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General Forum: Religion | | mOKsham (Moksham)..... | |
| Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 29, Jun 2005 10:57:09 AM IST
aangla padam vaaDakanDi. daanitO mana telugu lEka samskRutam lO cheppinaTlugaa cheppalEmu. dEva@h anTE telugulO dEvuDu. bhagavantuniki dEva dEva@h lEka dEvOttama@h ani pEru.dEvuLLakE dEvuDu lEka dEvuLLalO vuttamuDu. EdEvuDini araadhinchinaa tadantargata dEvadEvuDu(BhagavantuDE) phalitaanni istaaDu. dInni mIru God or Gods tO cheppagalaraa? sRushTi enduku chEstunnaaDO nEnu mundE cheppaanu. sajjanulu saadhana chEsi mukti pondaDaaniki, migataavaaru vaari vaarikarmala nanusarinchi sukha du@hkhaalu anubhavinchaDaaniki. bhagavantuDokkaDE sarvatantra svatantryuDu. migataavaaLLaki datta svaatantryam vunTundi. oka dhanikuDu vunTaaDu. vaaDi daggara oka baanisa vunTaaDanukondaamu. aabaanisaku svatantryamu vunDadu. kaani vaaDu ahaara sEvanamu, nidraki, kaalakRutyaalu tIrchukODaaniki konta svaatantryamu vunTundi kadaa! alaagE jIvuniki konta svaatantryamu vunTundi. jIvi phalaapEkshatO karma chEstE adi bandhakamavutundi. bhagavadarpaNa buddhitO chEstE bandhakamu kaadu. I yokka chinna datta svaatantryamu chEtanE jIvuDu bandhuDavaDaaniki gaani mOkshamu pondaDaaniki gaani arhuDavutaaDu.
mottam jIvulandarinI mooDugaa vibhajinchavachchu. saatvika, raajasa mariyu taamasa. vIrilO saatvika jIvulakE mOkshaarhata. raajasulu manchi panulu chEstE svargaadi sukhaalu, cheDu panulu chEstE narakaadi du@hkhaalu pondi puTTi chachchi maLLI puDutuu vunTaaru. taamasa jIvulaku nitya du@hkhamu.
bhagavantuDu vaaLLa karmaanusaaram , vaaLLa svabhaavam prakaaram vaaLLa buddhini prErEpinchutaaDu.
bhagavantuni daggara Emundi? annI vunnaayi. Emi lEdu?
bhagavantuDu avyayuDu. lakshmI dEvi nityamukturaalu. akshara. migataavaarandaruu ksharulE naSinchEvaarE. praLayaantamandu lakshmI dEvi bhagavantuni sRushTichEyamani praarthistundi. naaraayaNaa prajaa sRujayEti ani. idi naaraayaNOpanishattulO vundi
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 30, Jun 2005 11:20:16 AM IST
slavation means knowing the truth.You must know what u are.
answer to prashathigaru:It differs from person to person.If u want salvation go for it.If you want to fufil your desire go for it.If you want only God ,go for it.if you want bliss go for it.Whatever is there here or imagined it is the result of our desire.
If there is evil there will be good. if there is negative there is positive.All these are interrelated.
But one thing i always want to tell whatever karma u do here u have to face the consequences come through it.
Certainly a balance mind will help out us from the consequences we have to face.
He who thinks himself free ,free he becomes and he who thinks himself bound, bound he remains.
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 30, Jun 2005 10:37:12 AM IST
We should do everything and we should fulfill all our duties and we shouldn't expect anything in return and accept everything that comes our way. sthitaprajNjata - dEnikI chaliMchakuMDA uMDaDaM aMTE saMtOshaM kaligitE uppoMgipOvaDaM, bAdha kaligitE kRuMgipOvaDaM lEkuMDA uMDagaligitE appuDu mOkshArhulu avutAru manushulu. . One should be detached. Aku mIdi nITiboTTu lAgA
But to me this world is more attractive than god. So I too feel why salvation after all. But can anyone answer my question, like why creation. If the answer is god's will Ayana ishTaM aMTE nEnEmI chEyalEnu. aDagalEnu.
Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 29, Jun 2005 3:56:50 PM IST
Hello UK,
As far as I know, those who get salvation will never be born. As said in the holy books, the spirit that encompasses the whole world is one and the same, but we only feel it as different.
For example, Shirdi Sai Baba proved that HE is present in human beings, animals and HE is different gods etc., Once we attain 'mOksha', we will be one with god.
Few blessed souls will do god's work alike god. For example, Ekkirala Bharadwaja Master garu, Venkaiah Swamyvaru of Golagamudi etc., They appear to the devotees in human form though they leave the physical body, they appear in dreams, fulfill wishes etc.,
2) In which form will we be after getting Moksha?
-- To be frank, we attribute form to god. saguna, sAkAra; nirguNa, nirAkAra ani reMDu rakAlugA dEvuNNi kolustAru. E rUpamulEkuMDA pUjiMchaDaM kashTaM kanuka, oka rUpAnni kalpiMchAru. evaru E rUpamulO pUjiMchinA, bhagavaMtuDu nirAkAruDu, nirguNuDu. kanipiMchEdaMtA Sunyamu. EmI lEnitanamE nijamu aMTAru.
3) Yes. Seeking Salvation is also a wish and it shows that particular person still have wants though he discards everything.
IMHO, When we are left with no desire whatsoever, including that we want salvation, we will get salvation:))
Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 29, Jun 2005 3:49:59 PM IST
Murty gaaru,
2. According to our Hindi Mythology, mOKsham pondina manishi ekkadiki velthaadu...?
Aa mOKsham saadhinchina vyakthi ye roopamlo vuntaadu...?
3. Gnaanaanni Bhakthi ni korukovadam swaardham kaadhu...Kaani mOKshaanni korukovadam swaardhamanipinchukodhaa...Alaa mOKshaanni korukunte jeevitamlO vunna baadhalanu thattukoleka thana swaardham kosam mOKshaanni korukovadame avuthundi kadhaa...?
Posted by: UK At: 29, Jun 2005 12:58:00 PM IST
KSKK, Vinayakam gaaru, Raghu gaaru,
Hahaha...
Edo curiousity kodhi adigaanandi baabu...LOLz
I thought of asking these doubts long long ago, avi ippudu adigaanu...
Deeniki + krotha mrg ki link pettakandi...
Posted by: UK At: 29, Jun 2005 12:40:48 PM IST
http://www.telugupeople.com/discussion/article.asp?id=8012 - God Vs Human Nature
http://www.telugupeople.com/discussion/article.asp?id=8013 - Why Salvation?
http://www.telugupeople.com/discussion/article.asp?id=8014 - With - Without God
Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 29, Jun 2005 11:01:39 AM IST
mUrti gAru, I believe god is one and so I mentioned dEvuDu . HE can be in any form, one should see all gods in the form of god that they like. That is what I suppose.
Regarding Salvation, nannu chAlA kAlaM nuMchi I praSna tolichEstOMdi. asalu sRuShTi eMduku chEsinaTTu? pApapuNyAlu eMduku peTTinaTTu? SivuDAjNja lEnidE chImainA kuTTanappuDu, mana AlOchanalu kUDA Ayana prEraNa, saMkalpaMtO kaligEvE kadA. mari inniTiki kAraNamaina Ayana, sukhadu@hkhAlu eMduku kaligiMchAli? asalu sRushTi eMduku chEyali? evaru chEyamani aDigAru? chEsAru, sarE, mari mukti poMdaDAniki prayatniMchaMDi ani eMduku cheppaDaM? EmuMdi dEvuDi daggara?
Please do not suppose that I am completely illiterate with respect to this concept. In the same way, I do not know in complete too. That is why this big question. I don't want salvation. I want to be born again and again. God says to see HIM in every human being and also HE is with us and in us. Then why should I aim for Salvation? Why can't I continue to be here (I mean rebirths) and just have the company of Him?
I know god is omnipotent and omnipresent. In the spur of anger I said like 'He is tired and so he want people to attain Moksha'. I will stand on this statement only until my anger gets cooled and I get answers from HIM.
Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 29, Jun 2005 10:57:09 AM IST
dEvuDu ani vaaDoddu. dEvuLLanTE andaruu vachchEstaaru
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 29, Jun 2005 10:46:30 AM IST
anEka lakshala (84) jIvaraaSulu vunnaayi. okkokka jIvulalO kOTaanukOTlu vunTaayi vITanniTinI niyatrinchaDam lO vaaTiki tagina sukhadu@hkhaalu sariggaa kaliginchaDam entakashTamaina bhagavantunikadi kanureppapaaTulO chEsE samarthata vundi. dEmuDu ani vaaDoddu. aa bhagavantuni Sakti manam gaNimpalEnidi. ataniki Opika lEdanaDam haasyaaspadam
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 29, Jun 2005 10:43:14 AM IST
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