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Articles: My Thoughts | | Do We Need To Practise The Caste System? | |
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| hello raji garu & sreeni garu
Thanks for your answers. Here i can make it clear my point of veiw by taking examples from your own statements. I hope atleast now you can understand my point of view.
Let me first talk about religion and caste. According to me religion was introduced by saying God's name to control the people from doing evil things in the society. Because people will listen if we say that God is there and he will punish you if you do any thing wrong. This is the basic idea of introducing the religion. can you accept this? so after religion came into existence we introduced caste system (indians). so if you observe above statement and Mr.sreeni's statement giving the reason for introducing the caste system, it is very clear that these 2 r just meant for people's benifit. can you accept this. And now i am taking one statement from your coment raji garu, i.e you told that if at all we want to marry other caste people we have to face so many problems. And also you added that you have observed in your close relatives and friends practically. so what did you understand by this? The caste system is not allowing people to live their lives peacefully. PEOPLE EVEN DON'T HAVE FREEDOM TO SELECT THEIR LIFEPARTNERS WITH WHOM THEY HAVE TO SPEND THEIR WHOLE LIFE. Just think once how foolish is this! Still you support the caste system?
As you told Mr.Sreeni, if you cut the branches and then try to cut the roots, this is not possible in india. once you cut the branches, before you try to cut the roots new branches will arise and so you will continue like that cutting branches through out your life. you will never see the roots coming out.
I hate this caste system because people are fighting and killing each other for this useless thing. And right now i am not having any plans to my marriage, And if at all i have to marry a girl from other caste i don't have any objection.
Mr.sreeni u told that i am hating this caste system just because of reservation. PLEASE NOTE THAT DUE TO RESERVATION ONLY NOW I AM STUDYING IN ONE OF THE BEST COLLEGES IN INDIA. So think once whether i am thinking selfishly or universally. IF RESERVATION IS THERE I CAN GET JOB VERY EASILY FOR MY QUALIFICATION.DO YOU KNOW THAT? MORE OVER I AM STILL A STUDENT ONLY, I DIDN'T SETTLE IN MY LIFE.Still i oppose this system. why? think of your self. Added to this you pointed that this is coming from a long time and u and me can't change the system. Why do u think like this? Till now there are so many ammendments in our constitution. so if some thing is not suiting our environment why can't we change it?
And Mr.Sreeni you told that caste system helps people to identify and not to love a sister like girl and marry. I didn't understand how this is possible. More over you added that in big countries like india it is not possible to identify ur correct siblings. CHINA IS FAR BIGGER THAN INIDA. IS THERE ANY CASTE SYSTEM IN CHINA.
Coming to your last lines, you told to take positives in any thing rather than pointing negatives in it. I totally accept with this statement if you mean any PERSON or any other thing. Practically i do that. Here it is very clear that there is no practical advantage of caste system .so what good i have to take from this?
Raji garu, you told that 30 years back also the students wear cycle chains as their belts. yes i agree with that, but compare the destruction at present and 3 decades ago. Is it the same? the destruction is increasing year by year. If you want more clearly here is one example. There is ragging now and then. Are the present death cases due to ragging same as 30 years ago? Think of this once.
Here i can give one more and best practcal example how there will be change in people's thinking. one of my sister's daughter at the age of 6 years, in her class, pointed the next girl and mentioned about her caste and told that "i won't talk to you". See how bad the situation is. Strictly speeking first of all this girl don't know what is a caste. But still hating other people. But here is the mistake she has done. i.e the next girl is also of our caste only. But this girl don't know that we are of that caste. look how the caste system is effecting the people right from the childhood. Ultimately this feeling is strongly fixing in the minds of poeple. SO I SAY ONCE WE BAN CASTE SYSTEM PEOPLE WILL FORGET ABOUT IT WITH IN 2 TO 3 YEARS AND FROM THEN ONWARDS EVERY BODY REALLY TREATS THE OTHER EQUALLY. Are you still oppose my point. Before oppising this just think whether is there any truth in my statement.
And also raji garu you have told that " we thaught that caste discrimination won't be there when we grow old " and also you have founded that there is no declination but instead there is srong feeling for that(possibilly). so it is very clear that in coming days also there is the possibility for it to become more strong.isn't it.
So my dear senior citizens, i say that there are so many EVILS DUE TO CASTE SYSTEM EVEN IN YOUR OWN STATEMENTS JUST THINK OF THEM ONCE.STILL IF YOU ARE NOT READY TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH, I CAN DO NOTHING. I HAVE EXPLAINED TO YOU IN MY BEST POSSIBLE WAY. If you want to coment again, just go back and think about the % of truth in my statements. Even then if you feel caste system is benificial for our society then its up to you. But the only thing i can't understand is that Raji garu, you have told that you too have the same ideas like me when you were a student and now you are totally opposing me that means as the time changed you have totally changed your views. isn't it?
Posted by: Mr. balaji kati At: 15, Sep 2002 1:42:11 AM IST
Hello balaji,
U told caste doent have relation with religion.So how u r differentiating .u know not only in india what ever religion u take they r different types.In india in hindus particualry we r calling these sub branches of religion as castes.if u take christians they also sub branches like who follows Jesus and who follows Mary.IF u tke muslims also they have subbranches like sanni ,shiya and so and so.So our ancients just make sub branches to identify the correct memebers of the family tree and not to love some body who is sister like that and marry.i think that is the root casue of having this system.And if u dont have this system i dont think in a big country like india its not possible to identify ur correct siblings and keeping our relations healthy.
Inka u told i want to cut leaves and u want to cut roots.First try to cut leaves yar if at all u can suceed in that it wont be hard to cut roots.
And y u r hating so much this caste system i dont know.r u ready to marry another caste girl if u not still unmarried.dont u right.
Actually bcoz of reservations only u r hating this system.this caste system exits from a long time.not u and me can change this.instead of changing some thing we better try to think how to make it better.so my idea of removing reservations for caste and give for economically backward people sovles the problem.
Regarding ur questions to Mrs Raji garu i am asking the same quesiton to u also .and dont say u can do it.just show us my marrying some other and stood as example for this society.
Talking some thing and asking other to do is very easy.when u r supporting that core issue u have to follow that also.
And u asked whats the use of caste system.i think my first paragrah well explained abt this.
So instead of thinking to hate some thing try to use the good thing in it and leave the bad thing..
Sreeni
Posted by: Mr. M.S.Reddy At: 14, Sep 2002 2:51:27 PM IST
Dear friends,
I thankyou all for sharing my veiws. And here are my explainations for some of your doubts and at the same time i am giving some questions to you. so try to answer them.
coming to first coment. Sreeni garu,
you told that "i think religion has very near relation to cast". can you please explain me inwhat do they have relation. And more over you told that you think that, but you are not sure. so how can you say that there is the relationship between these two. I totally regect this. Just think practically, these two are entrely different. Religion is concerned about the God. But what about the caste? I didn't understand why you have mixed these two. Practicllay think once. Is there any caste system in other countries? Are they treating people differently? Here don't give example of any african country who are not so developed at least like us.
"But i think caste id to identify the root of our forefathers" what do you mean by this? actually who had introduced the caste system? religion is there since B.C. is caste system existed at that time?
And you have told that its better to ban the reservations on the basis of caste. i accept this but how can this will be possible. no body will agree with this.
you are saying to cut the leaves. But i am saying to pull out the roots. Just think which one is appropriate? first tell me what is religion? hindu, christian, muslim, these are the religions. isn't it? what all these says? equality of all and the ways to have the eternal life. If your idea about religion is not this it means you are just following for the society sake. But this is not the purpose of religion.
Raji garu, here is my answer for your question. The ban of caste system surely changes the thinking of an average man. Because at present where ever we go, we are seperated by these castes. people of one caste won't like people of other caste. Haven't you ever come across the disputes between the castes? You are now 48 years old. Its means you will be having children who r at marriage age or already get married. Tell me with whom you will maryy your children? with your own caste or other caste? surely you will give your children to your same caste. isn't it? why can't you give your children to others? what is the difference between your caste and others? Are other caste people are not equally talented as you are? Just think of this once madam. If caste system is not there, is there any chance for you to search for your caste people? Then there will be no objection for you i think. see here there is the change in peoples thinking. And more over i have clearly mentioned the disadvantages of caste system by giving examples of 2 colleges. still you are unable to accept the truth. I don't know why u like the caste sytem that much.
And also you commented that I am younger than many of you...... and cheppatam kaadu cheyyali. what it means? you say i am not ready to do any thing? More over i asked your advise so that i can do some thing. Even then you had written like above. I didn't understand why you have written like this. And you told that "why should we give respect to youngsters, who don't give respect to u". o.k it is fact. but tell me who didn't give respect to you here? In my article i didn't write any thing harsh. so i didn't understood why u have mentioned the word "respect". Actually you have to be an example for the youngsters. But you asked me to do before telling others. yes i am waiting for the time for my involment in public work. But there are so many people who has already well settled in life. so i am asking their help.
prasanthi garu, thanks for your suggestion to concentrate in my studies. And you also pointed that how many of youth are ready to remove the caste system. yes i agree that a lot are not ready. But on the other hand we should not neglect the youth who are interested in this, they may be less. But we should collect them. still indians are waiting for someone to come and to do something. If everbody is thinking like this who will come forward to help us?
FINALLY HERE IS MY QUESTION PLEASE ASNWER THIS. THE QUESTION IS:
ALL OF YOU HAVE ALMOST OPPOSED MY IDEA OF BANNING THE CASTE SYSTEM. O.K TELL ME WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF PRACTISING THE CASTE SYSTEM. DON'T NEGLECT THIS QUESTION. IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO ANSWER THIS, IT MEANS YOU ARE STILL IN THE 19TH CENTURY AND YOU ARE DECIEVING YOUR SELF. JUST THINK ONCE WHERE YOU ARE.
IF AT ALL I HURT YOU, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
Expecting answers from you.
balaji.
Posted by: Mr. balaji kati At: 14, Sep 2002 12:08:41 PM IST
Hello Balaji,
mee aavedana artham chesukodaginade. kaanee I am not positive in this regard. But one thing, if we all consistently make it an issue, then we can eliminate this caste system(reservations. that is also doubtful. But as you said, hope so)may be after 10 years or so.
asalu enta mandi youth lo caste system remove cheyaalani undi? YOu will be horrified to know the result. My view is not to discourage you. But this is the fact. I can say this because it is my observation after talking to so many people. What they just say is, talking is so easy, but implementing is different. evaroo munduku raaru.
Sriram cinemaalo choosaavaa? kula peddalaku prati vaadu jadustaadu antaaru. kaani okati maatram nijam. Backward castes mukhyamgaa scheduled tribes and castes also inkaa chaalaa venakabade unnaaru. so vaallani improve cheyadaaniki, uplift cheyadaaniki alternate methods ni mundu manam study cheyaali.
Mundu manam chaduvu poorti chesi, mana kaalla meeda manam nilapadi aa tarvaate ilaanti vaati gurinchi concrete steps teesukovaali. ee lopu you just read as much as possible regarding both sides of the coin and invite suggestions from elders.
We are all with you.
Sreenivas gaaru, religion ni, caste ni eliminate cheyanakkaraledu. raji gaaru cheppinattu, eliminate chesinaa, manushula manastatvaalu maaravu.
ayithe meeru cheppinattu, economic basis meeda reservations unte baaguntundi.
raji gaaru, balaji gaariki teliyake manandarini aalochinchi suggestions ivvamannaadu. mallee tanani tirigi question cheste answer ivvaledemo. manam enduku try cheyakoodadu? meeru koodaa aalochinchi suggestion ivvandi.
Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 13, Sep 2002 8:44:00 PM IST
I dont think its true.Bcoz every country have some relgion.And i think religion has very near relation to caste.So all the world is having this castisam in one r another form.
regarding ur second para castisam is not the hurdle for our country development.only the reservations according to caste basis is hurdle.so reservations should be based on economical bacground not on caste.But i think caste id to identify the root of our forefathers.it is coming from ancient times.but u have to blame the people who wrote consitution in which reservations are given for caste but not for economical state of a family.
so first if we remove reservations for castes and then automatically everybody will be equal and as we r educated people no where to talk abt castasim.
if at all we want not have caste i think we should also not to have any religion.
Anticipating to see a world with out religion and caste(i dont think it will be posssible at all)
sreeni
Posted by: Mr. M.S.Reddy At: 13, Sep 2002 1:30:31 PM IST
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