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General Forum: Religion | | mOKsham (Moksham)..... | |
| mEmu A madhya AsTrEliyA lO unnappuDu vIk DEs lO sAyantram nunDi rAtri varaku Emi chEyAlO pAlupOka vachchE nAlugu ChAneLLalOni tokkalO prOgrAm lu chUstU unDEvALLamu. appuDappuDU manchi sinimAlEsEvADu. alA O sAri "frenCh kis " vESADu. A sinimA chUstU mA AviDa "I sinimA nAku telusu, telugulO eppuDO vachchindi, dAni pEru dongATa. dAnni chUsi dInni tISAru" ani andi.
Posted by: Bahud♥♥rapu Baatasaari At: 5, Jul 2005 6:50:25 PM IST
YOU ARE 200% WRONG .. IF I WERE TO BELIEVE GURU THEN IT WAS THE CHRISTINAS WHO COPIED VEDAS AND CAME OUT WITH GENESIS!
MOSES THEM MODIFID THE CONCEPT OF GOD FROM VEDAS ..
AS IT IS QUOTED
Moses probably did not agree w the concept of ATMAN (man has a soul, but man is NOT a soul all byhimself, which is what hinduism is about)
and therefore, focused more and more on kabalistic theory of ego=soul.
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 5, Jul 2005 6:40:05 PM IST
The plight is of the flowers, the people decorate god with devotion, do pooja, women wear to make themselves beautiful, the next day it is stamped, thrown, left in garbage. It has probably the shortest life span, they do all the good things to humans. Do they attain moksha?
Posted by: DoBoy At: 5, Jul 2005 2:24:40 PM IST
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Posted by: Bahud♥♥rapu Baatasaari At: 5, Jul 2005 1:48:58 PM IST
evariki telisindhi vaalu chepaaru..........kaani one day anitiki answer dorukuthundhi(naaku teliyadhu le aa day).......apudu telisi emi cheyaleru meeru antha.....ha ha ha
Posted by: chakri At: 4, Jul 2005 10:16:53 PM IST
me not leavin before I apologize to my Christian brethern .. I was just countering lunacity by stupidity ... I do respect the other religions and treat them at par with My own!
I have taken enough care not to insult any religion But do have my apologies (Until Jaji posts her BS again) if you find any of my posts offensive!
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 4, Jul 2005 8:34:07 PM IST
A MESSAGE TO MURTHY GARU..
SAAR .. MEERU KALAATAPASVI VISHWANATH LEVEL LO CLASS ANSWERS CHEBITHE IKKADA BURRALAKI ARTHAM KAAVANDI ..
VEELLAKI ARTHAMAYYEVI .. NAA LAANTI E.V.V. SATYANARAYANA TYPE LOW I.Q. "MASS .. MASS .. MASS" .. ANSWERS!!!!
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 4, Jul 2005 8:27:21 PM IST
Ivaaltiki ee Dose chaalanukunta .. I'll be back with my crap when Jaji posts more Bullshit!
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 4, Jul 2005 8:20:14 PM IST
This is the Charge of a Hindu called Guru against OT Genesis, countering Jaji's postulates
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Anyway, that book BRIHA Upanishad had info, left "on Geneaology was very interesting" as it is also found in the very first book 1 of MOses, under OT Genesis I. The very same pattern of putting down the ancestry line by line. I mean the writting style or how they came up w the same idea!
Briha talked about the "big bang"aka "SABDHA" theory which was later stolen like everything else by the biblical and scientologist here to include in their book!
In Briha U. it was indicated as the "greatest sabdha" that made the world to move around setting stage for BRAHMAN's creation of species and evolutionary process!
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They copied the same under OT genesis I. GRRRR!
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Surprised? don't be. There was no aryan invasion at all. Period. It is the other way around.
You see the book of Moses, Genesis I under Old Testament is just a
continuation of what was the last sloka of Briha Upanishad.
I was reading it today, in sanskrit and was amazed how it goes about telling "lineage and ancestry" in it, just like it is mentioned in
OT first chapter on Genesis I.
It says: so and so sage ws the son of so and so sage etc; exactly the same way it is written in bible under OT. jews and catholics follow book I of Moses.
even Protestants I believe they do.
Here is the point I am trying to say now.
May be those hindu Rishis had a disagreement or were forced to move towards west for some unknown reason soon after that Briha last chapter. This mind you happenned way before those infidels moved down to India in 320BCE.
There was NO aryan invasion.
ARYA tribes were predomnantly only Hindus of vedic times.
That is documented w swastika symbol etc in "Gopalathapani
Upanishad".
What might have happenned was soon after Briha U. period,
people moved westward bound, like I said for several reasons. jesus and prophet md formulated new religions soon after judism was done by Moses. Moses probably did not agree w the concept of ATMAN (man has a soul, but man is NOT a soul all byhimself, which is what hinduism is about)
and therefore, focused more and more on kabalistic theory of ego=soul.
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 4, Jul 2005 7:56:20 PM IST
For a long time, Harvard University Prof. M. witzel has been a strong proponent of Aryan Race Theory. But the following article by him shows that the increasing evidence against this theory has even made him change.
Madan
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Michael Witzel, Department of Sanskrit & Indian Studies, Harvard University:
http://www.infinityfoundation.com/ECITmessagesframeset.htm
The Indus Valley civilization was the largest scale civilization among all ancient civilizations in the world, covering the whole northwest of the South Asia, including the plains of the Indus, its tributaries, and the surrounding areas (stretching from eastern Afghanistan to Delhi, from the Himalayas to the Indian ocean, and from Baluchistan to Gujarat). It was thus significantly larger than the civilizations west of it, and it also was significantly more advanced and technologically more skilled in many ways.
For instance, water management and other infrastructure in the cities was far ahead of other places;and fayence beads were more developed than anywhere. Such items are detailed in a recent comprehensive summary by one of the two project leaders excavating at Harappa. (Kenoyer, J. M. Ancient Cities of the Indus Valley Civilization. Oxford: Oxford University Press. 1998.)
The transition from hunting and gathering to agriculture in the Indus Valley is now dated about 7000/6500 BCE, based on excavations by the French scholar Jarrige. Agriculture developed more or less at the same time everywhere from Egypt, Palestine, Mesopotamia, Turkmenia, Afghanistan and the Indus. An interesting point is that the Vedic word for 'wheat', 'godhuuma', and the Dravidian 'godi' have West Asian relatives: 'gantuma', 'hant', 'kent' etc.
Scholars are now certain that Harappa was an indigenous civilization, and not one imported from anywhere else. Indigenous early writing at Harappa is now attested already at 3300 BCE, that is, at the same time that Egyptian and Mesopotamian writing developed. There was mutual influence and trade between the Indus and Greater Iran and Mesopotamia - distinct Indus seals have been found in ancient sites in Israel, Iraq, and the Persian Gulf.
Regarding the previous view that Aryans 'invaded' India, this is now challenged by recent findings in archaeology and textual studies. It would not be an authoritative claim that any such 'invasion' happened, even though the actual process of cultural development and/or transfer is still unclear. A more detailed study of South Asian genetic data will probably help. A new book in press by Edwin Bryant (currently at Harvard), takes the position that there was no invasion or immigration into India by foreign 'Aryans'. Enormous pioneering developments were made indigenously in the Indus area, which is not to exclude the possibility of outside influence, but the nature and magnitude of this influence was much smaller than previously believed.
It seems clear now that the Vedas were entirely composed in India, not in Central Asia as sometimes conjectured. Vedicists now stress that the term "Aryans" in the Vedas referred not to a 'race' but to members of a particular culture that was already indigenous in northwestern South Asia by the time the earliest Vedic texts were composed.
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 4, Jul 2005 7:49:42 PM IST
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