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oops .. sorry bout the caps .. heheh Srini, ekkadiki vellina paravaledu gaa .. final destination okate :)) ____________________________________________ Sania Mirza was encouraged by her father.But the talent is Sania Mirza's -------------------------------------------- Here, the credit goes to her father too .. and if some one else fails due to onez lack of talent .. onces father definitely cant be blamed. Everyone cant be #1 _____________________________________________ Because you said "special previliges", I have replied to it. ------------------------------------------ Yes I was talking about Previliges here and the equality issues. One who is enjpoyoing special previliges cant ask for equality and previliges would not stop a woman from being molested, the best example being the IPC section 498B, which is being grossly misused by women _____________________________________________ Then why will the US have "The Blacks Act"?Giving reservations to woman itself is the drive. --------------------------------------------- As I mentioned before, the Govt is using reservations as a means to pamper the underpreviliged sections of the society, since it lacks will and resources to uplift them in real sense. A hungry man needs to be taught how to earn food ... he shouldnt be fed perpetually. What women need is the basic ground level encouragement and support fron the society ( Both males and females) to compete with males and beat them .. not reservations! And by the way reservations have always been a political ploy .. they never served their purpose. _____________________________________________ It was there from the ancient times and it is there even in the present rules.But men are not allowing woman to utilise this rule.This is the only problem and that is why we are pointing out. -------------------------------------------- This is only a practice and never a law. There is a lot of difference between practices and laws. I might help a relative of mine who is in need out of my affection for him/her

Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 9, Dec 2005 8:50:28 PM IST
1.This is precisely what I have been talking about! Both men and women face failures .. while men either give up or improve themselves, the women would blame the men for their failures without any attempt to correct themselves _ _____________________________ Example.Sania Mirza was encouraged by her father.But the talent is Sania Mirza's and not her father's.Again another girl might not have been encourged and stopped by her father.Then she may or may not be so much talented, but definitely her father has stopped her. ------------------------------ 2.Protection is definitely needed - but definitely not previliges. And the whole issue here is about Gender equality but not Sexual Harrassment. The two issues cant be clubbed any day! ________________________________ You cant ask for equality when you want special previliges in public like a man getting up to offer you a chair, or a man saying "after you" when both of you enter an elevator _______________ Because you said "special previliges", I have replied to it. ------------------------------ 3.This is the biggest illusion one can ever have. Reservations never helped anyone so far in the last 60 years. What women is not reservation -- they need support at the ground level and they need to have the drive within themselves to get there. ____________________________ Then why will the US have "The Blacks Act"?Giving reservations to woman itself is the drive. ----------------------------- 4.It was never a right. You always can refuse to help your divorced/unmarried sister or daughter (May God forbid such a situation) and nobody can force you to do it. _____________________________ It was there from the ancient times and it is there even in the present rules.But men are not allowing woman to utilise this rule.This is the only problem and that is why we are pointing out.

Posted by: Brenda James At: 9, Dec 2005 8:39:35 PM IST
aenTi malakoo peddagaa arustunnaTTunnaavu, Taapik ekkaDiko^ veLLipo^to^ndaa? :)

Posted by: Mr. Srinivas Turlapati At: 9, Dec 2005 8:35:09 PM IST
IF WOMEN ARE BEING TEASED OR MOLESTED, THE OBJECTIVE OF THE CRIMINAL IS TO GET SOME SEXUAL FAVORS FROM THE WOMAN -- NOT TO STOP HER FROM PROGRESSING OR NOT DUE TO MALE CHAUVINISM. BUT THE TOPIC UNDER DISCUSSION IS ABOUT A WOMAN'S RIGHTS ... NOT THE CRIMES PERPERTRATED ON WOMEN .. GOSH!!!!

Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 9, Dec 2005 8:18:21 PM IST
lolllllllllll investigation and medical examinations ----medical examinations prove the act is done -- it dosent say consent or no consent and what wrong info am i spreading -- i am not quoting instances cause i dont wanna name any body but this case abt dogs is reported from delhi hyd chennai bangalore and few more cities in india and ---- and takle a shot quite afew cities all over-- check arnd where ever u live u might find some cases from there too

Posted by: Mr. bhashyakara sastry cherla At: 9, Dec 2005 8:12:14 PM IST
Will you please elaborate it further, like how many instances you can quote wherein women have done well in our society. Also, why reservations should not be there for women. Posted by: KS Kiran Kumar At: 9, Dec 2005 1:49:38 PM IST _________________________ A good question.

Posted by: Brenda James At: 9, Dec 2005 8:07:33 PM IST
The success in a woman is completely her own image and personality.The failure in her may be because the man stops her from exposing her image and personality _____________________________________________ This is precisely what I have been talking about! Both men and women face failures .. while men either give up or improve themselves, the women would blame the men for their failures without any attempt to correct themselves ---------------------------------------- It is because of eve teasing/molestation only protection for woman is needed or the previlige as said by you. __________________________________________ Protection is definitely needed - but definitely not previliges. And the whole issue here is about Gender equality but not Sexual Harrassment. The two issues cant be clubbed any day! ------------------------------------------- Reservations for woman is to bring up them in the society ___________________________________________ This is the biggest illusion one can ever have. Reservations never helped anyone so far in the last 60 years. What women is not reservation -- they need support at the ground level and they need to have the drive within themselves to get there. ------------------------------------------- The unmarried, divorced or desserted females were always having the right to be looked after by her parents or her brothers from the ancient days to till this date. ____________________________________________ It was never a right. You always can refuse to help your divorced/unmarried sister or daughter (May God forbid such a situation) and nobody can force you to do it. --------------------------------------------- Then why there are several news reports that woman have been harrased by the male in employmment places, rapes, etc.? _____________________________________________ Once again -- straying from the main issue.. We are talking about equal rights -- not gender-based harrassment --------------------------------------------- Females are being stopped by their male relatives only from their progress ____________________________________________ Since when Sister-in-Law and Mother-in-law have become males? :))

Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 9, Dec 2005 8:07:04 PM IST
and hey james lady guess i missed out ur comment bout if its consent its not rape --- exactly --- but what happens after the consent she cries RAPE--- how do ya prove its not with consent and hey we aint talking abt cases with minors -- those criminals should be hanged male or female

Posted by: Mr. bhashyakara sastry cherla At: 9, Dec 2005 8:03:45 PM IST
but what happens after the consent she cries RAPE--- how do ya prove its not with consent _____________________________ There will be investigations and medical examinations.You cannot simply speak lies.

Posted by: Brenda James At: 9, Dec 2005 8:00:23 PM IST
Posted by: Mr. bhashyakara sastry cherla At: 9, Dec 2005 6:48:32 PM IST ALL THIS WRONG NEWS YOU ARE SPREADING.

Posted by: Brenda James At: 9, Dec 2005 7:55:47 PM IST
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