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| One more thing: Katnam vaddante doubt pade daani gurinchi, "arigipoyina gramphone record laa andarinunchi idoka samaadhaanam".
Oka vela alaa anukunnaare anukundaam, nashtapoyedi vaallaa(so called andam,dabbu, chaduvu annee vunna abbaayilni miss chesukovadam), meeraa? Saakulu vinadaaniki baagaane untaayi lendi.
"Chittasuddhi lenivi yedainaa yela?"
Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 29, Sep 2002 0:43:45 AM IST Murali Mohan garu,
Nenu yemi cheste meeku yenduku lendi. Gollu gillukuntoo, yemi tochaka, maa ammaanaannala sramani enjoy chestoo, dabbu karchu pettataaniki INTERNET browse chestoo, ilaanti articles raastuntaanu.
Ninna cheppina answer saripotundanukunnaanu. Lastlo nenu raasindantaa tirigi paste chesaaru, kaani vaatiki okka daaniki koodaa answer ivvaledu sari kadaa enni reasons cheppinaa, yenni examples cheppinaa, yenni feelings cheppinaa, "taanu pattina kundetiki moode kaallu" antunnaaru.
(endukante, bharyalni poshinchadam kashtamainappudu, meeku katnam ivvadam maakelaaguntundi. meere cheppina illu dooram ikkade vastundi. Ika chaakiri anukovadamaa, adenandi, manasu sangathi. avunu maa kosam maatrame memu vandukoni tintaam. Ika marriage valla vache laabhaalu ekkuva meeru anubhavistaaru.Yes. ika meeru cheppina so called Sukhaala gurinchi koodaa. Chalam gaaru edo maatannaaru. meeku telise untundi, enta TECHNICAL People ayinaaaaa. enta mandi bhaaryalaku feelings untaayani, vaallu sukhaanni iche vaallu kaadu, they are also partners ani? inka raaste baavundadu. raayadam koodaa ishtam ledu.
Bayata kharchu petti meeru sampaadinche daantlo, "Prema" enta saatam meeku dorukutundi? nikshepamgaa chesukondi alaage evaru oddannaaru? anneeeeeee konukkondi DABBU petti. Ika safer sex and prostitutism gurinchi. vichitramgaa aadavaallaki vesyalannaaru. mari "VITULNI" nindinche vaalle leru. yemi cheddaam? aadavaallu alaa kaavadaaniki moola kaaranaalu ayina magavaari gurinchi evaroo pattinchukoru. Oka magavaadu Prostitutes daggaraki veltaadu, kaani ye aadadainaa nenu alaa chestaanu antundaa? chestundaa? mari prostitutes evaru antaaraa, vidhi vanchitalu, papam ye darileka ee oobilo irukkupoyina vaallu.
idi "kanda pattina vallaki, dabbu madam to , magavaallamane AHAM KAAAAAAAARAM to kallu moosukupoyinaa " purusha pungavulaku artham kaadu lendi. Oka vankara choopu tama meeda vaalithene, cheppaleni vikaaram , asahyam kalugutundi aadavaariki. alaanti feelings paapam mee magavaallaki asalu teleevu kadaa. mee dictionarylo undavu kaabatti artham cheppaalane prayatnam koodaa cheyanu.)
Bharyaalni chillullaagaa, TV llo vache chachu naatakaalu choosi time vellabose vaalla laagaa abhivarninchadam, samaadhaanam ivvadaaniki koodaa manaskarinchatam ledu. yevari vyaktitvam, samskaaram vaallladi ani vadilestunnaanu. konni vishayaalaku vyakyaaninchakoodadanna principle pettukunnaanu, discussionslo participate cheyadam, vache answersni gamaninchadam vallanu.
" JanaJeevana Sravanthilo kalavaalaa?". Deeniki oka Naxalite naayakudu,
"meme janaallo unnaamu, meere(naayakulu) police rakshana lekundaa, graamaalloki dhairyamgaa raalekapotunnaaru ani". (I don't support both the parties regarding the actual issue between them. Since you have given it as example, I mentioned this). kaabatti TECHNICAL people manukuntoo, AC cabinslo work chestoo, "So and So" maaku unnaayi ani cheppukuntoo virra veege vaallaki papam maamoolu janaalu kanipincharu lendi. okkasaari Districtski sambandinchi local papers choodandi. Anni aspects lonu, daarunamaina vaartalu regualar gaa vastoo untaayi. papam TECHNICAL people kadaa, COMPU related matters tappa , ledaa HIGH PROFILE and Hi-Tech news maatrame chadivi, vere normal vishayaalaki, common people troubles gurinchi chadive teerika , opika, aasakthi undavemo !!!!!!!! Kaabatti "Jana Jeevana Sravanthi lo meeru oka saari kalavadaaniki prayatnimchandi". leka pote High profile society and rich circle maatrame "JANAM" ani mee uddesyam ayithe, ee article meeku sambandinchinadi kaadu.
nijamgaa subject gurinchi telchukovadaaniki, telusukovadaaniki prayatninche vaallaki, coin ki ivatali vaipu koodaa choose vaariki yentainaa cheppochhu kaani, vitanda vaaduluku yemi cheppi prayojanam ledu.
Last but not the least, naa article ni, naa article ki mee comments ni meeru vivaaham kudurchukoboye ammaayiki, (oka vela ye ammaayainaa manaspoorthigaa mimmalni chesukovadaaniki angeekariste(this doesn't mean to hurt you but out of the emotions after reading your comments.enduku ilaa raasaanu ante ee kaalam ammaayilu andam, chaduvu, dabbu gurinchi kannaa, avatali vaari vyaktitvaaniki , maree mukhyamgaa "Bharya" ane padaaniki, aa staanaaniki elaanti viluva istaaru ani aalochistunnaaru. telusukondi.), tarvaata meeku aadapilla pudithe, mee ammaayiki mee abhipraayaalu choopandi. And at the same time, (I pray it should not happen), when you left with no money and you need to marry your daughter, then think of your comments. I wish by that time this evil system be ended.
mee venta ammaayila parents padtunnaaaraa? nijam ilaanti abhipraayaalu, inkaa intaku mundu dowry system article lo, (Vikram gaaridi ), vacchina comments , aadapillala talli tandrulu chadivi "SIGGU" techukovaali. konchem "Cheema" kuttinattayinaa feel avutaaro ledo teliyaali.("DABBU" unde "AASTHIPARULU"). Yes, I very much dare to write like this and I very much mean this. I don't say sorry too. Ilaanti abbaayilaki "Katnaalu" dhaaraposi, tama kootulla jeevitaalu enta "Santoshamgaa", "Sampadalato" tulatoogutaayo kaneesam artham chesukuntaaremo!!!!! baruvu dinchukunnaamu ani maatrame taliche tallitandrula gurinchi vyaakyaaninchadaaniki ika yemi ledu.
Marchipoyaanu, "Thokkalo Work" yemitannadaani gurinchi, ee website lone oka article vacchindi, "I haven't done what I do daily", something like this. author peru marchipoyaanu. Please elaagainaa vetiki maree chadavandi.(mee magavaare raasaarandi. memu raasaamanukuneru!!)
Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 28, Sep 2002 11:00:22 PM IST hi prasanthi,
Oh god ...what a promt reply ...
enti daily browsing centre ki vastaaraa enti ?? leka intlo net vundhaa leka office nundi post chestunanaraa ??
anyway eeroju satuday kadhaa ...holiday ...koncham bore gaa vunte office ki vachaanu ...
ninna answer ichaamu kadhaa!! okasaari check cheddaam ante.. appude reply vundhi nammalekapothunnaanandi (this word taken from MARGADARSI CHITS add comes on E-TV)
eeroju mee profile choosaanu ...
abbo inkaa vandala ,vela, lakshala koddi
topics yee website lo post chesinattunnaaru ..
entha opikandee baaboo ...
tirupati lo chadivinattunnaaru ....
oh venkateswara swami paadaala chentha ..great ...andarikee avakaasam vastundhaa ...u r lucky ...
O.K kaanee ika mana topic ki vaddaam ...
UR POINT:
Meeku chaalaa pedda answer ivvaali.
MY REPLY:
nenu koodaa monday nundi busy gaa vuntaanemo ...project integration work chesi client ki pampaali ...eeroju aithey theerikagaa answer ivvagalanu. ..repu maralaa cricket match vundhi ...busy busy
UR POINT:
choodabote saametalu baagaa vocchu laagaa undi. kaabatti mee anta kaakapoyinaa, mee moosalone saamethalni use chestaanu.
MY REPLY:
mee laagaa BSC , MSC chesina avallakaithey
literature lo pattu vundochemo ...maaku antha samethalu raavulendi ..technical people kadhaa ...
UR POINT:
"Aaliki annam pedite ooriki upakaaram chesinattaa?" emitandi, magavaallu bharya vochi edo mee sommu tinestundani enduku feel avutaaru?
My REPLY:
bharya(wife) edo maa sommu thinestondani memu feel avuthunnnaam ani meeru claim chesaaru kadhaa ???
O.K
mari meeremi thakkuva thinnattu ?? bhartha(husband) edo meeru theesukostunna sommu (DOWRY)anthaa thanu okkade THISTA VESUKUNI thinestunnaattlu, meeru CHILLI GAVVA koodaa andulo use cheyakundaa MADI KATTUKUNI koorchunnattlu chebuthaarenti ??
meeru(ladies) okka paisaa koodaa katnam ivvakundaa pelli chesukovaali anukuntunnaaru .meeru katnam iste evaro MUKKU , MUKHAM theliyani vaadiki istunnattlu feel avuthunnaaru ...
sare meeru antunnadi,anukuntunnadhi correct anukundaam (just for a moment )...
mari meeru alaa think chestunnappudu ....memu(gents) maatram memu sampaadinchina(maa job salary) tho evarino enduku voorake koorchobetti thindi pettaali ...
memu koodaa jobs chestaamu antaaremo ...cheyandi ...money earn chesi ...money save chesi property ni increase cheyandi ...meeke(wife&husband) kadhaa vuntundhi...
UR POINT:
meeku chesi pette panlaku lekka evarainaa kattagalaraa?
MY REPLY :
bhartha(husband) ki annam vandi pettadam, illu chakkapettukovatam ...ilaanti panulanu koodaa ladies edo evariko chaakiree chestunnattu endhuku feel avuthunnaaro naaku assalu artham kaavatam ledhu...
bayata samaajaaniki(soceity ki ) cheppukotaaniki maatram MOGUDU ane oka praani mee daggara padi vundaalaa enti mee (ladies) vuddesyam(opinion) ...alaa meeru anukunte ika pelli ane daanike meaning ledhu...
UR POINT :
udyogam chese aadavaalla sangatemiti? concession istaaraa? meeru dabbulu maatrame sampaayistaaru, mari aadavaallu anni panlu chestaaru.
MY REPLY :
hello madam agaroo , the things have been changed now ...ammaayi job chestu vunte
abbaayilu dowry adagatam ledhu ...
"meeru baddu sampaayistaaru memu anni panulu chestaamu" ane dilogue maati maatikee chepthunnaaru ...emitandee ladies anthagaa iraga chesestunna panulu ......vudayam tiffin cheyatam ...O.K tiffin chestunnaaaaru
memu(gents) oppukuntunnaamu ...mari maaku maatram petti meeru(ladies) UPAVAASAM(fasting) vuntunnaaraa ..enti PEEKALADAAKAA thini TV lo vache serials choosi GURRU PETTI
nidrapothunnaaru ..."gents job maatram chestunanaru " ani claim chestunnaaru ...okasaari ladies manasupetti aalochinchandi ...brain work kastamaa ...physical work kastamaa ...office lo entha pressures , mental tensions vuntaayo job chese ladies ku maatram thelustundhi ..andarikee theliyadhu ...ladies BAAVILO KAPPALU laagaa think cheyatam maanaali ...bayata prapancham loki vachi mana CHANDRA BABU NAIDU cheppinattu JANA JEEVANA SRAVANTHI LO KALAVANDI ...practical gaa think cheyandi...
meeru(ladies) chepthunnaaru kadhaa "MEMU WORK CHESTUNNAAM MEMU WORK CHESTUNNAAM" ani
aaaa thokkulo work cheyatam 10% salary padeste maaku(gents ku) servants chesipedathaaru ...ika PELLAAM, PELLI anevi endhuku ...
ika SUKHAALU ponduthunnaaru ani emainaa claim chestaaraa ...assalu aaa maataku artham ledhu ...OKKA CHETHITHO CLAP KOTTALEMU
i mean to say ...sukham anedhi okaru ichedhi okaru theesukunedhi kaadhu ...adi iddarikee sambandinchinadhi ...peddalu oka saametha chebuthaaru YEE VOORIKI AAVOORU ENTHA DOORAMO AAA VOORIKI YEEVOORU ANTHE DOORAM that is true ...just saareeraka sukhaala kosam(just for physical needs) abbaayilu pelli chesukuntunnaaru ani koodaa claim cheyataaniki chance ledhu ...endukante just aa sukham kaavaalante SAVAALAKSHA (even i don't know the meaning of savalaksha...i hope people use this just name sake) maargaalu(ways) vuntaayi ...ofcourse SAFE ways too ...
UR POINT:
"bharyalu avi kaavaali ivi kaavaali ani adagakoodadu". Ridiculous. Utter ridiculous. enta mandi bhaaryalu adugutaarandi mee oohalo? I really hate this sentence.
MY REPLY :
haa haa haaaa...enti ridiculous?? bhaaryalu bharthalani emi adagakoodadhu ani cheppatam ledhu memu ...thaahathaku minchi koravaddu antunanamu ...MEERU MAMMULNI LUXURIES ADAGANDI MEMU MIMMALNI KATNAM ADUGUTHAAM
chelluku chellu ...meeru luxuries adagatam thappu kaadu ani meeru ante memu katnam adagatam assalu mummaatikee thappu kaadhu...
meeku (ladies ki), mana would-be ki manam money istunanam ane aalochana ledhu ...
sare ...memu(gents) sampaadinchinadhi
mee kosam anukundaam ....
KOORCHUNI THINTE KONDALU AINAA KARIGIPOTHAAYI
.....PADAVAKU CHINNA CHILLU (hole)PADINAA CHAALU MUNIGIPOVATAANIKI ...memu sampaadinchedi KONDA (OR) PADAVA denithonainaa polchukondi(compare)...
ladies ni padavaku vunna CHILLU (hole)
laagaa polchukondi
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IMPORTANT:
ainaa naaku theliyaka aduguthaanu ...evaraduguthunnaarandee ammaayi vaalla parents ni dowry ivvamani ...
vaalle vastunnaaru ...dowry entha kaavaali morro antunnaaru...if i am not wrong ...pelli choopulu anevi first ladies side nundi start avuthaayi .ammaayi side vaallu abbaayi vaalla intiki velthaaru ...
vellina vaallu velli meeku entha katnam kaavaali ani aduguthaaru ...incase vaddu annaaru anukondi ABBAAYILO EDO LOPAM anukuntaaru ....MANCHIKI POTHE CHEDU EDURAINDHI antaaru alaagaa ...
just oka practical exapmle theesukondi
road meeda veluthoo vunte evado car lo(say lancer) lo mee daggariki vachi aaa car ni 10000 rupees(aksharaalaa padivelu roopaayalu)
ki ichestaanante konestaaraa ??....
vaadu ekkado dongathanam chesi kottesi (steal) meeku ammestunnaaru anukuntaaru ...thokkulodhi maximum ante 10 years mana daggara vunde car gurinchi alaa think chestaarey ..mari oka jeevitha kaalam thama koothuritho kalasi vundaalsina abbaayi
NAAKU KATNAM VADDU ante ika aaa parents ki elaanti aalochanalu vastaayo (due to sensor problems i don't write here)...veellu (ammaayi parents) katnam iche aalochanalo vunnaarandee ...so memu theesukovaali thappadhu ...
anthe kaakundaa mari koncham andam, manchi job, manchi family back ground vunna abbaayialaku vunde problems anthaa inthaa kaadhu ...cheppanalavi kaadhu
BELLAM CHUTTOO EEGALU annattu musurukuntaaru MEMU EKKUVA ISTAAM MEMU EKKUVA ISTAAM antto velampaata(auction)vesesukuni kottesukuntaaru ammaayiala parents ...inkaa baagaa cheppaalante KAACHINA CHETTUKE RAALLA DEBBALU annattu vuntundhi alaanti abaayiala paristhithi...
emi cheyaalo thochaka ...
venakatikokadu NEE EDAMA CHEYI (left hand) THEEYI NAA PURRA CHEYI(left hand) PEDATHAANU
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UR POINT :
magavaallani asahyinchukovaddu antaare, ilaanti maatalu vinte elaa untundi ani anukuntaaru? cheppandi. bharya evarini adagaali? anduke udyogam tappakundaa cheyyaali, mee laanti vaalla vekkirintalni face cheyakoodadanukunte.
Yemiti, anni tamaku, pillalaki anukovaalaa? mari bhaarya adigevi evari kosam? aame kosaamaa? eppdu kaanee, ye stree kaanee, kutumbamloni migataa andari avasaaraalu teerchaake, tana sonta avasaraala gurinchi aalochistundi.
"dabbu avasaraalaa", bhartaku enta unte ante karchupettukuntundi, ante kadaa. andukosam vaalla parents mundu meeku dabbu chellinchaalaa? meere chepparu gaa avasaramaithe parents ni adigi testundi ani, mari munde mutta cheppadam endukantaa? adi koodaa anta dabbu lekapote pelle kudarakapovadam endukantaa? mee avasaraalaki(Yes, mee avasaraale, scooter kaani , inka yedainaa kaani. bhaaryani yenni saarlu tipputaaru, mee office ki yenni saarlu use chestaaru, cheppandi).
"Sardukupovaalaa", what an advice? meeru salahaa cheppakkarledu aadavaariki sardukupovaalani. aadavaalle sardukokapoyi unte, mounamgaa baadhalu bharinchakapote(adapaa dadapaa taguvulaadi maarchaalani prayatninchi, viphalamo, saphalamo avvadam), mana India lo yenni kaapuraalu nilustaayi?
Ikkada generalise cheyatamledu. aalochinchamantunnaanu.
"daarinapoye daanayya" ki ivvatledu nijame. "dhanamlekapote bhaarya oddanukune,bhaaryagaa oddanukune O dhanayya" ke gaa istunattu.
when the ladies think why should they give money to marry a guy ,...my open is Qn (bastee main savaal)is that WHY SHOULD A GUY
SHOULD EARN MONEY AND SHOULD SPEND IT FOR A LADY who marries him ....
This site main jawaab. meeku, mee intiki chese chaakiriki khareedu katte sharaabu tanam meelo undaa?(avunu chaakirine, yendukante bhaaryaku dabbulu karchu pettaalante, yedichi chachche vedhavalaki oodigam cheste, chaakirine gaa. Tit for tat).
maa pillalaki use ayye money, maa talli tandrulu ivvaalaa? kanna tandri paapam yemi chestaado? maa pillalni bharta aadaayam enta unte anduku taggatte penchaalanukuntaam kaani, maa kanna vaalla oopiri teesi, mammalne kaaka, maa bhartalni, maa santaananni koodaa bharinchaalani kaadu.
dabbulu swanta avasaraalaki vaadukovadam, maa tallitandrulu mammalni chadivinchadaaniki inta kashtapadaarani cheppukovadam(maa tallitandrulu koodaa mammalni ante goppa chaduvulu chadivinchaaru. yemi mee vaallu mimmalni baagaa choosinanduku(biddalu kaabatti penchaaru. daarinapoye daanayyalno, chettakuppalo dorikina vaallano penchaledugaa), kaaboye bhaarya aa kharchantaa repay cheyaalaa? lekapote aame appanamgaa tinnattaa? viddooram. yemi vaallu anta kashtapadi chadivinchinanduku meeru manchi udyogaalu sampaadinchi, mee swasaktito, swasampaadanato vaallani baagaa choosukondi. evaru oddannaaru?).
"Paapam anubhavinchaalaa" appudu kanyasulkam kaabatti, ippudu varakatnama? meeru ye kaalam lo unnaarandi? alaagaithe anubhavinchandi. meeru raasina ee article mee kaaboye bhaaryaki, meeru pelli kudurchukunetappudu chadivi vinipinchandi. meeru koodaa anubhavistaaru.
I can very surely say, still there are deaths caused due to dowry. See in villages. Don't talk about cities. Though the rate may be decreased. Should we be satisfied with that? We should try to completely eradicate these kind of situations.
"meeru koodaa aa taasuloni mukke gaa" 200% yemi kharma, enta % ayinaa support chestaaru. appanamgaa dabbulu voste chedaa?
entamandi abbaayilu love marriages lo dowry teesukoru. may be 25% teesukokapovacchu. kaani ee question ki mee magavaalle honest answer ivvaali.
avunu "Union of Hearts" ledu ilaanti arrangementslo, only weightage of money. that is what I want to convey. Thanks for emphasizing the same.
"Global gaa aalochinchaalaa? vaalla ammaayilaku elaanti lotu raakundaa choosukovaalani". ante ammaayila tallitandrulu katanam ivvakapote, ika ammayiki annee lotupaatle. nijam oppukunnaaru. Idandi sangathi. Indilo gala global nature yemito? Magavaallu eppudu magavaalle.
ye aadadainaa bharta kshemam gurinche aharaham aalochistundi. kaabatti bharta financial gaa troubles lo unte, she will help him by doing job(if not she already) or by any possible means.
Raachi rampaana pettinaaa, pettakapoyinaa, katnam aadavaallaki vaalla talli tandrulaki yeppudu saapame.
Ika mee "Gontemma Korkela" gurinchi. Guruvinda saameta mee "magavaallake" vartistundi. aachaaraalani, saarelani, avani,ivani, meeru kore vannee(katnam kaaka, inkaa adanam), gontemmalu kaaka inkemiti?
"Us, ours" anukovaalaa? mundu mee magavaallu anukondi. "Us" anukunte katnam enduku? mee bhaarya ku tindi pettadaaniki, premagaa choosukovadaaniki dabbulu enduku?
Ika mee ending, very surprising. anaalsinavannee ani, last lo sorry cheppaaranta. alaage undi. Bhale goppa samskaaram.
Nenu koodaa sorry cheptunnaanandi. I don't want to hurt you but felt very obliged to give an answer to you.
with regards,
Prasanthi.
Posted by: Mr. Murali Mohan T At: 28, Sep 2002 5:39:36 PM IST Hello NM garu,
SS garu answered your question.
Hello SS garu, Thanks for answering him.
Hello Adwait garu, Yes there are many reasons for its origin, but there is no reason to practise it now as you mentioned.
Regarding extravaganzas in marriage celebrations, yes, that is also true.
Hello Murali Mohan garu,
Meeku chaalaa pedda answer ivvaali. choodabote saametalu baagaa vocchu laagaa undi. kaabatti mee anta kaakapoyinaa, mee moosalone saamethalni use chestaanu.
"Aaliki annam pedite ooriki upakaaram chesinattaa?" emitandi, magavaallu bharya vochi edo mee sommu tinestundani enduku feel avutaaru? meeku chesi pette panlaku lekka evarainaa kattagalaraa? udyogam chese aadavaalla sangatemiti? concession istaaraa? meeru dabbulu maatrame sampaayistaaru, mari aadavaallu anni panlu chestaaru.
"bharyalu avi kaavaali ivi kaavaali ani adagakoodadu". Ridiculous. Utter ridiculous. enta mandi bhaaryalu adugutaarandi mee oohalo? I really hate this sentence. magavaallani asahyinchukovaddu antaare, ilaanti maatalu vinte elaa untundi ani anukuntaaru? cheppandi. bharya evarini adagaali? anduke udyogam tappakundaa cheyyaali, mee laanti vaalla vekkirintalni face cheyakoodadanukunte.
Yemiti, anni tamaku, pillalaki anukovaalaa? mari bhaarya adigevi evari kosam? aame kosaamaa? eppdu kaanee, ye stree kaanee, kutumbamloni migataa andari avasaaraalu teerchaake, tana sonta avasaraala gurinchi aalochistundi.
"dabbu avasaraalaa", bhartaku enta unte ante karchupettukuntundi, ante kadaa. andukosam vaalla parents mundu meeku dabbu chellinchaalaa? meere chepparu gaa avasaramaithe parents ni adigi testundi ani, mari munde mutta cheppadam endukantaa? adi koodaa anta dabbu lekapote pelle kudarakapovadam endukantaa? mee avasaraalaki(Yes, mee avasaraale, scooter kaani , inka yedainaa kaani. bhaaryani yenni saarlu tipputaaru, mee office ki yenni saarlu use chestaaru, cheppandi).
"Sardukupovaalaa", what an advice? meeru salahaa cheppakkarledu aadavaariki sardukupovaalani. aadavaalle sardukokapoyi unte, mounamgaa baadhalu bharinchakapote(adapaa dadapaa taguvulaadi maarchaalani prayatninchi, viphalamo, saphalamo avvadam), mana India lo yenni kaapuraalu nilustaayi?
Ikkada generalise cheyatamledu. aalochinchamantunnaanu.
"daarinapoye daanayya" ki ivvatledu nijame. "dhanamlekapote bhaarya oddanukune,bhaaryagaa oddanukune O dhanayya" ke gaa istunattu.
when the ladies think why should they give money to marry a guy ,...my open is Qn (bastee main savaal)is that WHY SHOULD A GUY
SHOULD EARN MONEY AND SHOULD SPEND IT FOR A LADY who marries him ....
This site main jawaab. meeku, mee intiki chese chaakiriki khareedu katte sharaabu tanam meelo undaa?(avunu chaakirine, yendukante bhaaryaku dabbulu karchu pettaalante, yedichi chachche vedhavalaki oodigam cheste, chaakirine gaa. Tit for tat).
maa pillalaki use ayye money, maa talli tandrulu ivvaalaa? kanna tandri paapam yemi chestaado? maa pillalni bharta aadaayam enta unte anduku taggatte penchaalanukuntaam kaani, maa kanna vaalla oopiri teesi, mammalne kaaka, maa bhartalni, maa santaananni koodaa bharinchaalani kaadu.
dabbulu swanta avasaraalaki vaadukovadam, maa tallitandrulu mammalni chadivinchadaaniki inta kashtapadaarani cheppukovadam(maa tallitandrulu koodaa mammalni ante goppa chaduvulu chadivinchaaru. yemi mee vaallu mimmalni baagaa choosinanduku(biddalu kaabatti penchaaru. daarinapoye daanayyalno, chettakuppalo dorikina vaallano penchaledugaa), kaaboye bhaarya aa kharchantaa repay cheyaalaa? lekapote aame appanamgaa tinnattaa? viddooram. yemi vaallu anta kashtapadi chadivinchinanduku meeru manchi udyogaalu sampaadinchi, mee swasaktito, swasampaadanato vaallani baagaa choosukondi. evaru oddannaaru?).
"Paapam anubhavinchaalaa" appudu kanyasulkam kaabatti, ippudu varakatnama? meeru ye kaalam lo unnaarandi? alaagaithe anubhavinchandi. meeru raasina ee article mee kaaboye bhaaryaki, meeru pelli kudurchukunetappudu chadivi vinipinchandi. meeru koodaa anubhavistaaru.
I can very surely say, still there are deaths caused due to dowry. See in villages. Don't talk about cities. Though the rate may be decreased. Should we be satisfied with that? We should try to completely eradicate these kind of situations.
"meeru koodaa aa taasuloni mukke gaa" 200% yemi kharma, enta % ayinaa support chestaaru. appanamgaa dabbulu voste chedaa?
entamandi abbaayilu love marriages lo dowry teesukoru. may be 25% teesukokapovacchu. kaani ee question ki mee magavaalle honest answer ivvaali.
avunu "Union of Hearts" ledu ilaanti arrangementslo, only weightage of money. that is what I want to convey. Thanks for emphasizing the same.
"Global gaa aalochinchaalaa? vaalla ammaayilaku elaanti lotu raakundaa choosukovaalani". ante ammaayila tallitandrulu katanam ivvakapote, ika ammayiki annee lotupaatle. nijam oppukunnaaru. Idandi sangathi. Indilo gala global nature yemito? Magavaallu eppudu magavaalle.
ye aadadainaa bharta kshemam gurinche aharaham aalochistundi. kaabatti bharta financial gaa troubles lo unte, she will help him by doing job(if not she already) or by any possible means.
Raachi rampaana pettinaaa, pettakapoyinaa, katnam aadavaallaki vaalla talli tandrulaki yeppudu saapame.
Ika mee "Gontemma Korkela" gurinchi. Guruvinda saameta mee "magavaallake" vartistundi. aachaaraalani, saarelani, avani,ivani, meeru kore vannee(katnam kaaka, inkaa adanam), gontemmalu kaaka inkemiti?
"Us, ours" anukovaalaa? mundu mee magavaallu anukondi. "Us" anukunte katnam enduku? mee bhaarya ku tindi pettadaaniki, premagaa choosukovadaaniki dabbulu enduku?
Ika mee ending, very surprising. anaalsinavannee ani, last lo sorry cheppaaranta. alaage undi. Bhale goppa samskaaram.
Nenu koodaa sorry cheptunnaanandi. I don't want to hurt you but felt very obliged to give an answer to you.
with regards,
Prasanthi.
Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 27, Sep 2002 9:49:44 PM IST hello lakshmi prasanthi gaaru ,
POINT POSTED BY U :
It is not at all a mistake if I quote that it is the same Dowry which is making the married women's life worse than anything.
MY OPENION :
In my view ,thinking like that is the mistake ...
because , no girl marries a boy who doesn't have money ,job,handsomeness etc ...
each and every girl try to marry guy with "ALL" , right ?? and when the girl is giving money to the guy to whom she is going to be married ...in the name of DOWRY ...
is she giving it to an unknown person (daarina poye daanayya ki istondhaa ?) ..NO ..she is giving to his WOULD BE ...means ..after marriage she also uses the same for her needs ..and also for her children ...so directly or indirectly she is giving the money to HERSELF ...
when the ladies think why should they give money to marry a guy ,...my open is Qn (bastee main savaal)is that WHY SHOULD A GUY
SHOULD EARN MONEY AND SHOULD SPEND IT FOR A LADY who marries him ....
meeru money istunnadhi meeku kaaboye bhartha ki ani adi mee pillalaki use avuthundhi ani gurthupettukondi ...meeru evariko money daarapostunnattu feel aithey ...memu(guys) koodaa "memu kastapadi sampaadinchindhi evaro daarina poye daanamma ni pelli chesukuni vaallaki enduku kharchu pettaali ani think cheyaalsi vastundhi" ...
ikkada "NENU abbaayiki money istunnaanu" ani think cheyadam kante koncham global gaa NENU NAA FAMILY KOSAM MONEY BACKUP vunchukuntunnaanu ani ammaayilu think chesina roju elaanti problems vundavu ...
POINT POSTED BY U:
Long Long ago, a Century back there was another custom 'Kanya Sulkam'
NOW we have 'Vara Katnam'.
MY OPENION ON THIS:
U (ladies) urself agree that KANYASULKAM was there ...
thers is one saying "future depends on what u do at present"
so appudu meeru theesukunnaaru(kanyasulkam)
mari ippudu ivvandi VARAKATNAM ..
evari paapa kharmalaku vaare bhaadyulu ...
memu appudu meeku ichindhi anthaa ippudu vaddee tho sahaa theesukuntunnaamu ani anukondi ....
meeku (ladies ki)thalaraatha ,paapa kharmalu, punarjanma ane vaati meedha nammakam vuntundhi anukuntunnaanu ...
mana peddalu antu vuntaaru edainaa
problem vachinappudu "IDI POORVA JANMA SUKRUTHAM ..appudu chesukunna paapa kharmalu ippuidu anubhavistunnaam ANI" ..
adi mummaatikee correct...
yee varakatnam koodaa anthe ...
appudu (flashback lo as u said one century ago)KANYASULKAM theesukunnaaru (paapam chesaaru)..
ippudu VARAKATNAM ivvandi(paapa parihaaram chesukondi)
POINT POSTED BY U:
whatever the motive behind this custom, this has become a devil and squeezing girls and their parents out of their lives.
He treats himself as a super power and as a person directly descended from heaven, and the poor woman have to give dowry to get him as her man.
MY OPENIONON THIS:
meeru (ladies ) putti perigina
environment meeda koodaa depend ayi vuntundhi meeru oka article lo opinions raasetappudu ...
take for example : family with two daughters
elder one name A (say)
younger one name B(say)
"A" marriage jarigi attha (mother-in-law)
vaalla intlo problems face chesindanukondi ... automatically
"B" mind will be tuned to bad ideas and opinions on gents and mother-in-laws;
choodandi ...prapamncham lo andaroo okelaaga vundaru ani think cheyandi ladies ...appudu
"B" life baaguntundhi ...ledante marriage chesukuni manasulo wrong opinions pettukuni
even husband manchi vaadaina maga jaathi(gents) meeda dwesham tho peedinchakundaa vuntundhi ...
POINT POSTED BY U:
There are many cases of killing their daughter-in-laws in the name of dowry.
MY POENION ON THIS POINT:
at the same time u should not forget that there are more and many more cases where the
mother-in-laws look after their daughter-in-law in very good manner ...
meeru inkaa 50 years venukati vaalla laagaa think chestunnaaru ...ippudu SURYAKANTHAM(lady villain mother-in-law character in telugu movies) type janaalu leru ...prapancham chaalaa maarindhi ..,adjustment nature baagundhi ...which is very good thing which i observed ...
POINT POSTED BY U:
Much wonder is about the women only. Women who once have seen their parents' difficulty in arranging dowry for themselves, will demand dowry for their sons. This is one of the biggest wonders to me.
MY OPENION ON UR POINT:
so meelo (ladies lo) thappu pettukuni gents ni thiduthoo koorchokandi ...it is just similar to "gurivindha ginja saametha"
first mimmulni meeru (i mean ladies) correct chesukondi ...mee ammaayiki katnam ivvaddu mee abbaayiki theesukovaddu ...
"attha kooodaa oka inti kodale" kadhaa ??
so ladies correct gaa vunte meeru cheppaare
"it is one of the biggest wonders for me" ani alaaanti wonders assalu vundavu
POINT POSTED BY U:
I have a debate with a Sir who is the Head of the Dept. in Electronics in an Engineering College in our town, Nellore.
He raised two points: The first one is: You or your parents do not give money to a person whom you think less worth of, and the amount increases as the worthyness of the boy.In the same way, if the boy feels the girl as otherwise OK in Beauty, Earning or Property, Education etc., , he will decrease the amount.
The Second thing is: Will a Girl who is very rich and beautiful and very well educated ever marry a boy who is less educated than her and low in social status?
He concluded that if woman wants money you name it as Security and if man wants it you name it as desire.He wants me to think deeply without any bias.
MY OPENION ON UR POINT:
yeah ...he is 200% correct ...
"entha chettuki antha gaali" ane sametha ki balam chekoorchaaru ....
ekkadunnaaro mahaanubhaavulu ..chetuletthi namaskaristunnaanu ...
POINT POSTED BY U:
If a woman loves a man, she marries him against all odds. If a man loves a woman, will he marry her without any dowry?
MY OPENION ON UR POINT:
madam gaaroo ...just thanu preminchina ammaayi kosam ...entho mandi abbaayilu parents ni edirinchi pellillu chesukunevaallu
koddi rojula kritham ...nowadays lot of maturity came in gents ...they are convincing their parents and then marrying the same girl ...maree critical situation vaste lechipothunnaaru ...ledante chastunnaaru (suicide)adi vaalla pirikithanam , dhairyam etc etc factors meedha depend ayi vuntundhi ...ofcourse chachipovaalantene ekkuva dhairyam kaavaali ...lechipovataaniki kaavalasinadaanikante...
POINT POSTED BY U:
Is marriage should be settled on the basis of union of hearts or on the weightage of money?
MY OPENION ON UR POINT:
just 10 years back vishayam theesukondi ...
ammaayilaki kaanee abbaayilaku kaanee vaalla ki nachina vaallani pelli chesukune freedom vundedhi kaadu ...what i mean is there were almost few love marriages and almost all were arranged marriages ...
in that case ...pelli chesukopoye ammaayiki , abbaayiki okarinokaru kalisi manasu VIPPUKUNI maatlaadukune avakaasam vundedi kaadhu ...abbaayilu thana parents choopinchina ammaayiki "thaali (sacred yellow thread)" kattevaaru ..ammaayilu parents cheppina abbaayi daggara THALA VANCHI thaali kattinchukune vaaru ...so meeru expect chesinattu "UNION OF HEARTS" ane question raise kaadhu ...
POINT POSTED BY U:
my request to boys: You just think about the feelings of women. What is your superiority that we have to give you money? Please don't think the dowry as the easiest way to get rich, to get property.
MY OPENION ON UR POINT:
meeru (ladies) koodaa global gaa think cheyandi ..ammaayi vaalla parents groom ki endukistaaru money ?? vaalla
alludu(son-in-law) ammaayiki elaanti lotu raakundaa choosukovaalani ...
newly married couple ki elaanti money related problems raakoodadhu ani ...
anthe kaanee "munthalo koodu muntha lo vundaali ...bidda maatram laddu laagaa vundaali " ante elaa ??(i don't remember exact proverb)
POINT POSTED BY U:
If you male decides not to take dowry then it will be a support for the female also to raise their voice and fight for equality.
MY OPENION ON UR POINT:
if u female try to understand the actual concept of giving the money to the groom
and grow-up then there is no problem at all.
it is not u r giving money to groom ..indirectly u r taking money for ur needs and ur husband and ur children needs..
say for example katnam ivvakundaane pelli chesukunnaare anukondi ...after some days of marriage ...money related problems vachaayanukondi ...appudu maatram ammaayilu
emi pattanattu koorchuntaaraa ...manasu vunna ye ammaayi ainaa husband paduthunna problems choosi navvukodhu ....indian history lo "savithri, anasuya" etc etc lu elaa vunnaaro ippudu vunna prathi ammaayi koodaa oka anasuya or savithri ...
husband ki(indirect gaa wife ki) problem vachinappudu ammaayi chese first and foremost pani enti ante parents sahayam kori dabbu thechukuni bhartha ni odaarchatam ..problems nundi bayata padatam ...
so after marriage money related risks vachi thama koothurlu ibbandhulu padakoodadhu ani parents kontha money abbaayiki(through ammaayi channel) istaaaru ...
antha endukandee ...ippudu marokka adugu(one more step) munduku vesaaru parents ...bidda(child either male or female) puttagaane kontha fixed deposit gaano leka LIC policy gaano edo oka form lo vesestunnaaru ..(really nice thing) ...inthakumundhu aithey ammaayiki pelli daggara paduthunnappudo leka
abbaayiki/ammaayiki college donations ivvavalasina time lono vere vaallani yaachinchakundaa (without going for debts)..
ikkada meeru cheppinattu katnam vishayaalalo problem eppudu vastundhi ante ...attha maama lu (pellaam parents)ichina dowry thini ..vyasanaalaku baanisa aipoyi pellaanni(wife ni) iraga thannuthoo vunte ...puutinintiki velli dabbul;u theesuku rammani cheppatam jariginappudu...appudu alaanti maga vaallaku meeru (ladies) entha daarunamaina siksha(punishment) vesukuntaaro vesukondi ...
naaku thelisinantha varaku athi daarunamaina punishments NARAKAM lo vestaaru ...peddalu cheppatam dwaaraa thelisina vishayam...mee (ladies) daggara antha kante daarunamaina punishments ivvagalige chitkaalu(ideas) vunte implement chesukondi nirabhyantharamgaa (without any oppose)
we too against to those shit fellows ...anthe kaanee prapancham lo vunna maga vaallanu anthaa oke gaatilo katteyakandi(i mean don't throw all the men into the same sort of list which u are telling as worst)..
inkaa ladies ki cheppedi enti ante
husband thaahathaku minchina GONTHEMMA KORKELU kori visiginchoddandi ...mogudiki schooter kone thaahatha(capacity) vunte
"prakka intilo pankajamma vaallu choodandi
car konnaaru ...manam koodaa kondaam" ani visiginche SUPPANAATHI SOORPHANAKKALA ku maatram mallee malleee parents daggariki velli dabbulu theesuku raavalasina thippalu thappavu ...ladies adjustment dhorani tho vundandi.
POINT POSTED BY U:
Above all, the youth must be given freedom to chose their life partners.
MY OPENION ON UR POINT:
anni vishayaalalo meetho (in this context "meetho" refers "prasanthi garu" not general "ladies" as i mentioned in all above contexts) vibhedinchinaa kaanee final gaa meeru cheppina point ki maatram naa vote vestunnaanu ...i don't mean that i am against vara katnam ...but what i mean is that let the youth (huys and gals) know
the actual reasons,motivations,ideas behind giving the DOWRY and taking the dowry and parents should cultivate the children sothat they will adjust with any person in any circumstance ..not to think as superiors or inferiors (women to men and viceversa) and to think globally that they are life partners ..there is no money like ...ammaayi money ...abbaayi money ...money manadhi ...mana family money ane opinion vunnantha varaku dowry ivvatam thappu/oppu
(wrong/right) ane thokkulo doubts raavu
elaanti manahspardhalu(misunderstandings) raavu [i mean to say ...say good bye to words like ME,MINE etc say welcome to US,OUR'S ]
SPECIAL THANKS to LAKSHMI PRASHANTHI garu for giving me the opportunity to participate in this discussion .which i came accross while browsing telugupeople.com
REQUEST: dear Lakshmi Prasanthi garu , ekkadainaa aaavesam ki lonu ayi thappugaa raasi vunte chinna thappulanu pedda
manasutho kshaminchagalaru...all the things i said above are in general ...not to hurt anybody ...and not by keeping any individual
mee
Murali Mohan .T (unmarried)
Posted by: Mr. Murali Mohan T At: 27, Sep 2002 5:34:37 PM IST The issue of dowry transaction is so shameful, yet everyone seems to be eager to get it and are even putting forth arguments and masking their greed with some rationality of elders hard work / investment in sending kids to US etc. How come marriage has transpired into sole 1000% profit returns guaranteed business escapes my imagination. If we want to understand and eradicate the menace of this dowry system, we need to understand the origin of dowry as it started. Every society adopts / practices some kind of traditions as suited per the time and have some rational explanation.
Dowry, aka Vara Katnam when it started in the ancient days, had its significance and was necessary for the following reasons:
The life expectancy of humans was very low, especially that of the male members of the society, as they are exposed to working outside the home. Particularly male members of the society formed the larger risk group of dying at an early age due to accidents /snake bites / wild animal attacks /wars etc depending on the livelihood pursued. Females of the society had more or less more stable rather unrisky lifestyles (Except for the perennial child bearing process, which could cause havoc to the body, and weakened immune system). Females could fall sick, but death rates were higher among male members.
In this backdrop, when the husband dies at a premature age, the female is left to rear the multitude of fatherless children (I am sure they didn't practice we two and ours two then in regimented manner). Being female of that age and not endowed with employable skills, she would have to depend on the goodwill of either husband's family or her family. Also, we need to be cognizant of the lack of a well documented, detailed and thoroughly administered property rights affected by an efficient judicial system at that time. All these led to a system of giving some property (mobile & immobile) in the name of the girl so that she could sustain her life in any eventuality, so that the society is not burdened with unruly, uneducated and ill-fed children from these helpless widows. Also, this helps the widows not to take up drastic measures of either suicide or prostitution, both of which would be a shame to any civilized society.
But coming back to 21st century, are our women in the same dire straits? Answer is a resounding NO! Women of this age are well educated, capable of achieving on par, if not more with their male counterparts. We have as many women entrepreneurs, for God's sake we even had a Women PM whose rule showed us one of the best times in National pride (remember how she crushed pakis in 1971??, eh?). We have several women CMs. Now what was once, a necessary practice has turned into an evil practice. Every society and culture has to modify its customs according to changing times, else it ill result in perishing of the society. We, Indians (and Hindu culture) has shown great tenacity in absorbing, adapting to new things of changing times. If so why is this FIXATION with dowry. Also, I see this rampant in GULTIs. What kind of greed drives us to this insane, impractical and irrelevant practice? It abhors to read some morons justify dowry practice and granting immunity with unquestioned impunity.
The change should come from all educated Men and Women. Mothers and Mother-in-Laws. Fathers and Father-in-Laws. and so on. That should not be the end of the change; we need to reform the entire marriage system. Why so much pomp and waste in our marriages? Why can't GULTs adopt simpler marriage systems (still religiously sanctioned) like ARYA SAMAJ??
Who will benefit from these extravagant expenses? It is sad truth that the reform movements have come to a standstill with the advent of freedom to us. We need to reform our society today more than ever.
Vande Mataram,
Adwait.
Posted by: Mr. Adwait Aditam At: 30, Aug 2002 5:07:22 AM IST mr nm
if a girl has equal right to the propery her parents may give it to her but at not the demands of the future husband but rather as a gift whenever her parents want.
with the dowry system the guy demands it at time of marriage and if not given the girl is tortured either mentally of physically.
so please do not say that we need to respect the system there is nothing to respect in the dowry system. and dont confuse the property rights with dowry.
Posted by: Ms. S S At: 3, Aug 2002 5:38:00 AM IST Hello Prashanthi,
I appreciate your time in writing a nice article on dowry system. You dug out a lot of points, but I would like you to consider the origin of dowry system....
Say, for example..I own a property of around 20 lakhs. I have a son, and a daughter. I say that I won't give dowry to my daughter. Fine....She goes out of my house without taking any money as dowry. So, what happened to ur 20 lakhs ? In Indian society, we generally offer this to son. You see the injustice here... though the son and daughter are equal, they won't inherit ur property equally. It is due to this reason, dowry system was practiced from ages. When ur daughter gets married, it means that she changed her home...she will be one among her in-laws house. She is leaving ur house, man...She won't come back..Even if she did, she comes for only a visit. Hence, whatever you want to give to her, u should give only at the time of marriage..So, I would say that dowry system is justified in one sense...HOLD ON...Historically, this is why dowry is practicsed...what is happening now, I think that's what you are saying...Dowry system should not be forced, but should be respected.
Posted by: Mr. n m At: 28, Jul 2002 1:07:16 PM IST Kiran garu, I agree with you. Parents should give freedom for the children to select their life partners. Marriage is a divine relationship. It should be built with love,care and understanding but not with money.
Even though girls do not like giving dowry, they can't completely condemn it by the force of their parents.If males decide not to take dowry, then it will be good. Regarding Man-woman relationships(for marriage), men need counselling(I feel so). Because if a husband is good and understanding type, any type of girl will listen to him. The age difference must be max. 3years only. I wonder how males can marry 6 or 7 years or more younger females. It is not good.
Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 16, Jul 2002 11:58:01 PM IST We all should appreicate this great article by Lakshmi.
Dowry in any form is a nonsense thing, which is a burden for the bride's parents.
Our Hindu culture boasts of our traditions but why this Dowry systems has not been uprooted since ages?
The answer for the above question is so simple and it is so sad that even highly educated people also don't know the value of marriage and love. Before discussing about Dowry system , one should understand the concept of love and marriage in life.
How many people know the concept of love and marriage in life? somany people think that marriage is just a responsibility which has to be completed by parents in a traditional manner.Marriage should be considered as a divine relationship between 2 hearts.This everyone should understand first.
Why should a girl pay money to a boy to get him married? this is nothing but selling the bridegrooms in the marriage market. In simple words, for a building called Marriage the Money is becoming the Pillar instead of Love. This is the reason why now a days the Marriages are getting collapsed.And lack of understanding between persons is another thing which upsets us.
Have u observed why nowadays people are going for Divorce?
Our parents should change their attitude. They should give importance to a girl's feelings about love and marriage.So many girls are not satisfied with the arranged marriages why? Just think over!
Please respcet a woman's feelings and ideas.
One should change himself before wating for the whole society to change.
Let us hope for a dowryless society.
thanks
Kiran
Posted by: Mr. Prabhu Kiran Lanka At: 16, Jul 2002 11:16:16 AM IST
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