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General Forum: Govt. and Politics | | IS Mr. ChandraBabu Naidu Govt GOOD or BAD? | |
| SO our beloved friend says corruption is not a reason for the losses which APSRTC is incurring....well there must be some reason for that right. Iam not criticising our CM s policies or his novel ideas. So we should adopt a village and develop it . Well let me tell you my experience not as an NRI but as a student of law( an year ago) .....
as a part of our curriculum once we went to a remote village to conduct legal awareness camp and after reaching there with much difficulty we were shocked to see not to find a single person there ....the reason was the villagers were asked rather ordered by their leaders not to attend. The so called elected leaders were afraid that they would loose their popularity and subsequently their authority.So we waited there for full 5 hrs and came back with out acheving any thing.
After coming back we din't want to leave that and so we started sending memorandums to the concerned officials to do some thing about that but nothing came out of that. If this is the state of affairs ...then one can imagine what an NRI will face . So there should not be any question of giving accounts as to how money is spent....means the duty of an NRI finishes when he or she hands over a cheque or cash and forget about that or the other option would be to go there personally and monitor eveyting which agian is an impossible task. Expecting an answer for this is definitely not an escapist tendency. Well now a question may arise "who are you to ask this have you every tried to help" well i did during my college days after that also not much financially and we know what we faced.
" Evaro ravalani evaro vostarani eduruchuddam " annadi is a very foolish thing ....we all know that. We should take the first step is also a very good thing .....so we took the first step ( not only first step but many steps) and the result.....nothing. So i don't think its wrong to ask for the account of the money which an NRI is going to donate and this is definitely not escapism.
Posted by: Ms deepa v At: 5, Nov 2001 9:55:37 PM IST
hello all,
Wow! I see a great appreciation for Chandrababu Naidu's Govt! :-)
well, let me make you all aware of somethings.....;here it goes!!
whats the first thing we think about Chandu's govt when compared to all previous govt. Yes the thing is
social reforms.( May be the term is inappropriate... I dont know but I mean all those schemes he introduced). Lets observe
the impact of these on our state.
a) The positive one we can think of and is talked widely here is "direct involvemnet of public in govt activities".Really a
novel idea.
b) The financial effects of this on our state. Somehow unfortuanately many neglect this thing. Forgot about a layman who
doesn't knwo reading and analysing, even we the educated most of the time miss this point. (NOt our fault its media's fault
and particularly a tactian like Chandu is capable of doing "greeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaatt things" :-))
Lets consider point (a) later and let me put forth few things related to (b)
His was the first state to embark on a massive programme of restructuring in accordance with the guidelines of the World Bank
and IMF. His first task as chief minister was to fill the empty coffers of the state treasury. One of the instructions of
the World Bank was to cut subsidies. Naidu increased power tariffs, water rates and bus fares, while there was reduction
in rice subsidy, professional tax and turnover tax on trade was increased.
We can understand him, afterall he is doing all these for a "rapid growth" which needs to take loans from World Bank. (whats
the intrest we have to pay for the loans????? )
here are some figures I can give you related to the intrest we are paying:
A glance at expenditure reveals that the axe of increase in non-plan expenditure fell on social services in 1996-97, from
44 per cent of the total revenue of expenditure to 36 per cent. Along with it loans and grants given to different local
bodies in 1996-97 declined. The internal borrowing's in 1996-97 were Rs 2,792 crore. Around 82 per cent of this was
repayment of principal and payment of interests. Again 93 per cent of receipt of small savings, provident fund and deposits
was used for repayment of principal and payment of interest. Internal debt has increased by about Rs 500 crore every year
since 1991-92. In 1996-97 it was up by Rs 1,000 crore. Because the state had no money it postponed repayment of loans to
the centre six times in 1996-97. To make matters worse Rs 2,140 crore of the budgeted amount was not spent in 1996-97.
It is intriguing that a state under resource crunch was not able to spend even the allotted amounts. The story was the
same for external loans. Loans received have not been fully used.
*****************WHAT IMPACT DOES A FINANCIAL POLICY OF THIS KIND HAVE ON THE POOR OF THE STATE???????????????????
("Hi-tech" CM seems a perfect name for him :-))
Though the education expenditure increased, much of the increase was in higher education. On nutrition and medical health,
areas of concern for the masses, the expenditure was low.
He is consciously pro-rich. All his programmes are meant for the wealthy sections of Andhra. For the poor, things have
become worse ever since Chandrababu Naidu initiated his reform programmes. (unfortunately our state has poor in majority)
Naidu no doubt has emerged as the most visible chief minister and the darling of the rich because of this pro-rich policies.
His concept of development is limited to cities and towns. The construction of flyovers does not provide food, clothing and
shelter to the poor. It makes the rich contractors richer and provides better infrastructure facilities to capitalists and
traders. The huge amounts spent on industry oriented infrastructure are normally at the cost of rural development. The
closure of several state level public sector undertakings has increased unemployment.
Privatisation and liberalisation are mantras of the global capitalists whom Chandrababu Naidu has been sensitive and
welcoming. Markets do promote efficiency and serve the consumers who have the requisite purchasing power. The fact is
markets eliminate physically all those who do not have purchasing power. That is why we have witnessed suicides of farmers
in Chandrababu Naidu's state.
So this is the financial policy of your dear CM.
and about the schemes in detail................later!
well, I did promise that we will look into (a) and by now you must have felt that we cant afford "a wonderful financial policies" like this to get the (a). See, I really like the idea of participation of public but the implementation is throughly bad!!!! Can our Govt do this?? and can be remain unaware of these hard facts??? Think !!!!
Enjoy!!!!! :-)
Posted by: Ms Samatha G At: 5, Nov 2001 9:09:10 PM IST
Hi
I don't know who this anonymous user is but you seem to be a great escapist why because we all know not only in a.p every nook and corner of the world there is corruption.. even in the great America(in your opinion). Corruption is the thing which we all can solve together it's not the matter of single person.
Why we have to blame CM for that. He already told that if really NRI's interested to develop our state please adopt one village as a child and that NRI has every right to implement all his ideas and thoughts himself in this there is no govt hand nor any politician hand. So there is no question of corruption or accounts arose here I think my beloved friend also knows this.
I am not telling that whatever our CM is doing well but at least he is trying his level best to do good for our State. As educated people we must support him and if you have an intention of doing good to your state why don't you also take part in his works.
I strongly object my beloved friend’s opinion that APSRTC strike & loss of RTC is mainly because of corruption. My sincere advice for my friend is before making any statement please go through the facts.
Mr.Murali’s idea is very good because AP needs financial backup right now. So NRI's has to come forward to their best.
“Evaro vastaranai edo chestarani eduru chudatamu kante” we have to take the first step when we have good intention to do any thing.
I will discuss more later.
PS : If it hurts you I am very sorry for that (anonymous user).
Posted by: Ms Madhu T At: 5, Nov 2001 10:54:58 AM IST
The idea of helping our CM is not actually bad .....but there is no guarantee that the amount will be utilised properly.
Go to any Government office in AP, the prominent thing which we see is corruption. That is the reason why the APSRTC which is considered as one of the largest organisation in India is facing losses.
So let our respected CM take some stringent steps to completely route out corruption and let him make the officials give a detailed account of how they are utilising the tax paid by the people. Unless people have confidence that the money which they are going to donate will be utilised properly, they won't come forward to donate.
So i think all these things should be considered before going ahead with the idea of financial helping.
Posted by: Ms deepa v At: 5, Nov 2001 10:21:12 AM IST
Hi Ms Madhu,
I accept with ur views "The current Administrator of AP" is relatively good and has forethought about our state. Being part of youth, lets encourage all his best ideas to implement. Ofcourse, he needs a financial backup to do all these.
"WHY CANT WE, THE NRI'S BACK HIM MORALLY, FINANCIALLY?"
Any thoughts
Murali
Posted by: Mr. prasanth N At: 5, Nov 2001 9:50:24 AM IST
Hello Mr.Murali
First of all I must appreciate your interest towards your home state though you are are in a foreign country.
Before going to deep discussion about our CM, let us discuss frankly about our politics. We all know that CM alone cannot handle any issue or cannot forward the state in any matter without the help of other people.
So in my opinion people must know what kind of change / improvement they want for themselves. That is mainly depends upon youth.
I hope our present CM is relatively good than other politicians, because atleast he is implementing 20% of his thinking ideas.
As far as your question goes it is some what vague.. why don't you put your question directly.
Anyway we will talk more about this issue later.
In my consideration our CM is a good administrator than a good politician.
have a nice day
Posted by: Ms Madhu T At: 5, Nov 2001 7:41:54 AM IST
So..
What exactly we want? Who has to rule. For whom u(the people who r thinking similar to u and u) r looking for, as CM or administrator of AP?
I stressed the word "relatively". Well, can u analyse the same facts relatively. As u pointed out, the process is slow.....right!
Are u expecting some instant results?
Now coming to the main question, he has given 2 options. lets take 4 more options..
Relatively good, Relatively bad, acceptable, needs improvement..
Is it possible for u to chose?
Any thoughts...........
PS: I am an admirer of developed/developing Andhra. Not the admirer of Babu
Cheers
Murali
Posted by: Mr. prasanth N At: 3, Nov 2001 2:58:50 PM IST
if you can show people who are very positive to the govt I can always show a good amount of people (which you might not have considered) who are against it.
well, this always goes on. people are there on both sides. If you can show people who were revolutioned by the shemes you mentioned I can show people who really are disappointed about them because they are bought for high intrests ( I can give you figures too but not now), how they are used as tools to "cheat" innocent people with advertisings etc etc.... ( If you can look the dates when some schemes like "giving tools for free " are started, how much of it was implemented till what date adn why the process slowed down after some time...(incedentally just after elections) etc etc.. there are lot more facts that are revealed).
so what I want is, what solidly has happened. adn gonna happen. True some are long term goals; but we have to look into practicality of them too. (taking into consideration the numbers). I belive it will be a proper estimation of a govt. Its just not a simple issue to go just consider some things and leave others.......its Govt- a very serious topic adn not to be judged by some prejudice.
okay! I will try to project them soon if I find time, though I cant promise.
Posted by: Ms Samatha G At: 3, Nov 2001 1:49:52 PM IST
Hi all..
Do u mean to say that the GOOD about Chandrababu is just an image created by media. Well...u r right in the case of justifying/proving a statement. As our current system of taking the reliable facts is loose. Lets not talk about media....for the time being.
Lets go out of our surroundings and consider the views of people, u hear about atleast Janmabhumi or Sramadanam. Well, leaving the motto behind these movements, these works have taken a change in common man's mentality in AP as they have to work on their own to go further in development process. I dont know about you, for me it is a kind of revolution in Ordinary people, who are backbone to this society.The people who know to me, 99% of them accepted that the Administration of present Govt is relatively good.
cheers
Murali
Posted by: Mr. prasanth N At: 3, Nov 2001 1:21:04 PM IST
Hello all and Mr Venkateswara Rao,
Can anyone decide upon whether a government is good/bad or efficeint/inefficient (or what ever you may like to call) without knowing the facts??????? Reliable factsss! We cant just pass statements that this government is good or this is bad. One HAS to reason it. prove it. and for proof one must be able to show reliable info. Say, the improvement in various aspects that is obverved after a particular government came or somethign of that sort. Without nothing of that how can you say Chandu is good or YSR is good! :-)
Well, what I want is what are the state graphs in various aspects. (its a straight forward question adn very much related to the topic as without that its difficult to analyse the situation). I read paper but papers reading Eanadu is different for reading Vartha or DC. THats why I stressed on realibility of facts.
Posted by: Ms Samatha G At: 3, Nov 2001 12:44:23 PM IST
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