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General Forum: Current 'Affairs' | | Kanchi Shankaracharya VS Mohammed Naseeruddin | |
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Posted by: Mr. nill jaks At: 16, Dec 2004 2:27:47 AM IST
Anupama Garu,
Here is something said by the SAME Cho Ramaswami on Dec 15 :)), definitely later than the link you posted in your frantic efforts to prove Sankaracharya gulity lolz
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Cho Ramaswamy clarifies a few issues for readers – an extract from Tughlak 15-12-2004
The police have claimed in the high court that ‘Sri Jayendrar has confessed and it is in the tape’. ‘I have not confessed anything to the police. Therefore no body should feel anxious or confused about this’ says Jayendrar to those who have met him. What is the truth?
Cho: Do not know. However if the police have claimed to have a confession, when in fact they do not have it, it could cause a lot of trouble. I wonder if a prosecutor would do such a thing.
At the same time even if we were to assume that such a statement exists, it is not an admissible evidence court. Referring to it in a Bail application case is itself wrong. I believe that the court was wrong in permitting it. Mr. Fali Nariman (one of the country’s leading legal expert) told me that he fully supports this view. ‘Go ahead and publish that I said so’ he said.
When DMK made a demand that the cases against Jayalalithaa should be shifted out of Tamil Nadu, you criticized it. However, today in the Shankaracharya case you say that ‘In the current scenario, if the case is held here it won’t be a fair trial’. Are you not contradicting yourself?
When a demand was made for shifting the case there was an insinuation that the courts will be under Governmental pressure. That is the view I opposed. Today I am not suggesting moving the case because of a fear that the courts will not be fair because of governmental pressure.
Cho: The media, the lawyers and political parties have resorted to propaganda and declared a judgment that the Shankaracharya is guilty. In this context, I have said that in this case the right of the accused to get a fair trial will be very difficult for the Shankaracharya to get (given all the propaganda). It is because of this that I suggested moving the case out to another state. I have no doubts about the courts. My view is about the current situation prevailing in the state, not about the judiciary. Therefore, there is no contradiction in my statement.
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 16, Dec 2004 2:23:12 AM IST
There were volumes of opinions running for 42 pages as read as heared as seen on TV.
Why only Mohd naseeruddin compared ?????
The comparison between religion or person ????
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 15, Dec 2004 5:35:54 PM IST
So far it's unexplained why the comparison and for what purpose???
Who is compared with whom ??? And why????
What's the common thing between them????
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 15, Dec 2004 5:13:45 PM IST
The comparison between them is post incident or preincident ????
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 15, Dec 2004 4:46:21 PM IST
#As the Shankaracharya stands like Abhimanyu ...
By S Gurumurthy
Saturday, December 4 2004 19:46 Hrs (IST) - World Time
The entire polity of Tamil Nadu except the BJP is ranged against him. Never in the history of the State did the DMK (Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam) and the AIADMK (All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam), whose leaders never meet, ever unite on anything as they do on this issue and against him.
The lawyer's outfits are targeting his head. For the 'secular' media it is a godsend to say not just that the Modi-type Hindus are criminals, even Shankaracharya is one such. It is having a field day in publishing and showing all kinds of rubbish. Here there is no difference between the yellow journals and the serious ones in the content that is carried about him.
Today, the Kanchi Shankaracharya Jayendra Saraswati is standing like Abhimanyu caught in Chakravyuha. Thanks to the vicious atmosphere, the Acharya has been convicted at the bar of the public even as the investigation on the charges against him has just begun.
As his known enemies gloat over this, his vast and dignified followers who do not know how to burn buses and indulge in arson on the roads suffer in silence.
Spotlight: Kanchi Jayendra Saraswathi's Arrest
The charge against Sri Jayendra Saraswati is that he conspired to kill a person who was carrying on a vicious campaign against him and the Kanchi Mutt. The prosecution case is that the Acharya alone, almost no one else on his behalf or for his assistance, was involved in the conspiracy!
The police says, and wants all to believe, that Acharya himself identified the killers, negotiated the terms, gave them the contract, paid the advance, met the killers after the event, pleaded with them to bear with the delay in remitting the balance, and talked to them on phone and so on.
The case against the Acharya rests on three circumstances. One, the Acharya had a motive to eliminate the victim. Second, the Acharya was in contact with the main killer over phone. Third, there are cash withdrawals in the bank accounts of the Mutt, which have been used to pay off the contract killers.
This sums up the case against the Acharya.
There are two ways to approach a criminal investigation. Particularly in a case in which a revered religious leader, representing the oldest religious order of the nation, the Shankaracharya order, is involved.
One, that he is guilty because he could not get over the normal human failings of anger and vengeance. The other that he is innocent and is being fixed by the organisers of the crime using his own apparent motive.
Having almost condemned him as a criminal, let us look at it from the perspective that he may be innocent, a perspective the prosecution has clearly ignored.
Undeniably the victim was hostile to the Shankaracharya and the Mutt. So, the Acharya could have had the motive to eliminate him. But the letters written by the victim and sent to all-important persons in society including the Opposition parties, show that the victim has fixed who the accused would be if he were killed. He had said that if he were killed it was the Kanchi Mutt who would be responsible.
So here is a golden opportunity for some one to fix the Mutt and the Acharya, its head, if he so wished. All that one who had to do to finish off the reputation of a reputed Mutt and the Shankaracharya was to finish off the victim by a contract to kill him.
This could be done without any risk of the doer being accused of murder, as the victim has already identified who would be his killers.
The Shankaracharya must have known that if anything happened to the victim the investigation would target the Mutt, if not him. Why would he then invite the charge?
Despite the victim indicting the Acharya and the Mutt in advance of the murder, the police have gone on the assumption that the Acharya is guilty, namely that the Acharya invited the charge on himself by obliging the victim. This is totally against common sense.
Again the Kanchi Mutt had long been a target of the anti-Hindu Gods movement and the situation presented the best opportunity to hit at the credibility of that great institution. It was an eye sore to the rationalists and anti-nationals. That the main hit man engaged for the task is linked to the DMK is important.
Despite these circumstances, the prosecution has not examined, even in theory, whether some one else could have eliminated the victim so that the Mutt and the Acharya emerge as the readymade accused.
This may be less than a one per cent possibility, but still it is a possibility. A key prosecuting police official is too deeply associated with the DMK to be indifferent to his link. So, from day one the police seem to have fixed the Acharya as the culprit and begun collecting evidence to that effect. Obviously this suits the settled political climate in this State.
//I also feel that the mutt or the jayEndrasarasvati svamIji has any necessity to kill sankarramab on 3-9-04 knowing well that the victim sent lettrs to all implicating the mutt even before his murder.//
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 15, Dec 2004 4:38:38 PM IST
what is the connection for Mohd Naseerudin in this regard ????
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 15, Dec 2004 4:20:13 PM IST
Will the CM have a look at what is happening?
By S Gurumurthy
Monday, December 6 2004 14:55 Hrs (IST) - World Time
Twenty-four hours later it turns out that Usha is a cancer patient for 15 years and has undergone radiation therapy 130 times, yes 130 times! That Jayendra Saraswathi was giving financial help to her. Her name was mentioned by the police in the court as a possible accomplice of the Acharya! The police obviously knew that that the `woman' angle would also malign him.
This is headlined in newspapers whose readership is in millions. Damage done is irreversible which cannot be undone by the truth that came out a bit too late.
Spotlight: Kanchi Jayendra Saraswathi's Arrest
'The Acharya has confessed he is involved,' the police tell the court. They know that the confession claimed by the police, of course denied by the Acharya, is no evidence in law. Actually the police are bound in law not to disclose it. See now the reach of the law on confessions. A man kills someone and goes to the police and files an FIR against himself.
The Bombay High Court sets him free on bail, saying that that he has indicted himself is no ground to keep him in jail. This is also no ground to convict him. This is the law. See how the police get around the law against the disclosure here.
It first plants news in some yellow journals that the Acharya has confessed. Then that is picked up by a TV channel and telecast. By now millions and millions have read and seen the news, with disbelief. Then comes the prosecutor's statement in the court that the Acharya has confessed. Now the entire media carries the police statement as the final nail in the coffin!
Discuss this topic
As if all that remains is that the Acharya has to be just hanged. The police know that unless the Acharya makes it before the court, that confession is not valid in law. The ordinary people do not know law and so they do not know this too. They think that the so-called `confession' is the last word.
Have the police ever told the public that this is no `confession' in law? Has the media ever alerted the public that law will not look at this `confession'? For contrast look at how the very media handles those accused of terror, pontificating on human rights and what not.
The way the polity, media and the police is handling Jayendra Saraswathi and more than him the revered Kanchi Mutt is vicious. It is no more an investigation. It has turned into persecution.
The assassination complaint against him has descended into character assassination. As recently as a decade ago, one of the greatest saints of modern India, Chandrasekarendra Saraswati, also known as the `Mahaswami' or the `Paramacharya' was heading the Kanchi mutt which has a 2500-year history.
It is this institution which is being mauled today, virtually undefended. The attackers know that the Mutt, which lacks the skill and the infrastructure to take on the might of the attackers, cannot defend itself.
Hence more attack by the attackers is met with more silence by the Mutt. The triad of polity, media and the police have effectively convicted Jayendra Saraswathi for culpable homicide on no legal evidence - yes, no legal evidence - with the two accused persons having publicly disowned their confessions against the Acharya.
With their retraction, the prosecution is virtually dead, unless the police torture someone else to secure a confession against the Acharya. If there is a verdict on the evidence the police have the Acharya will be honourably acquitted. But how many know that fact?
Never in the history of India has an institution of high reverence been so recklessly and disrespectfully dealt with. Compare this with what happened when the Islamic institution of Deoband at Nadwa revered by millions of Muslims was raided, by the Central and State police, in the 1990s for harbouring ISI agents, an act endangering national security.
The raid was called off midway, yes midway, and Narasimha Rao, the then Prime Minister, had to send two of his senior ministers, one a Hindu and another a Muslim, to apologise to Ali Mian, the head of the Nadwa institution. So the law takes `its course' at Kanchi and `another course' at Nadwa.
With so much malice already in the public domain if tomorrow the judiciary sets Jayendra Saraswathi free for want of evidence valid in law then the very public, fed on media stories of his culpability, will think that the judiciary has set him free for reasons other than law.
That is how such vicious campaigns will hit even the judiciary. It does no good to any one, be it the Government, media or the judiciary. Even if, at the end, I am entirely proved wrong, I cannot shirk my duty to alert the public and sensitise the authorities about the destruction of too many values involved in this investigation which is gradually turning into battle between the silent and silenced Kanchi Mutt on the one hand and the police and its associate, the media megaphones on the other.
It is no more an investigation into a crime. Having transcended to unrelated areas, it is now a larger design to defame and discredit the Mutt itself. Will the Chief Minister have a look at what is happening in the case and set it on course?
//the police will not question the editors who are writing pro police//
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 15, Dec 2004 3:57:49 PM IST
naaku marala DouTlu puTTe samaacharam andistunnaaru.
aa nakkiran patrika eDiTaru gaaDiki oka vishayam telusO ledo...adi mEkap siDi no kaadO telusukO vachchane vishayam teliyadaa....oka bootu sinimaa loni evari mukhaannaina eDiT cheyyavachchu ani teliyadaa....
eDiTaru gaaDu nirdaarinchukunna paddatulu enTi....
Posted by: Mr. Nagesh Babu Adari At: 14, Dec 2004 11:44:07 PM IST
http://www.thatstelugu.com/talk2004/general/nakkeran.html
Swammy innocent 100%
Once that CD come out of the curtain like gujarath swamy CD whole kanchi matt will be purified.
Posted by: Mr. Telangana Bidda At: 14, Dec 2004 11:18:24 PM IST
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