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General Forum: Society | | Are Dalits and Brahmins in the same situation today? | |
| I WONDER THEN WHO IS GETTING RESERVATIONS?BUT THE 'MEDIATORS' WHO CREATE THIS CHAOS.
THE SO CALLED 'MEDIATORS' AT THE TIME OF 'KINGS REIGNS' WHO USED TO COLLECT TAXES FROM POOR LABOURERS AND FARMERS.
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 15, Aug 2006 2:23:52 PM IST
chandrabhan INTERVIEW:-
Kanch Ilaiah is a Shudra scholar. He targets Dalits sentiments. Tells them that Brahmans are the creators of the Chatur-Varna Order, that they developed the notion of untouchability. And therefore, they must be destroyed. Dalits tend to get emotionally moved." but, he never says that it is not the Brahman, it is the Brahmanical Order which has to be destroyed. He never says that upper Shudras are turning more Brahmanical than Brahmans themselves. He never tells what is the performance of Shudra governments in the South and elsewhere. He never tells us what the Thevars do to Dalits in Tamil Nadu, or Kammas and Reddies do in Andhra Pradesh."
In fact, Kancha is drafting an intellectual trap to Shudraise the nation's culture. Dalits and Shudras differ culturally as much as Dalits and Brahmans do.
Dalits have a distinct culture. But we should not glorify it. Neither do we want Brahman/Shudra culture. We want European culture, which is the best. When West's economic model is turning out to be the standard model for most nations, why not their culture? Every Dalit who is happy today, it is because he is westernised. With which culture was Dr. Ambedkar more close to? Was it not western? In fact, if you examine minutely, Dalits are culturally more close to western culture than cultures anywhere.
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SOUND-BYTES FROM THE INTERVIEW THAT COULD BE USED AS BLURBS
"Shudras tend to have an increased intensity of religiosity than Brahmans... andpractice untouchability more vigorously than Brahmans today. Further, Shudras tend to use violent methods against Dalits more often than Brahmans do. To me, a violent form of aggression is the ultimate form of oppression. But I still believe an attempt should be made to unite with artisan Shudras."
"It is not the majority [bahujan] which is oppressed, it the minority, it is the Dalits. Do you think Shudra communities such as Thevars, Vanniyars, Chettiyars, Gaudas, Lingayats, Vokkaligas, Kammas, Reddies, Jats, Yadavs, Gujjars, Kurmis, Patels, Marathas are oppressed communities?
"The Shudras, once in power, treat Dalits as subjects as they cannot treat Brahmans as subjects. Not only in Tamil Nadu, the entire South is a classic example. Out of every 100 SCs in UP, 43 are cultivators, whereas in TN it is 15, Kerala 3, Karnataka 23, and AP 13."
"I think we should not waste time on religious issues. What happened in Maharashtra? The entire energy went towards spreading Buddhism, and the Dalit movement suffered."
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POINTS TO BE NOTED.
INSTEAD OF "DALIT MOVEMENTS" OR "BRAHMAN MOVEMENTS" lets HAVE "HUMANITY MOVEMENTS".
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 15, Aug 2006 2:16:51 PM IST
Yes, they are!
Please read this article:
http://www.ambedkar.org/chandrabhan/interview.htm
I think this is the time for Brahmins to un-do some of the mistakes the caste system does in India, by joining hands with Dalits and to help them come up in the society.
I have more suggestions on this - will write about them as the discussion goes on...
Posted by: Mr Suresh KVS At: 15, Aug 2006 2:20:58 AM IST
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