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Do you believe in Saibaba of Puttaparthi?

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Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 4, Jan 2004 11:54:31 PM IST

Srinivas garu, The case with Rama, Krishna and Saibaba is different. Rama, Krishna are Avataaraas. Baba is an Avadhoota. Gods can only fulfill our desires. But Sadguru gives/helps/guides us to Moksha.(For a learned person like you, I need not say all these things). Sadguru, More than God. HE proved that HE is the manifestation of everyone, Rama, Krishna, Maruthi, Allah, Jesus, Venkateswara. HE never needs a successor. // becoz he himself doesnt like satya sai. bcoz by the time he wrote that book , he had already reached a level in wisdom - it is not applicable for people like us// These two are contradictory statements. Also for your kind information, many of the followers of the person whom you know well, of whom you are attributing personal feelings towards others(ridiculous. A person who sees BABA in everyone, do and cannot have personal antagonism. He only condemned the point that - Sathya Sai is a successor of Shirdi Sai), found it. They are not men of standards. They are like us only. Only because of belief and the wisdom attained through Parayana, they could identify whether a person is Godly man or not. Example, Pesala Subbaramaiah gaaru Venkaiah Swamy avadhootenani telusukogalagadam. I want to quote an example. The Person did not give alms to a beggar who is roaming in the guise of Shirdi Baba. When a follower questioned him why he behaved so preaching that we should see Baba in everyone. He replied something. I can't remember the exact lines. Hope you know it well. ---- NTVodu garu, Bharatam lo andaroo goppavaarenandi. aayaa characters ni malign chese vuddesyamemee ledu. kaakapote aa position lo, aa situation lo, how vulnerable they are anedi, manaku example cheppadame. Nijaaniki mana puraanallannee manaku yelaa undachu, yelaa undakoodadu ani cheppe neeti sootraale kadaa. Yemantaaru? Yekalavyudantati manchi aadarsa sishyunni pattukuni meeru, atanni yevaru insert chesaaru ani chikaaku padtunnaarante, it is strange. shocking.

Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 6, Jul 2003 10:06:51 AM IST

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Posted by: Mr dyvadhinam yaddanapudi At: 29, Jun 2003 8:07:40 PM IST

"So, Shiridi Baba never existed in flesh & blood and never born/died?" HE existed in flesh and blood. But HE is not born and not dead too. HE is an Ayonija. No one knows about HIS parentage. Even the birthday of Shirdi Baba conducted by some people is just humbug. If anyone who read the Leelas of Baba, can understand it. Coming to the death, HE just left the physical body. We shouldn't call it 'Death', if people like HIM dies. We should call that they are 'Samadhi chendaaru'.(I don't know how to mention it in English). Shirdi Baba is immortal.

Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 28, Jun 2003 9:49:28 AM IST

Also if anyone has any ambition for Spiritual enlightening or a desire for Moksha, then one needs 'Sadguru' to guide him properly in his efforts. These days finding 'Sadguru' is the critical task with fake gods roaming all over India. The litmus test for any godly person and his divine qualities is one must experience Peace in his presence. Mind should calm itself without any thought from our side. If anyone can experience it before some person, then he is a God. If people can experience that sereneness and peaceful state of mind in the presence of Shri Sathya Sai Baba, then he might be god.(to them). For us, Hindus, lot many gods are there. But as we believe, We can feel HIM in the incarnation we believe in. Even when I visit other temples, I just chant the name of Shri Shirdi Sai Baba. So I neither believe nor disbelieve Shri Satya Sai Baba. But the killings in his Ashram did send a doubtful note to all non-believers and neutrals. I don't know what believers can answer for such incidents. Coming to the question whether he is God or not, what I feel about him is, he is doing good to the people, that's all. But I strongly condemn the point that 'Sathya Sai Baba is the successor of Shri Shirdi Sai Baba'. Successors are only required to mortal men. But Shirdi Baba is at a distance of a 'call' to HIM for anybody. So HE never need a Successor.

Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 28, Jun 2003 7:40:06 AM IST

I want to answer some of the questions about my belief on Shirdi Sai Baba. It is not the matter that someone is whether our contemporary or not. If your mother is alive to you and you experience her love each and every second, do any one of you go to some other woman and try to search for motherly love in her? It is the same with Shri Shirdi Sai Baba. HE is present. HE gives Darshan to his devotees still and HE will for ever. So why we need to go to someone else? So there is no question of a successor to HIM. Coming to Shri Sathya Sai Baba, I saw him twice when I went to Blr. We can respect him. It is a personal feeling and based on one's experience, one may feel anything. Even a man is not good for all. If he is good for one, he may behave equally bad with the other. So it is based on personal experiences. Whatever it may be, there is no point if we just go on asking for boon. Whomever you believe, we should follow the Ideals laid by them. We should do good. Then only it is a true devotion. We can't force anyone to believe someone or to convert ourselves. Ofcourse we can share our invaluable experiences with God.

Posted by: Ms. Prasanthi Uppalapati At: 28, Jun 2003 7:27:16 AM IST

Namasthe, I have met Sathya Sai Baba [ very close quarters sitting next to him] more than an hour at Calicut Regional Engineering College, Chattamangalam in 1963. I felt he is a very nice person. He did not show any miracles at that time. Women and children were crying and crowd was chanting "baba" "baba" He spoke but nobody heard what he said. I have met many who described to me as if he is GOD and I have also met people who condemned him as DEVIL. Who is he? Some where in between GOD & DEVIL... What I mean is he is a very good man doing good things to society. We do not have to worship him. At the same time we have no right to condemn him. On my part, I feel like Krishna said: THERE ARE TRILLION MASTERS [GURUS] OUT THERE. WHAT IS LACKING IS A GOOD DISCIPLE. Gurus all around the world are searching for persons who are spiritually awake and as such searching after guru is futile. Gurus need not come in KAVI OR SAFFRON ROBES. Gurus need not talk in SANSKRIT. Gurus may come in three-piece suit or in a beautiful skirt and may talk English or Spanish or Hebrew or Latin or Swahili... http://www.amiahindu.com http://www.udupipages.com/book/hindhu.html

Posted by: Mr. Ed Viswanathan Viswanathan At: 28, Jun 2003 2:01:50 AM IST

Ok long back i remembered one incident in pranthanilayam... i think some shooting and 3 guys died in it.. can u explain me abt me y it happend ..

Posted by: Mr. M.S.Reddy At: 27, Jun 2003 11:29:19 AM IST

Hmmm.... I cannot understand y ppl are arguing in this topic.. Kondariki kondaru nachochu....nachakapovachu..... Sai baba may be gr8 for some ppl and not a good man for some others... If you feel gr8 follow him..if not dont... Strong minded ppl take and make decisons and wont follow others....

Posted by: Mr. M.S.Reddy At: 27, Jun 2003 11:11:17 AM IST

Believe? I recall the Deccan Chronicle event some time back.... Krishna http://alpride.com

Posted by: Mr. Krishna L At: 15, Jun 2003 5:27:20 PM IST

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