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General Forum: Religion | | prastutam manam chese vigrahaaraadhana valana deivaanni pondagalamaa? | |
| Al these like Nava vidha bhaktis are for those who belong to those days goneby. The present genration (iam included)needs proof for everything they come accross and can not be convinced by mere stmts(like me before i took up this practise) and the subtle practise of Meditation on heart thinking of divine light present in it gives us the necessary preparation to have the experience of Divine .
Bhajans are again the physical efforts only and can not give that divine experience i am talking about.Mere chanting may create some pleasure to the senses but real experience can be felt only by meditating on the divine attributes rather than chanting mantras or bhajans.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 12:37:12 PM IST
Raghu, all that we are accustomed with the idols today are again are the images of human imagination only and the dhyana mudra of lord siva (who is again shapeless?!)is no exception.My Master stated that the Divine transmission that is now prevailing in the nature to day from Lord Krishna,is much more effective and powerfull than that of the transmission given to Arjuna during The MahaBharatha time because the present generation can absorb it in spite of their gross ness and ignorance and experience it if they are oriented to it.And i am confidently saying that it is because of that sadhana as prescribed my guru, iam along with many ahbyasis of sahajmarg experience the effect of that transmission which is responsible to the transformation towards subtility.Can you believe it without experiencing it?
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 12:14:55 PM IST
Mr. Raghu, the holy places are again our reminders of Almighty but can not take us to God.The body represents our soul and the bathing in holy waters signifies the cleansing of our past sins/bad samskars so that we get purity of our mind to that extent by literally cleaning our body to which we are accustomed in our daily bathing.That is why I said that all these rituals and idol worships and even bhajans in praise of God - all these are our physical efforts only but only our mind coupled with will force is instrumental to take us to God and nothing else in this material worl helps you except ur own regulated mind can be instrumental /channel to help you reach your chosen goal.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 12:04:07 PM IST
Yes ,Mrs.Anupama!self realisation can be achieved by our spiritual sadhana by adopting right means which are subtle and simple as God himself is subtle and simple, and these rituals and idol worships help you to remind you about God only but can not take you to HIm or you can not have him as long as you are attached or indulged in these gross means .
Mr.Raghu I alrady answered your querry but you also have been carried away with your impressions.Please let me Know where I contradicted my stmts ?
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 11:47:09 AM IST
Mr. Raghu, to my understanding given by my Master, body is the instrument to undergo the effects of our past samskaras , and the senses influence our actions as long as we are body oriented which is but natural due to our attachment to body but once you lose your body consciousness as a result of your spiritual sadhana then you no longer need any material object to remind you about your duties towards your life.so all these rituals and idol worship is needed as long as you are attached to your body due to your ignorence about the goal of your life but once you are covinced about it there is no use of idols or rituals.
Mrs. Anupama i hope you got my reply to your enquiry in this posting.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 11:11:21 AM IST
I don't want to contradict those who are against my views expressed here because whatever i say they get influenced by their impressions about me rather than the essence of what i have been trying to explain.
I can only pray god to shower his grace upon them to realise at the earliest the purpose of their life on this earth since every one who took the human body now might have been passed through a number of lives .The body may be new but the soul is many lives old and the haunting samskars collected in the earlier lives and those that havebeen accumulated in this life so far block their vision to reality and my effort is only to remind them about their potentialities and be a fellow traveller to complete our journey together towards the immaterial ultimate base which is our original permanent residence.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 1, Dec 2003 10:23:46 AM IST
The discussion is about spiritual smile not the smile over a face.
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 30, Nov 2003 10:49:47 PM IST
It is ur wish Free Pizza! it is like one wants to read and understand shakespear's works without learning alphabets even.first u need to grasp the fundamental view to appreciate the meaning of what has been discussed in here.it is upto u to agree or disagree!
Mrs.Anupama,we can not appreciate the basis of spirituality if we seperate our intellect from mind and which in turn can be controlled by our will force which is the cause of creation.As u rightly pointed out science and technology are the offsprings of man who again is the nature's produce and thus the base of all this entire creation is spirituality which is the immaterial part of humanbody.
Mr.Vijay ,my only argument is that the technology which is the cration of man itself ,blocks the thinking process of man limiting his vision to material objectives ignoring the spirit behind every thing that was crated.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 30, Nov 2003 1:07:19 PM IST
By beaing pleasant and smiling always ,It takes one nearer to god,nearer than any prayer.
Posted by: Mrs. Saila Sarigala At: 30, Nov 2003 9:29:43 AM IST
Mr JP,
If u think seientific advancement hinders the outlook towards life or hinders ur spiritual feelings ..dont use internet or computer to spread spirtuality.. go and search for some other method which doesnt use scientific method.
Posted by: విజయ్ At: 30, Nov 2003 8:02:14 AM IST
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