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General Forum: Society | | muslimlaku rijarvEshan` pathakamlo Oveisee kuTuMbaM kooDaa prayOjanaM poMdachchaa? | |
| Very nice. Do you think then, that these parties are helping you or misdirecting you?
If not, why is not any leader is objecting to it openly? Is it not an insult to the self-respect of any community, when they are being treated as a different lot, away from the main stream, that too when the community itself has not demanded for such a facility??
Do not you think that economic backwardness should be the main criterion for helping the needy & deserving lot?
This is not to provoke you. I hope you have understood the feelings of many people in this country, who are silently suffering because the successive governments are trying to continue this facility, which is not helping the really needy & deserving candidates.
Posted by: SATYA RAMA PRASAD KALLURI At: 14, Aug 2005 6:26:34 AM IST
In Muslim community 99%of the people follow their religion strictly, so according to their religion education for any one up to read and write only compulsory. Most of the Muslim people apply their religion faith and principle to their social life also. Their main focus on financial independence, not on education.
Regarding creamy people like owaisi‘s and nawabs they send their kids to abroad for education even more minority institutes helping a lot.
Now tell me how come these reservations useful to community, this is political gimmick to grab their votes, but these people enough knowledge to choose their leader I believe.
Posted by: Mr. The Fountainhead (A.K.A Fake ID) At: 14, Aug 2005 4:49:19 AM IST
Mr. hyderabadi,
Happy that you have once again started participating in the discussion.
The question is straight - If such reservations are given to a community or caste, do not you think that the creamy layer (who have gone up) is obstructing the opportunities of its own community or caste?
For example, under the name of reservations to Muslims, if some princely persons (say distantly related to the Nizam and hence well to do) claim these benefits, some more deserving persons who are very poor definitely miss that opportunity. Is it a fair thing? Please give your opinion on this aspect.
Posted by: SATYA RAMA PRASAD KALLURI At: 13, Aug 2005 8:50:15 PM IST
don't draw the lines on community or caste basis please
Posted by: Mr. hyderabadi At: 13, Aug 2005 6:39:50 PM IST
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I agree.
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 13, Aug 2005 8:47:42 PM IST
Those links r opinion of one person not the community,
For example in telugupeople one respected person writing so many articles in different periodicals is that opinion of all Telugu people?
as for other part generally in representation to constitution in every democratic developed countries also giving chance of those majority community people if u take any country like in s-Africa so many telugu ethnic origin people r representing constitution, in USA,U.K,Singapore.germany so on so many.
Regarding reservations to creamy layers is they socially respected question yourself
In any democratic countries reservation in education and employment interlinked with balancing of socio -economic theory but in India unfortunately it’s not succeeded.
as for my minority question yes I am Muslim by community before that I’m human being and an Indian don't draw the lines on community or caste basis please.
Thanks for some persons who are keen on grammar and spellings and identities keep it up.
Posted by: Mr. The Fountainhead (A.K.A Fake ID) At: 13, Aug 2005 6:39:50 PM IST
The Bench accepted the Centre's stand that it was for the states to determine whether Jains were a minority community depending on their social condition in their respective States.
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It clearly means that the observation was not against jains as the SC left the decision to respective states and the statement ws with respect to all the so called minority groups
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 11, Aug 2005 12:46:51 PM IST
TSupreme Court has said the practice of listing religious groups as 'minority communities' should be discouraged and the list be gradually be done away with as it promotes divisive tendencies to weaken the nation.
The applies to all minority groups and even though the context was about jains
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 11, Aug 2005 12:37:53 PM IST
Sneha garu,
Your Utopian assumption that all 'reserved candidates' serve their 'mother area' necessarily - cannot be achieved in reality, I fear.
Any way, why cannot we think of 'another type of reservation/quota', wherein the candidate has to give a declaration that he will serve his mother village/state/country after successful completion of the course? - Of course with a punitive measure like 'derecognising the degree', 'heavy penalty for non-compliance' etc.?
Posted by: SATYA RAMA PRASAD KALLURI At: 10, Aug 2005 8:54:29 PM IST
Gd evening, i hv my reservations on this (not that reservations) lol.
Posted by: DoBoy At: 10, Aug 2005 5:55:13 PM IST
List of notified minorities should be done away with: SC
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New Delhi, Aug. 10 (PTI): Defining the ultimate aim of a democracy like India, the Supreme Court has said the practice of listing religious groups as 'minority communities' should be discouraged and the list be gradually be done away with as it promotes divisive tendencies to weaken the nation.
A three-judge Bench comprising Chief Justice R C Lahoti, Justice D M Dharmadhikari and Justice P K Balasubramnyan reminded the Minorities Commissions set up by the Centre and State Governments that the goal of the Constitution was to create social conditions where there was no need to shield or protect rights of minority or majority communities.
"The Commissions instead of encouraging claims from different communities for being added to a list of notified minorities under the Act, should suggest ways and means to help create social conditions where the list of notified minorities is gradually reduced and done away with altogether," said Justice Dharmadhikari, writing for the Bench recently.
This ruling was given while disposing of a petition demanding minority status for the Jain community. The Bench accepted the Centre's stand that it was for the states to determine whether Jains were a minority community depending on their social condition in their respective States.
The court said "in a caste-ridden Indian society, no section or distinct group of people can claim to be in majority. All are minorities amongst Hindus. Many of them claim such status because of their number and expect protection from the State on the ground that they are backward."
The court said if each minority group felt afraid of the other group, an atmosphere of mutual fear and distrust would be created posing serious threat to the integrity of the nation leading to sowing of seeds of multi-nationalism.
"It is, therefore, necessary that Minority Commission should act in a manner so as to prevent generating feelings of multi-nationalism in various sections of people of Bharat," Justice Dharmadhikari said.
The Bench said the commissions were set up to direct their activities to maintain integrity and unity of India by gradually eliminating the minority and majority classes.
Noticing reorgnisation of States on linguistic basis, the Court said "differential treatments to linguistic minorities based on language within the State is understandable but if the same concept for minorities on the basis of religion is encouraged, the whole country, which is already under class and social conflicts due to various divisive forces, will further face division on the basis of religious diversities."
Claims for minority status based on religion would increase as various sections would hope for getting special protections, privileges and treatment as part of constitutional guarantee, it said.
"Encouragement to such fissiparous tendencies would be a serious jolt to the secular structure of the constitutional democracy," the Bench said and cautioned that "we should guard against making our country akin to a theocratic state based on multi-nationalism".
The court said the commission should gear its activities to keep them in right direction with the above constitutional perspective, principles and ideals in view.
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 10, Aug 2005 4:36:15 PM IST
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