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| vEdamulu apaurushEyamulu anTE evari chEtaanirmimpabaDalEdu. bhagavantuDE modaTa chaturmukha brahmaki vupadEsinchenu. chaturmukhabrahma nunchi Rushulaku .. alaa vachchinavE. I madhya grandastham chEstunnaaru.
vEdamE pramaaNam. inkaavEdaalaku pramaaNam EmiTO naaku teliyadu.
If you are interested you can read more in www.dvaita.org from where I am quoting the below fro kaThOpanishad
Theism Of The Upanishad
Yama makes it clear that God knowledge cannot be obtained only by logic or learning the scriptures. It is God who chooses the deserving and gives them His vision. The statement yameva eshha vR^iNute, embodying this principle of God choosing His devotee for revealing Himself, is the cornerstone of Theism and Bhakti. It is clear from this that the Upanishads do not profess Absolutism, but support Theism. The reference to prasaada (grace) in the expression prasiidati may be noted in this connection.
The rest of the Upanishad is an excellent exposition of the nature of God, the fact of His being a regulator after death and Liberation, necessity of controlling the senses and the methodology of Yoga.
Nature Of God
God's unique nature is aptly explained -- anyatra dharmAt.h anyatra adharmAt.h, etc. The verses asino dUraM vrajati and aNoraNiiyan.h mahato mahiiyAn.h bring out His nature of possessing simultaneous attributes like Movement without moving, Atomicity and being Bigger than the biggest, etc., which are contradictory to each other. ashabdaM asparshaM, etc., brings out His special nature of not possessing prAk.rta attributes and of His being beyond the reach of the Senses like the Eye, Ear, etc. nityo nityAnAM, brings out that He is eternal, and chetanaH chetanAnAM shows that He is the only independent Chetana (Svatantra Chetana). R^itaM pibantau, etc., mentions that He is in the heart of all living creatures in two forms -- AtmA and AntarAtmA, and accepts the fruits of auspicious deeds -- shubha karmaphala. There is no difference between the Muula (original) and Avatara (incarnation) rUpa-s or forms of the Lord. His attributes are not different in essence from Him.
andukanE dEmuni vunikini tarkam (logic) tO teliyalEmu."emEva Esha vRuNutE" - dIni artham -bhagavantuDu arhulani enchukoni vaaLLaki tanasvaroopamunu gOcharimpa chEstaaDu
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 8, Nov 2004 10:30:03 AM IST
Posted by: KS Kiran Kumar At: 1, Nov 2004 11:58:17 AM IST
SrIkRushNuni andaroo dEvunigaa nammalEdanaDaaniki mIku puraaNaalE aadhaaraalu kadaa? alaanTi puraaNaala adhaarangaa lEkunDaa anaDamlO arthamEmundi?
jIvulalO mooDu rakaalu vunnaaru. saatvika, raajasa, taamasa vITigurinchi bhaagavadgIta lO SrIkRushNuDE cheppinadi. SrIkRushNuni avataaramappuDu saatvikajanulandaroo atanini dEmunigaanE nammaaru. saakshaattu aayana nOTilO samastaprapanchaanni chuusina yaSOdaa dEvikooDaa aayana maayalO paDi aa sangati marachindi. taamasulaina kamsa, jaraasandha, SiSupaala, durYOdhanaadulu nammaka cheDipOyaaru. yuddhaaniki mundu arjunuDu, duryOdhanuDu veLLinappuDu arjunuDu, aayudham paTTakapOyinaa sarE SrIkRushNunE kOrukunnaaDu. kaanIduryOdhanuDu lakshalamandi gOpaalakulanE tIsukoni nashTapOyaaDu.
bhaagavatam lO prahlaaduDu tanDri nIku vishNubhakti evaru cheppaarani aDugagaa cheppina padyamulu( 181 -183 saptama skandhamu)
u. achchapu@m jIkaTim baDi gRuhavratulai vishaya pravishTulai
chachchuchu@m buTTuchun~ marala@mjarvitacharvaNu lainavaarikim
jechchera@ buTTunE parulu seppinanaina nijEchChanaina nE
michchina naina@m gaanalaku nE@mginanaina hariprabhOdhamul .
u. kaananivaani nuu@mtagoni kaananivaa@mDu viSishTavastuvul
gaananibhangi@m garmamulu gaikoni kondaR~u karmabaddhulai
kaanaru vishNu@m gondaRaTa@mgandu rakinchana vaishNavaanghri sam
sthaanarajObhishiktulagu samhRutakarmulu daanavESvaraa :
Saa. SOdhimpambaDe sarvaSaastramulu rakshOnaatha: vEyETikin~
gaathal maadhavaSEmushItaraNi saangatyambunam gaaka du
rmEdhan~ daa@mTa@mga vachchunE sutavadhuumInOgravaanChaa mada
krOdhOllOla viSaala samsRuti mahAghOraamitaambhOnidhin~ .
dvaaparam lO andaroo SrIkRushNuni dEmunigaa nammalEdu kaabaTTi ippuDu saayibaabaani andaroo nammakapOyinaa dEmuDE avachchani mItarkamu gaa naaku tOstunnadi.
andukanE tarkamu vEdamulanu SRutulanu anusarinchi vunDaalanEdi.
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 4, Nov 2004 5:20:52 PM IST
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 30, Oct 2004 12:08:59 PM IST
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@Very Good clarification!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jasmine Meera At: 31, Oct 2004 12:26:43 PM IST
Posted by: KS Kiran Kumar At: 29, Oct 2004 5:31:15 PM IST
nEnu vaiSvaanara agni ruupam lO praaNula dEhamulalO vunDi praaNa, apaana, samaana vaayuvulatO aahAramunu jIrNamu chEstaanu.
dushTa samhaaraartham bhagavantuDE kaakunDaa bhagavantuni sEvakulaina dEvatalu kooDaa avataaramulu chEsaaru. abhimanyuDu chandruni kumaaruDu. chandruDu atanni 16 rOjulu (manaki 16 samvatsaraalu) maatramE bhuulOkam lO vunDaDaaniki bhagavantuni vEDu konTaaDu. andukanE daaniki anuguNangaa bhagavantuDu abhimanyuDini bratikinchalEDu. bhagavantuDu sRushTi, sthiti, laya, niyamana( kanTrOl ) jNjaana, ajNjaana, bandha, mOkshamulanu prasaadinchE Sakti mantuDu. kaabaTTE dushTuDaina duryOdhanuni kOrika mEraku aSvatthaamachE apaanDavamugaa prayOgimpabaDina brahmaSirOnaamaka astramu chE chani pOyina parIkshittuni bratikinchi chaturmukha brahma( aa astraaniki adhipati ) kanTE kooDaa vuttamuDani niruupinchaaru.
tarkamu SRuti, SmRutulaku anTE vEdaalaku anuguNangaa vunDaali.
hiraNyakaSipuDu taanE dEmuDanI andaruu tananE puujinchaalani nirdESinchinavaaDu bhagavantuDatanini samharinchalEdaa? nEnu nI bhaktuDini, daasuDini anna hanumantuniki chaturmukha brahma padavini anuhrahinchaaDu. dInini baTTi artham chEsu kOvachchu
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 30, Oct 2004 10:08:59 AM IST
God created man only to preserve his own existence and therefore time and again he needs to remind the man of his (GOD's) existence by incarnations as and when the nature demands-
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 29, Oct 2004 7:45:29 PM IST
Waah Wah kiranji emi questions vesaaru
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jasmine Meera At: 29, Oct 2004 3:54:04 PM IST
Posted by: Mr. Venkat O At: 28, Oct 2004 8:36:56 PM IST
//And i can say one more thing....., No one has seen GOD, still we are believing in GOD right? what could be the reason?? If u r not a devotee to any GOD then i can't talk with you, but if you are a devotee then think about past and also think about present and also go there once then only you can uderstand the real situation.
Without knowing anything simply making comments will hurt the devotees.//
Are there more Gods I mean more than one?
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 29, Oct 2004 2:41:07 PM IST
Posted by: KS Kiran Kumar At: 30, Jul 2004 6:55:58 PM IST
bhagavantuDu tarkaanikanTE atItuDu. vEdamE praamaNyamu. upanishattulu SRutulu bhagavantuDini teliyajEstaayi. bhagavantuni uniki niruupinchaDaaniki okka chinna udaaharaNa chaalu. rOju manam tinE padaarthaalu ela jiirNam avutunnaayi? avE padaarthaalu oka DabbaalO vEstE jiirNam avutaayaa? manaSarIramE vaaTini jIrNam chEstundanukunTE, praaNam lEni SarIram enduku tinalEdu? bhagavantuDu pratI jIvilOnuu vunnaaDu. aham vaiSvaanarObhuutvaa praaNinaamdEhamaaSrita@h praaNaa paana samaayuktam pachaamyannam chaturvidham ani bhagavadgIta lO saakshaat SrIkRushNuDE chEppaaDukadaa! satyasaayi dEmuDaitE chanipoYina SiSuvunu bratikinchamananDi SrIkRushNuDu parIkshituni bratikinchinaTlugaa? Sushkatarkam panikiraadu. tarkam vEdaalu, SRutulaku, SmRutulaku lObaDi vunDaali.
Posted by: Mrs. Anupama At: 29, Oct 2004 11:59:40 AM IST
I agree with you aupamagaaru.
nippulEnidE pogaraadu
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 29, Oct 2004 10:41:34 AM IST
Anupama Garu,
Meeru negative feeling to alochiste antaa negativegaane untundi.kaanee meeru alaa kaakundaa manchi drushtito alochiste adi goppagaane untundi.
Nippu lekundaa jvaala strustincha levu kadaa.... alaage edo goppatanam lenide crores of people would accept not him as a god.
And i can say one more thing....., No one has seen GOD, still we are believing in GOD right? what could be the reason?? If u r not a devotee to any GOD then i can't talk with you, but if you are a devotee then think about past and also think about present and also go there once then only you can uderstand the real situation.
Without knowing anything simply making comments will hurt the devotees.
Regards
Venkat.
Posted by: Mr. Venkat O At: 28, Oct 2004 6:36:56 PM IST
That's it;
www.exsaibaba.com
Good presentation; They never conclude just leave it to the public; probably this is the difference in education.
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 4, Aug 2004 9:18:29 PM IST
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