribution towards India....but i can say with 100% sure that almost all the ppl going abroad r going for earning only..may be there will be some 10-20% exceptional cases will be there. no one is waiting for an NRI to do something in india...thats why we r able to develop indeginously the missile n space technology..thats possible becoz of the contribution of scientists in India..but not bcoz of the NRIs working in NASA..
If the people working in top positions in NASA r able to contribute atleast a small amount in India out missile r space r atomic r rocket technologies might have improved a lot..
so eventhough it seems the ppl in india not contributing towards india...they r contributing by atleast spending their money in India...also bcoz of the Indian scientist only the indegenious technoly development was possible...
so Please try to apply ur brain also in India u just dont go for alluring dollors r some other things abroad...this comment iam making for the creamy ppl of india living abroad....they have to really apply something in India...
Posted by: Mr. Hanuma Kumar Oleti At: 4, Sep 2002 11:19:42 AM IST
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