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Dear all, IT appears to be amazing, but the truth is that there appears to be so many similarities existing between the Telangana and Indian Independance movement. Here are few........ Telangana movement first started againist the imperialistic policies and resource exploitation by the other region people. Where as independance movement started to get rid of the british imperialistic policies. Britishers are used to import our raw materials and they finish with their machines, and used to sell back to India, with this exploitative british policy so many traditional small industries were closed. Similarly andhraites are using our coal, land and water as the inputs for their industries moreover they ruined traditional sugar, jute mill and silk industries in our region. Britishers are easily identifiable with their colour and language but these people are difficult to distiniguish, they may be behind you but you cant recognise. I dont want to mention the statistics here. What happened to our traditional co-operative educational system, why it is plundered by the corporate schools and colleges? I dont want to mention the health system, goverment hospitals like Gandhi, Osmania and so many others shrinked from the glorious past. In the 1754 French and Britishers approached Indian kings in the name of trade. On the name of the language (Vishalandhra) andhra people merged with resource rich hyderabad state in 1956. With lot of suspicion nawab allowed the britishers, the same thing happened with telangana leadership in 1956. Nawabs has put some conditions for the trade in the form of dasthaks, where we entered in to conditional (Gentelemans) agreement in 1956. Slowly britishers made nawab as the puppet here also andhra CMs made telangana ministers as their puppets. By 1857 people are realised british imperialistic policies and they fought, first war of independance with out proper planning and coordination. The same thing was reported in 1969 in telangana movement. More than 400 martyrs were killed brutally in police firings. In both of the above wars and movements were seviourly suprressed by the rulers. Indpendance movement has also got the various breaks and phases, similarly telangana movement also. Few intellectuals, writers, singers have played their own role with out any self interest. Similarly Telangana intellectuals also kept the issue alive in the peoples mind. As Bankim chandra, Rabindra, Tilak has given the songs and slogans. Gaddar, Goreti venkanna, Andhesri, and so many atrists with their songs filled the spirit of Telangana in to the souls of common telnganite. In the independance movement there are so many organisation actively worked in and out side of India.... Gadar party of USA, East Indian association in London, Madam Bhikaji Party in Germany, Anushilansamithi- bengal, Hindusthan socialistic republic army by azad, INA by bose...... similarly we have TDF USA, TVV Hyderabad, Telangana Utsav committee, TNGO, Telangana Teachers Union and so on. Slowly our fight evolved non-violence form from violent agitation as it was in 1969. Joining of the congress in to the british framed constitutional process by forming the govts in 1937 can be compared as TRS joining the govt in 2004. By 1939 congress realised actual colour of Britishers as TRS realised in 2006. So let us hope that movement entered in to the last phase as in 1942. Instead of quit India we should raise a slogan of quit Telangana. Quit telangana means quit from economical, political, social and cultural oppression of the other region exploiters. Finally we are not againist to common andhra man who runs tea stall or a hotel at the same time we are againist to corporate exploiters like Chaitnya, Naryana and so on. Jai Telangana, Ramesh, Rome, Italy Jai telangana Talli, Ravi Reddy Ravvuri

Posted by: Mr. ravi reddy ravuri At: 19, Nov 2007 9:33:19 AM IST

Eee *Ravi reddy ravvuri* gadu pagal gadi lekkunnadu. Oray Ravuri na modda, i am also a Telangana man but i hate KCR and his gang (now, includs you) One thing is very clear here, who ever supports KCR kind of man they are also pakka waste badacows like Ravi reddy Ravvuri. Maama Ravuri, how can you support Rama Rao ?????????????????? he is one more Jr.KCR... We may need Telangana (or not) but KCR is biggest shame of Telangana, he is not the right person to get what T people want. he gets want he really want by this issue (Money). every one in this discussion, look at this tale (ravi reddy gadu) of KCR and his family, *** 99% of political leadership and elite people in the country are supporting seperate T- state formation *** these numbers are from your KCR computer not from real people how much paid for all this wrong news????? Pagal na modda... vai mudu

Posted by: Mr. Seetha Ram Reddy P At: 19, Nov 2007 6:15:43 AM IST

You stupid, Ramarao doesn't need to reply stupids like u. The professor name is Anrundhathi ghosh JNU, I dont need to disclose u. U maynot heard this name she was the chairman of the committee which studies the farmers suicides in AP. 99% of political leadership and elite people in the country are supporting seperate T- state formation. Recently Mr.Chidmbaram Union Finance minister expressed his personal supoort for T- state and he promised when the matter comes in to cabinet meeting he promised his full support. Other prominent elite people in the country who support seperate T- state is given below.. P. Sai Nath (from andhra), Pothhuri Venketswarrao(from andhra), Prof K.S. Chalam (UPSC member from andhra),Balgopal,Mahesh Bhatt, Shabana Azmi, Rajendra singh (water man of India), vandana Shiva, Sundarlal Bahuguna, Sandeep pandey, Shantha Sinha and the list goes on. First u know why we are asking T- state dont be panic with out any reasons. Please be cool, don't be emotional. We can understand ur feelings, it's slap on andhra's hegemony. Again we are saying we are aginist to exploiters not to common andhra man. Do u think are u the exploiter? Jai Telangana, Ravi reddy Ravvuri

Posted by: Mr. ravi reddy ravuri At: 18, Nov 2007 10:41:52 PM IST

Mr.Ravuri (are you the RAMA RAO... a stupid son of KCR???), BIGGEST Joke is... ''' A Delhi Pros praised KCR a lot.. :) ''' Looks like you are a great follower of KCR, it’s really shame on YOU. Looks like you got lot knowledge on Telangana and looting... looters... 2nd SCR,,, 1sr KCR etc etc… I saw some people are discussing Telangana issue in this forum from other side of earth (USA). Before talking about the T issue, first you have to realize you are not in Telangana. Before talking about LOOTING, first you should not move from your Dist or you should not go out your village or out of your compound or out of your bedroom… Idiots… first of all in a some Families it self we have looters (KCR him-self kicked his 2nd Alludu long back, now he trying to kick his 1st Son in law to get him ass hole SON), in a village itself we have looters and Dist wide (like Dubai Shaker), State wide finally country wide. How long we waste our time pointing our F...King finger to others… I am really feeling sick on seeing Ravuri kind Telangana people who fallows KD.NO 1 (KCR); see his ‘Dubai Shaker’ background to ‘Bar-Darbar’ (it's not olny DRINKING but also sending NARENDRA kind of leader out of party with out reason and always want maintain one man DARBAR). I never seen he talking about the real issues of out local community, his main goal to get a money wending “POST”… If we get the Telangana, he will definitely start one more moment (If GADHAR takes main ROLE), separate Hyderabad and Nazism’s rule… because he always pointing to NAZAM’s greatness and his wealth etc… Before we discussing (for both Ravuri and Author Mallayya) on “3 Crores Megulu budget” during Meer Osman Ali Khan’s time… Check out the Telangana situation during his time frame, how people are looted by king, how they forcefully converted to Islam, how they raped & killed, no food, no shelter and actions of RAJAKAR’s… Finally the so called “MEGULU BUDGET” is for “Meer Osman” not for “People Of Telangana”. He bought a plain, he bought some imported cars and best horses from Pharshia, a Sugar Factory for his needs, a colony for Zick country labor (for gun factory) and finally a Building (Today’s assembly) to run all his bad rules on his people. Why we fought against that kind of government???? Before feeling great ourselves by showing a ‘Readymade Assembly Building’, ‘Nizam Sugar Factory’, ‘Osman sagar’, ‘Nizam Sagar’, ‘Air Port’, ‘Gun Factory’ and 6 other big building for this 28 wife’s… what else…. All of them are just for KING not for his People… So, tomorrow (if we get Telangana) our today’s ‘Abinava Nizam’ (KCR) also want’s all these comforts… with the help of his great soldiers like ‘Ravuri’ & ‘Mallayya’… Good Luck… GOD SAVE MY INDIA…. - Sryam

Posted by: Mr. Narayana Mruthi At: 18, Nov 2007 9:00:09 PM IST

As posted by Ramesh in idf-discuss Dear all, IT appears to be amazing, but the truth is that there appears to be so many similarities existing between the Telangana and Indian Independance movement. Here are few........ Telangana movement first started againist the imperialistic policies and resource exploitation by the other region people. Where as independance movement started to get rid of the british imperialistic policies. Britishers are used to import our raw materials and they finish with their machines, and used to sell back to India, with this exploitative british policy so many traditional small industries were closed. Similarly andhraites are using our coal, land and water as the inputs for their industries moreover they ruined traditional sugar, jute mill and silk industries in our region. Britishers are easily identifiable with their colour and language but these people are difficult to distiniguish, they may be behind you but you cant recognise. I dont want to mention the statistics here. What happened to our traditional co-operative educational system, why it is plundered by the corporate schools and colleges? I dont want to mention the health system, goverment hospitals like Gandhi, Osmania and so many others shrinked from the glorious past. In the 1754 French and Britishers approached Indian kings in the name of trade. On the name of the language (Vishalandhra) andhra people merged with resource rich hyderabad state in 1956. With lot of suspicion nawab allowed the britishers, the same thing happened with telangana leadership in 1956. Nawabs has put some conditions for the trade in the form of dasthaks, where we entered in to conditional (Gentelemans) agreement in 1956. Slowly britishers made nawab as the puppet here also andhra CMs made telangana ministers as their puppets. By 1857 people are realised british imperialistic policies and they fought, first war of independance with out proper planning and coordination. The same thing was reported in 1969 in telangana movement. More than 400 martyrs were killed brutally in police firings. In both of the above wars and movements were seviourly suprressed by the rulers. Indpendance movement has also got the various breaks and phases, similarly telangana movement also. Few intellectuals, writers, singers have played their own role with out any self interest. Similarly Telangana intellectuals also kept the issue alive in the peoples mind. As Bankim chandra, Rabindra, Tilak has given the songs and slogans. Gaddar, Goreti venkanna, Andhesri, and so many atrists with their songs filled the spirit of Telangana in to the souls of common telnganite. In the independance movement there are so many organisation actively worked in and out side of India.... Gadar party of USA, East Indian association in London, Madam Bhikaji Party in Germany, Anushilansamithi- bengal, Hindusthan socialistic republic army by azad, INA by bose...... similarly we have TDF USA, TVV Hyderabad, Telangana Utsav committee, TNGO, Telangana Teachers Union and so on. Slowly our fight evolved non-violence form from violent agitation as it was in 1969. Joining of the congress in to the british framed constitutional process by forming the govts in 1937 can be compared as TRS joining the govt in 2004. By 1939 congress realised actual colour of Britishers as TRS realised in 2006. So let us hope that movement entered in to the last phase as in 1942. Instead of quit India we should raise a slogan of quit Telangana. Quit telangana means quit from economical, political, social and cultural oppression of the other region exploiters. Finally we are not againist to common andhra man who runs tea stall or a hotel at the same time we are againist to corporate exploiters like Chaitnya, Naryana and so on. Jai Telangana, Ramesh, Rome, Italy Jai telangana Talli, Ravi Reddy Ravvuri

Posted by: Mr. ravi reddy ravuri At: 18, Nov 2007 8:40:33 PM IST

As written by Ramesh in tdf-discuss Dear all, I will give 1001 reasons why KCR called as visionary and strategic politician. He is the person who is running the movemnt peacefully for the past 7 years. Unlike 1969 movement leaders who have built their political careers on the life of 400 young martyrs. Recently students raised their emotions for some violent action but KCR resisted and he resisted them and said look your careers dont left education. Career should be your first concern. Unlike other politician he didn't urge them to take violent steps. Definately he will be a future misery for andhraites corporate education and health exploitative system. He is the only leader who brought the Telangana issue in to lime light , previously Indra reddy tried for it but he failed. Media is biggest enemy for us, delibarately mudsizling on our leadership. He is not like Chandra Babu who changes Telugu mahila leaders quite oftenly, first Nannapeneni Rajkumari,later Jayaprada now Roja. (In 1985 Nannapaneni Rajkumari and CBN were caught redhandedly in a govt guest house) I dont want say much about great YSR and his family .. he is a factinoist visionary and his son is a romantic visionary in Bangalore. Great Lanco Rajgopal is a keralite(call) girl visionary. Regarding KCR alchol drinking, in telangana 99% of leaders will buze, where as if u observe in US every americam citizen will have alchol every day. There is nothing wrong about it. Just because of him even TDP compelled to talk about Telangana. Jai Jai Telangana, Written by Ramesh In TDF-Discuss Jai Telangana Thalli, Ravi Reddy Ravvuri

Posted by: Mr. ravi reddy ravuri At: 18, Nov 2007 8:06:03 PM IST

Dear all, Please observe the SRC recommendations in 1956 how andhra leaders manipulated it. Andhra state formed with out any SRC recommendations. where as Lanco rajgopal is making illogical demand of second SRC. Below are the final conclusions of SRC in 1956. 386. After taking all these factors into consideration we have come to the conclusions that it will be in the interests of Andhra as well as Telangana area is to constitute into a separate State, which may be known as the Hyderabad State with provision for its unification with Andhra after the general elections likely to be held in or about 1961 if by a two thirds majority the legislature of the residency Hyderabad State expresses itself in favor of such unification. 389. The State of Hyderabad (as we would prefer to all this unit), to be constituted for the time being, should consist of the following districts,' namely, Mahabubnagar, Nalgonda, Warangal including Khammam, Karimhagar,Adilabad, Nizamabad, Hyderabad, Medak and Bidar and Munagaala enclave in Nalgonda district belonging to the.Krishna district of the existing Andhra State. There are so many things have happened still happening due to some of our traitors like Jeevan reddy, Ponnala, Chinnareddy and so on. Jai Jai Telangana, Ravi reddy ravvuri

Posted by: Mr. ravi reddy ravuri At: 18, Nov 2007 7:59:26 PM IST

Dear all, I am writing a reply with a hope that this will generate a good debate and a political philosophy!! I reiterate that 'KCR (along with his team) is a visionary and a strategic politician'. As any other leader, KCR was made as a very good leader by the follower! Most of the credit goes to the common man in Telangana. Not the NRIs please :)! Dear all, DON'T EVER THINK THAT TELANGANA MASSES ARE FOOLS! They might not have the knowledge & education that we (NRIs) have, BUT they got LOTS OF WISDOM and good PHILOSOPHY to pursue a HAPPY & DIGNIFIED life within the available resources. They very well know what is good for them. That's why Telangana people are making leaders like KCR in spite of their(leaders')short-comings. FOLLOWERS MAKE LEADERS! but not the other way. In last 6-7 yrs, Telangana People made KCR & team! It's a wonderful thing to happen in our mother-land. It will inspire many more followers and leaders in Politics, and help in building teams. It might change the way we work in Politics, Business, Society, and Family. Teams only can win! Team leaders can only have good Vision & Strategy!! Team members will implement it and ultimately accomplish the results!!! Be a good follower to become a good leader! (like a proverb 'be a good son to become a good father'). Let us build teams!! Remember Teams only WIN!!!!

Posted by: Mr. ravi reddy ravuri At: 18, Nov 2007 5:33:24 PM IST

Dear all, This is the First SRC report It states that Telangana should be a seperate state. The Case for Telangana 375. The case of Vishalandhra thus rests on arguments which are impressive. The considerations which have been argued in favour of a separate Telangana State are, however, not such as may be lightly brushed aside. 376. The existing Andhra State has faced a financial problem of some magnitude ever since it was crated and in comparison with Telangana the existing Andhra State has a low per capita revenue. Telangana, on the other hand, is much less likely to be faced with financial embarrassment. The much higher incidence of land revenue in Telangana and an excise revenue of the order of Rs.5 crores per annum principally explain this difference. Whatever the explanation may be, some Telangana leaders seem to fear that the result of unification will be to exchange some settled sources of revenue, out of which development schemes may be financed, for financial uncertainty similar to that which Andhra is now faced. Telangana claims to be progressive and from an administrative pint of view, unification it is contended is not likely to confer any benefits on this area. 377. When plans for future development are taken into account, Telangana fears that the claims of this area may not receive adequate consideration in Vishalandhra. The Nandikonda and Kushtapuram (Godavari) projects are, for example among the most important which Telangana or the country as a whole has undertaken. Irrigation in the coastal as of these two great rivers is however, also being planned, Telangana. Therefore, does not wish to lose its present independent rights in relation to the utilization of the waters of Krishna and Godavari. 378. One of the principal causes of opposition of Vishalandhra also seems to be the apprehension felt by the educationally backward people of Telangana that they may be swamped and exploited by the more advanced people of the coastal areas. In the Telangana districts outside the city of Hyderabad, education is woefully backward. The result is that a lower qualification than in Andhra is accepted for public services The real fear of the people of Telangana is that if they enjoy Andhra they will be unequally placed in relation to the people of Andhra and in this partnership the major partner will derive all the advantages immediately, while Telangana, itself may be converted into a colony by the enterprising coastal Andhra. 379. ' The Telangana' it has .further been argued, can be stable and viable, unit considered by itself. The revenue receipts of this area on current account have been estimated at about Rs. 17 crores, and although the financing of the Krishna and Godavari projects will impose a recurring burden on the new State by way of interest charges, the probable deficit, if any is unlikely to be large. In favorable conditions, the revenue budget may even be balanced or indicate a marginal surplus. This fairly optimistic forecast can be explained or justified by a variety of reasons. 380. One important reason is, of course, that the existing Hyderabad State and Telangana as part of Hyderabad have benefited considerably from the implementation from April 1952, of the Finance Commissions' recommendations. The increase in central payments from out of the divisible pools of income-tax and Central excise which has been possible under the present arrangements and the reduction in police expenditure for which credit can be taken., as the situation in Telangana improves, more or less offset the loss on account of the abolition of internal customs duties, and if the scope which exists of raising the yield of certain State heads of revenue is fully explored, the financial position of Telangana need not cause anxiety. The State of Hyderabad 381. The advantages of the formation of Vishalandhra are obvious. The desirability of bringing the Krishna and Godavari river basins under unified control, the trade affiliations between Telangana and Andhra and the suitability of Hyderabad as the capital for the entire region are in brief the arguments in favor of the bigger unit. 382. It seems to us, therefore, that there is much to be said for the formation of the larger State and the nothing should be done to impede the realisation of this goal. At the same time, we have to take note of the important fact that, while opinion in Andhra is overwhelmingly in favour of the larger unit, public opinion in Telangana has still to crystallize itself. Important leaders of public opinion in Andhra themselves seem to appreciate that the unification of Telangana with Andhra, though desirable, should be based on a voluntary and willing association of the people and that it is primarily for the people of Telangana to take a decision about their future. 383. We understand that the leaders of the existing Andhra State may be prepared to provide adequate safeguards to protect the interest of Telangana in the event of its integration in Vishalandhra. These safeguards may take the form of a guarantee (presumably on the lines of Sri Baug Pact between Rayalaseema and Coastal Andhra) of opportunities for employment for Telangana in the public services of the new State at least to the extent of one-third, that is to say, roughly in the proportion, and an assurance that particular attention will be paid to the development plans of this area. 384. We have carefully gone into the details of the arrangements which may be made on these lines. It seems to us, however, that neither guarantees on the lines of the Sri Baug Pact nor constitutional devices, such as 'Scottish devolution' in the United Kingdom, will provide workable or meet the requirements of Telangana during the period of transition. Anything short of supervision by the Central Government over the measures intended to meet the special needs of Telangana will be found ineffective, and we are not disposed to suggest any such arrangement in regard to Telangana. 385 A further point to be borne in mind is that the State of Andhra was brought into existence only recently and has still not got over the stress of transition. It has for example, still to formulate a policy on land reforms and the problems arising from the partition from the composite State of Madras have, by no means, been. Tackled fully yet. Integration of Telangana with Andhra at this stage is, therefore, likely to create administrative difficulties both for Andhra and Telangana. 386. After taking all these factors into consideration we have come to the conclusions that it will be in the interests of Andhra as well as Telangana area is to constitute into a separate State, which may be known as the Hyderabad State with provision for its unification with Andhra after the general elections likely to be held in or about 1961 if by a two thirds majority the legislature of the residency Hyderabad State expresses itself in favor of such unification. 387. The advantage of this arrangement will be that while the objective of the unification of the Andhras will neither be blurred nor impeded during a period of five or six years, the two governments may have stabilized their administrative machinery and, if possible, also reviewed their land revenue systems etc., the object in view being the attainment of uniformity. The intervening period may incidentally provide an opportunity for allaying apprehensions and achieving the consensus of opinion necessary for a real union between the two States. 388 Andhra and Telangana have common interests and we hope these interests will tend to bring the people closer to each other. If, however, our hopes for the development of the environment and conditions congenial to the unification of the two areas do not materialise and if public sentiment in Telangana crystallises itself against the unification of the two states, Telangana will have to continue as a separate unit. 389. The State of Hyderabad (as we would prefer to all this unit), to be constituted for the time being, should consist of the following districts,' namely, Mahabubnagar, Nalgonda, Warangal including Khammam, Karimhagar,Adilabad, Nizamabad, Hyderabad, Medak and Bidar and Munagaala enclave in Nalgonda district belonging to the.Krishna district of the existing Andhra State.

Posted by: Mr. ravi reddy ravuri At: 18, Nov 2007 5:31:30 PM IST

As written by Ramesh in tdf-discuss Dear all, I will give 1001 reasons why KCR called as visionary and strategic politician. He is the person who is running the movemnt peacefully for the past 7 years. Unlike 1969 movement leaders who have built their political careers on the life of 400 young martyrs. Recently students raised their emotions for some violent action but KCR resisted and he resisted them and said look your careers dont left education. Career should be your first concern. Unlike other politician he didn't urge them to take violent steps. Definately he will be a future misery for andhraites corporate education and health exploitative system. He is the only leader who brought the Telangana issue in to lime light , previously Indra reddy tried for it but he failed. Media is biggest enemy for us, delibarately mudsizling on our leadership. He is not like Chandra Babu who changes Telugu mahila leaders quite oftenly, first Nannapeneni Rajkumari,later Jayaprada now Roja. (In 1985 Nannapaneni Rajkumari and CBN were caught redhandedly in a govt guest house) I dont want say much about great YSR and his family .. he is a factinoist visionary and his son is a romantic visionary in Bangalore. Great Lanco Rajgopal is a keralite(call) girl visionary. Regarding KCR alchol drinking, in telangana 99% of leaders will buze, where as if u observe in US every americam citizen will have alchol every day. There is nothing wrong about it. Just because of him even TDP compelled to talk about Telangana. Recently I spoke to political science professor in new Delhi he praised KCR a lot. Jai Jai Telangana, Written by Ramesh In TDF-Discuss Jai Telangana Thalli, Ravi Reddy Ravvuri

Posted by: Mr. ravi reddy ravuri At: 18, Nov 2007 9:02:58 AM IST

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