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General Forum: Religion | | prastutam manam chese vigrahaaraadhana valana deivaanni pondagalamaa? | |
| Though we have taken common goal our paths are different.I too agree with you that we have potentialities but we are ignotant of them, that again is due to our individual limitations.If you are confident of what you know and understand, fine and spread it to others ,My Master is not much educated but he has the vision of everything in the creation.He never posed himself as guru but he used to say that he is only a servant ,and that proves his humility in spite of greatness. people who are great in all respects never boast of themselves but is it wrong to express one's gratefullness by those who observe him? is it wrong to tell others what benefits you gained by his teachings and practise so that others too may start to get the benefit?our spiritual state depends on our sanskars of previous birth and no two individuals will be alike for the reason that our minds have been drifted from their original state as otherwise there will not be so many divergent views.Our aim should be to think and act in a way to build hormony but nopt unrest.If we are not successful the mistake is ours but not theirs because we have not projected our mind properly.So ,Raghu u r fortunate in having structured that way with your spiritual progress and i congratulate you but iam still very backward because of my limited knowledge. Any way thanks for a lively discussion and let us try our best to project our views without huting anybody.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 6:14:11 PM IST
please don't take me seriously if you are not in a position to accept my stmts.Yes i too felt in the beginning that this sahajmarg is something away from practicality.Butdue to curiosity ,and interest developed out of some initial changes internally like calmness, and peaceful state of mind i continued and found it to be the most simple and easy method compared to the usual chanting of difficult sanskrit slokas without knowing really what they mean to me.I dont'agree with you because what you know about the system through me is only the tip of ice berg and due to my own limitation i am unable to express some beautiful aspects clearly as my experience in this system is still in the beginning stages.
you have again mistaken my statement that we got seperated from God.
what i mean by that stmt is that our mind which is the part of universal mind Or god got seperated with our birth as human being and we forgot our original state of unchanged condition due to our individual thinking as seperate entity.But again the seperated mind naturally craves to get back to its source and hence this state of restlessness ,chanchalatha, in us.the calmness and peaceful condition reminds us of our original condition and the entire sadhan is for that purpose only. if still iam notclear to you it is better to stop here for a while and continue till u are ready to start again.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 4:55:51 PM IST
faith in guru and blind following are two different conditions.Initially we start with a hope which if covinced turns into faith and later to blind faith.My master says that you try for three months and if you dont find any improvement in yourself then leave this sadhana because there is no use to follow the system without faith and confidence in the guide as doubt is poison to spirituality.since i saw many aspirants who got benefit and elevated in their personal progress which you can gauge with your ordinary senses i too followed him and i have no doubt that i will certainly suceed in my effort and that is why iam exhorting others to try for themselves because it is human nature to learn by imitation for self improvement.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 4:14:11 PM IST
Iam sorry ,Raghu! again you got me wrong!the aim of any sadhana is to merge into the ultimate which is eternal and unchanging immetrial,absolute.we by the irony of our fate have been seperated from our original source which has no limits ,where as we are limited in our own way.
your argument that a dip in ganga will wash our dirt but it never loses its identity .this statement too is not correct because once the river merges into sea it loses its individual existence it is no more termed as river but ocean though it is originally a river. Similarly once you lose your individuality due to spiritual sadhana you lose your identity but not your entity because you go on swimming in that ocean of bliss which is limitless and this swimming in that ocean continues till final destruction which may be according to the needs of the mother nature.so the objective of our spiritual sadhana is to expand and become eternal by changing our state of existence that is even if we lose our body our sadhana continues as long as this creation exists and as all of us know the aim of sadhana is to get out of the cycle of rebirths to get permanent existence.Show me any other sadhana where anybody has promised this state to an ordinary individual.My master (though no more in physical existence)has merged himself in that immaterial absolute and since he mastered the art of this transmission of divine energy scores of disciples all over the world have been benefitted,which is the unique nature of this shajmarg(natural path) and i can confidently say no other system has this unique method of divine transmission through a medium of a living personality by the master even in his physical absence due to human limitations but ever existent due to the mergence in the ultimate .
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 3:55:05 PM IST
thank you !
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 2:09:18 PM IST
I have not objected to others view but i gave my reasons for not accepting their views.!@BUDDHIMANTUDU!
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 2:04:29 PM IST
@BUDDHIMANTUDU , I too felt the same way as u felt before taking up this sadhana, and put hundreds of questions to the person who introduced me to the preceptor(trainer) of this system who is in turn a direct disciple of my Master.But Only after getting all my doubts cleared i took up this practise and iam happy about it but regret for not been able to take up this practise when i was young like u.It is purely personal choise to take up or not but i felt that having benefitted much with the practise i took 13 years to publicly campaign for this system because i was benefitted and wanted others too get benefitted. that is the reason why i have given the procedure here. I posted an article long back but no body seems to have read it .
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 2:00:59 PM IST
Iam not a scholar like you all here who got more knowledge about our scriptures and can quote them ,i am only repeating what i have been stating time and again -all that we do or act connected to the worldly things or materialistic are against subtility which is simple and subtle and the simplicity in this practise itself is the obstruction because we are accustomed do ing things in a complicated way where as god is simple and subtle and can not be seen by naked eye but can be experienced if we too get subtility by getting back to that subtle condition which is possible only through the sadhana as prescribed by Master, and i believe it because i have been experiencing it.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 1:51:23 PM IST
@BUDDHIMANTUDU, if u take thinking as chanting i don't mind but mental repetition is chanting where as keeping thought on divine or thinking on the meaning of the prayer which reminds ur duty is like a switch to light up the thought to get that transformation throgh the transmission from the ultimate force which gives the transformation required in the human body. in other words the thought of divine sparks off the divine light present in the heart and it starts absorbing the divine energy which is all pervading and helps us in self transformation towards self realisation which is god realisation.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 1:08:32 PM IST
Morning meditation ,sitting in a comfortable position , closing the eyes after mentally recollectintg the prayer prescribed by master (Given by Swami vivekananda)-
!o Masrer!
Thou art the real goal of human life
we are yet but slaves of wishes
putting bar to our advancement
Thou art the only god and power to bring us up to that stage.
select same place in ur house where u will no be disturbed for atleast one hour daily at the same time preferably before sun rise,thinking about the thought that there is divine light in your heart.
Sit similarly in the night after u have completed ur daily routine activity and give a mental suggestion to ur self that all the grossness, darkness ,complexiities ,and impurities incuding disease,and dirt from ur back in the form of smoke and vapour but dont imagin that they are going out but simply give the suggestion and sit for atleast half an hour.(cleaning Process which removes all the grossness accumulated by ur action and thoughts during that day as well as ealier impurities in the form of samskars will be going out in the form of vapour and smoke making u feel light(weightless)
again before going to sleep repeat the morning prayer twice or thrice and meditate on its meaning and slowly slip into sleep.
apart from this do every action and thought with the idea that the divine in u but not u is doing or thinking all ur thoughts and actions-onstant rememberance of divine....
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 12:54:32 PM IST
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