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General Forum: Religion | | bhagavadgeetakunna prayOjanaMgurimchi praSnalu | |
| Right knowledge as well as the depth of the knowledge is important.
Analysis is more important.
Above all while seeking knowledge "balanced mind " is important.
I'M DISCUSSING ABOUT MAN'S NATURE
Whether God gives or not
But Man should not desire more.
How the last two points are contradicting?
Results are never in our hands.
To do the duty you have to select a path .
If the path (in order to ful fill your duty) is the wrong path, then the consequences of that path is to be faced by the man himself.
(Obviously a negative path gives you more restlessness in mind.
And a positive path gives you more peace .)
arjanuDu tana kshatrIya kartavya nirvaahaNalO chanipOyina tana baMdhuvulani chUsi tana valanE chanipOyaarani baadhapaDakUDadani kartavya nirvaahaNa lO vachchE ( this more important) RESULTS( not consequences )nI baadhyata kaadani cheppaTaanikE aayana aa SrI kRishNaparamaatmuDu "chaMpEvaaDani ni chaMpiMchEvaaDani nEnu ani cheppaaDu.(idi yuddhamu jarakkamuMdu)
nEnu annadi gItOpadESamu poMdina arjuna guRiMchi.( after hearing 'Gita') ani vraasaanu.
rEpu oka gUMDaa vachchi oka manishi ni chaMpi chaMpEvaaDu chaMpiMchEvaaDu nEnu kaadu A paramaatmuDE aMTE saripOtuMdaa?
alaagE pOlisu,cOrTu kUDaa tana Da Siksha vEsEdi vEyiMchEdi aa bhagavaMtuDE aMTE saripOtuMdaa.
The sayings of Gita are duty bounded principles (karma yOga sidaaMtaalu)True man can realise ITS essence.
(ArjunuDu(manishi) pralObhaalaki lOnayyi tana kartavyamu tappinappuDu ichchina saMdESamu.)
The two special characterstics of Gita are
1.Reconciliation of the different paths of dharma
2.Work without desire /attachment.
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 6, Jan 2006 1:06:30 PM IST
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 5, Jan 2006 3:43:43 PM IST
// Your perception of God and my perception of God is different. //
which is correct knowledge is more important.
//I never consider God as some object who gives me whatever I need,or whatever He feels--right from "moksham" to "physical desires". //
whether you desire or not all this is given by Him.
// He is who I can find within me as well as in every being //
antarbahiSchatatsarvam vyaapta naaraayaNa sthita@h
He is not only in you and everybeing, but also in all matter in the world (viSvam ) whether living or non living.
// From Whom all beings are projected,in Whom all live,unto Whom they all return;that is God. //
What is the meaning of projection?
bimba pratibimbam laaganaa? lEka aabhagavantuDE I ruupaalannI tIsukunnaaDanaa?
' bahava@h purushaabrahman~ utaahO Eka Evatu
naitadichChanti purusham Ekam kurukulOdvaha
anTE okaDE purushuDani cheppakUDadani KanDinchi yunnaaru -- mahA bhAratam lO
EkaEva hari@h puurvam hyavidyaavaSata@h svayam anEkObhavati hyArAt aadarSa pratibimbavat
Evam vadanti EmuuDhaa@h tEpiyaantyadharam tama@h
bhagavantuDE yajNjaanamu valana anEkulugaa aguchunnaaDani cheppu vaarini muuDhulaniyu, andham tamassu (GhOraatiGhOramaina narakamu ), punaraavRutti lEnidi, pomdudurani maHAgaruDapuraaNamu, brahma kaanDamu renDava adhyaaya mandu cheppabaDi yunnadi
// He never related the deaths of his own people to God or to himself.(after hearing 'Gita')He never related the victory to himself or anybody.That should be the real nature of the man //
and
// Whatever path we opted it is we have to face the consequences.And it depends on your stamina of mind/body to face them //
are contradicting.
SrIkRushNuDu arjuninitO I bhIshma drONaadulandaruu naa chEta champabaDi vunnaaru, nIvu nimitta maatruDavu ani cheppenu kadaa!
" naaham kartaa hari@h kartaa@h tatpuujaa karma chaaKilam "
aachEyinchEdi bhagavantuDE. jIvuDu kaadu.
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 5, Jan 2006 6:18:09 PM IST
tapassu aMTE a practice of yOga/meditation ani vraasaanu.
(meditation /tappassu/---aMTE concentrating on spiritual matter.)
ikkaDa okadaani mIda aMTE---bhagavaMtuDu
Your perception of God and my perception of God is different.
Your idea of God and my idea of God is different.
I never consider God as some object who gives me whatever I need,or whatever He feels--right from "moksham" to "physical desires".
My idea /perception about HIm is
He is who I can find within me as well as in every being.From Whom all beings are projected,in Whom all live,unto Whom they all return;that is God.
It is our turn to look towards him.It is our struggle to reach Him.It is our knowledge to know Him.Dont relate our happines,misery to Him
All these religions,rituals in the name of God is to reach Him ,to concentrate on Him,to know Him not to fulfill our physical desires.
we have opted for God or wealth or man or power it is our choice,our knowledge,our interest,our desire.
Take Arjuna and Duryodhana.
Arjuna had opted only Him(krishna) inorder to do his kshatriyaDuty.Helost his son and many more dearers in the war. He never related the deaths of his own people to God or to himself.(after hearing 'Gita')He never related the victory to himself or anybody.That should be the real nature of the man.
Whatever path we opted it is we have to face the consequences.And it depends on your stamina of mind/body to face them.
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 5, Jan 2006 4:43:43 PM IST
chErukunnaaDanTE EmiTi? daggaravunnaaDanaa aikyam chendaaDanaa?
okadaanimIdE anTE EmiTi?
tapassu ki yoga/meditation saraina artham kaadu.
mOkshapradaata hari yokkaDE. ' yamEvai vRuNutE tEnalabhyam ' aaSrIhari evarini enchukoni mOkshamivvaalanu kunTE vaanikE mOkshamichchunu
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 4, Jan 2006 4:00:10 PM IST
tapassu( a practice of yoga/meditation)(manasu niyatriMchi,SarIramu adupulO uMchi,okadaanimIdE dhyaanamu peTTi---idi abhyaasamE kadaa)chEsi jIvi tana aatma tO (jIVaatma)paramaatmanu chErukunnaaDani mana puraaNaalalO / SaastraalalO chadivaamukadaa.
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 4, Jan 2006 1:48:58 PM IST
kaani abhyaasamu tO jIvuDu bhagavantuDu kaalEDu
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 4, Jan 2006 10:19:39 AM IST
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 30, Dec 2005 2:17:29 PM IST
//"practice makes man perfect" //
ananagananagaraagamatisayinchuraagamu
tinagatinagavEmu tiyyanagunu
abhyaasam kuusu vidya
I also heard ' perfection is divine'
// Qualities/characters of the persons should be a criteria.//
avunu guNahInuDaina braahmaNuni kanTe guNayuktuDaina SuudruDu mElu
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 4, Jan 2006 10:17:25 AM IST
Posted by: Keerty At: 30, Dec 2005 2:27:33 PM IST
:) nijamu nikkamugaa vakkaaNinchaaru
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 4, Jan 2006 10:09:29 AM IST
ok the Through practice can we substitute it.
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 30, Dec 2005 3:33:26 PM IST
What I understood from deivaadInamu gaaru 's point
mana chEtivELLu swataahaa gaa okkaTigaa lEvu kaani oka daaniki ekkuva value mariyokadaaniki takkuva value ani lEdE.
nEnu takkuva jaatilO puTTaanu tarataraalugaa nEnu aNichivEyabaDDaanu naaku chaduvuvastuMdaa ani anukonivuMTE InaaDu I samaanatvamu vachchEdaa.
vaalmiki,Ekalavya,karNa ambedkar,theresa,Gandhi are the examples to show the mankind that "practice makes man perfect"
Vaarini vigrahaalu chEsi kUrchObeTTi vaareitE chEsaaru,kaaraNa janmulu ani anukOvaTamu kaMTE vaarini aadarSamugaa tIsukoni manaku nachchina field lO
muMduku veLLaTamu uttamamu.
Success or failure should not separate man from man.
Qualities/characters of the persons should be a criteria.
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 30, Dec 2005 3:17:29 PM IST
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