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General Forum: Govt. and Politics | | Chandrababu: Image and Reality | |
| I partially disagree with you Bobbili Puli.
Yes, AP is better just because of TDP. We got our own recognition as Telugu people, came out of the shadows of "sambaris" or "madarasis". Hyderabad is beautiful. AP got developed. But, what happened for the last 2-3 yrs(or a bit more)? What happened to Raitu Bazaar concept? What about the grabbing of money given to the farmers as compensation for land acquisition by local politicians? What about high level and low level corruption? May be, some 14 yrs ago, during Cong's rule, there was less corruption(or it was not highlighted by press during those days), but NCB's final days' rule was filled up with corruption. I agree, he brought up DWACRA. Ignored farmers. 20 paise a basket of tomatos!?! What a shame? And we were buying them for 2rs a kilo. Can't he do any thing? He didn't wanted to. Why?
I'm not expecting any good to be happening now, I'm not that fool, with this goonda YSR. He himself supporting Ananta's issues, how can you say that he can't maintain L&O in one district? He doesn't want to. People wanted to warn any govt, if they were ignored, they won't elect them again. Thats the only reason for NCB's fall. Its not the greatness of YSR or Cong. Simple.
Posted by: Bahud♥♥rapu Baatasaari At: 22, Sep 2004 10:07:50 AM IST
BB, you are mistaken. Nobody can beat congress in Corruption.
Sare ippudu Goonda YSR gaadu emi peekutunnado. Vaadiki oka district lo law and order maintain cheyyatam chetha kaavatledhu. vaadiki asalu maatlaaddam raavatam ledhu.
State alaa avvataaniki kaaranam congress rule for 47 years. India lo a state ni kooda
antha kaalam congress rule cheyyaledhu. TDP undhi kaabatti atleast konchemu better gaa undhi. lekapothe Bihar ni daati poyedhi ee paatiki.
Ippudu congress emi peekutundho mari India lo.
Reddy gaallaki kullu CBN rule chesaadani.
But still he is the best CM India has ever got. Kullu naa kodukulu oppu koru.
Posted by: Mr. Bobbili Puli At: 21, Sep 2004 11:26:17 PM IST
Horoscope? What is it?
Is it the same thing that told Mrs (of whom) Lakshmi Siva Parvathi, that NTR's (new) son will rule India and hence, she wanted to have a kid to her by NTR?
Mrs Lawyer, you are right, corruption. His corruption was many times greater than Congress' corruption, hence people curbed him. I agree. And I partially agree, with Hasa Chandra, about the points what he's mentioned. He has touched the positives of NCB, but not negatives of his rule. And this -ve was very much higher over +ve, hence people got frustrated and drawn him down. I still pity NCB, but he deserves it, for what ever he did in his last days' of rule.
Posted by: Bahud♥♥rapu Baatasaari At: 21, Sep 2004 2:31:33 PM IST
Mr Sainath's article explicitly, indicates, how comedy of errors can be.
I really had a doubt that journalists also can stoop or degrade to certain levels, beyond which there can't go anywhere. But now we are experiencing it.
Boss, within India, we have certain value for Hindu Magazine, we admire it, rate it as no 1, but it doesn't mean that every Tom, Dick and Harry writing there is a "BHARATARATNA" and he can use his pen to any extent..or he can critcize the ones like Wall Street General, NewYorkTimes, Time Magazine, Business Week..etc...LOL..they too have little value international arena :-(
Boss, what the international media was praising, was his style of functioning. His innovative schemes, for instance promotion of DWACRA which is a small component of central government's IRDP (Integrated Rural Development Programme), which no previous government has taken care of, including TDP under the aegis of NTR. This gave a lot of financial freedom within a very short span, in allmost all the villages, in every nook and corner of the state.
Another area where he got acclaims, was creation of infrastructure. If you have gone through 19/09's i.e this Sunday's supplement of Deccan Chronicle, that paper has given the impending problem of traffic congestion in twin cities and cited the main reason for that is only the lack of avalability of sufficient infrastructure. This is the area where he has concentrated.
Had he not concentrated on that I am sure, today we would not have been in a position to capitlise on the ITES boom or the expansion of Software sector.
A QUERY??????
If today, a graduate with good interspersonal skills or communication skills is in a position to secure a job within Hyd, what is the ground reason for that?? Without the govt doing nothing, would the companies just come like that.
If they are so, why didn't the manufacturing conercns didn't come??
DONT FORGET THE GREAT DEBATORS OF THIS ROOM, THIS WAS ONE OF THE MAIN CRITICISM OF THE CURRENT RULING PARTY WHILE IT WAS IN THE OPPOSITION??
Infrastructure, in another perspective....You are mentioning about illiteracy.
He has ruled for 9 years and you want him to get rid of the whole illiteracy problem, withing nine years, which his predecessors cannot do in 47 years. HOW IS THIS LOGICALLY POSSIBLE. TRY TO PUT YOUR BRAINS AND PLEASE SEND YOUR SUGGESTIONS TO YSR HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT.
When he started expanding the professional college network, by giving permissions to more colleges, again there is problem there. POLITICS.
Let's say if all the illiterates adn uneducated, gets the primary and secondary education, with 10-15 years, as you wanted to be, then where are you going to the infrastructure for the professional education like Btech or Medicine or others. For which, he has gone with a bit free hand in giving permissions to the colleges. Parallely, if you remember with a positive mind, his govt introduced a couple of compulsory school going schemes for the children . I THINK EVEN THIS WILL BE BLAMED, AS YOU MAY CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE FORCED, BUT AGAIN YOU WANT TOTAL LITERACY.
I have some doubts to be answered??
1) WHY DON"T YOU QUESION COMMUNISTS TODAY WHO BLATANTLY STATE THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN COMPLYING WITH WORLD BANK"S POLICIES IN TUNE WITH CURRENT CM?? AREN"T THE SAME GUYS WHO FEROCIOUSLY FOUGHT ON THE ROADS AGAINST WORLD BANK??
2) THE REASON WHICH WAS HIGHLIGHTED MUCH, FARMERS SUICIDES, IS STILL CONTINUING AT A MORE ACCIDENTAL PACE? MORE DEATHS ARE BEING RECORDED? SURPRISING IN KRISHNA DELTA, WHICH NEVER OCCURED ALSO?
3) WHY IS IT THE GOVERNMENT HILARIOUSLY ENJOYING THE GRUESOME MURDER SEQUENCES IN SEEMA REASON? "JUST BECAUSE FUEDS WERE EXISTING FOR AGES, THESE KIND OF THINGS WERE QUITE COMMON THERE" IS THIS THE KIND OF STATEMENT AN INDIVIDUAL EXPECTS???
As an innocent citizen, I do have this, coz, with much gutz Mr.Sainath has wrote a lengthy article, some others justified it. FINE. But dear all, what has changed from previous govt's era and today????? A BIG QUESTION.. Did anything?? PLZ TRY TO ANSWER THAT...
Friends, Psuedo-intellect is always dangerous, there is nothing wrong in holding opinions, but it is always advisable to have unbiased ones.
Everyone agrees CBN has neglected farmers, he didn't fight against Central Govt in the issue of Almatti, but even today's Govt is doing nothing there. We have to understand the circumstances.WHY???
But, Had CBN built atleast one project either Pulichintala or Polavaram, he would have remained has the finest CMs for ever.
That's where he committed a BLUNDER.
Posted by: Mr. Hasa Chandra At: 21, Sep 2004 1:34:10 AM IST
Chandu,
Here is the hindu link
http://www.hindu.com/2004/07/05/stories/2004070503400800.htm
Vijay,
/*~~~ This line is enough to say that the data they gathered is totally baseless or may be gathered by some illiterate person.*/
Blame the Tata Statistical outline if you arent happy with the figures.
Posted by: Ms. swapna CCCP At: 20, Sep 2004 9:10:53 PM IST
Which state provides latest information and statistics, unless it's computerized?
AP is still finalizing it's voters list. It needs a master file with every data and information and I-link t other departmentd to amend/modify the information.
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 20, Sep 2004 6:10:37 PM IST
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Even Cyberabad’s literacy is behind that of Patna, Ranchi, Bhopal, Indore, Jabalpur and Jaipur.
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~~~ This line is enough to say that the data they gathered is totally baseless or may be gathered by some illiterate person.
Posted by: Vijay At: 19, Sep 2004 11:48:24 PM IST
He is a politician, what else?
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 19, Sep 2004 6:11:19 PM IST
Posted by: Ms. swapna CCCP At: 17, Sep 2004 2:41:37 AM IST
Swapna garu Hindhu article link provide chesthe baguntundemo..
Posted by: Chandu At: 17, Sep 2004 2:28:47 PM IST
Chandrababu: Image and Reality
(Extracts from article in Hindu, July 5, 2004)
P. Sainath
A look at the myth of Mr. Naidu is key to grasping a lot of things. Including the gigantic crisis crippling Andhra Pradesh today. On most indicators, he ran the worst performing State in the south of India for nearly 10 years. Yet the more damage he did, the more his media standing grew. The gap between his image and his record is stunning
No other figure in Indian politics got the kind of press that Mr. Naidu did. The ‘miracle man’. The ‘Generation-Next CM’ and of course, ‘The CEO of Andhra Pradesh.’ A larger than life image held up by huge spending on self-publicity helped this along. Ad-gurus from Mumbai flew in to foster it. Our media lapped it up. And starry-eyed journalists from The New York Times, The Financial Times and heaps of other places, weighed in with their bit.
Take 2002 for instance. Top international journals were scripting the Naidu-namah. Hyderabad was full of their hacks. One of them all but asked the Third World to pray for leaders like Mr. Naidu. That his regime had just chalked up poor growth in agriculture seemed hardly to matter. The image was the thing. When the media dealt with Mr. Naidu, facts were irrelevant. As the founder of Private Eye once said: "Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story." That was the editor of a satirical journal speaking half in jest. Our own editors applied that dictum with real zest and no trace of humour.
In quite a few years after coming to power it became clear that the policies driven by enthusiasm were disastrous for millions of poor people in his State. However, the more he disconnected from the poor, the more the corporate world loved him. He was now the champion of ‘the reforms.’ The darling of international donors.
Endorsements from the World Bank, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton and assorted other billionaires further puffed his image — that of a selfless CEO slaving through sleepless nights to lead his dumb masses to enlightenment. All the evidence to the contrary seemed not to shake this. A few thousand farmers taking their own lives did fray the image for some. But mostly, as is now painfully clear, the media failed the challenge of that issue. Again, a couple of such stories did make the front pages outside the State — after the exit polls.
Even the stories that did appear were shallow. Most reduced the suicides to solely an outcome of drought. A lazy way of dodging the many factors behind them. On the whole, a sloppy sycophancy affected media across the board.
A hard-headed publication like The Financial Times fell in line. (May 2, 2003.) It had no qualms about suggesting: "In a country where lower caste women are locked out of decision-malting, the government of Andhra Pradesh is sponsoring a social revolution." This was happening in "thousands of villages" in the State. This, of Andhra Pradesh, where the panchayats were shut out and destroyed by Mr. Naidu’s schemes. The FT correspondent even found a village where women "who had for generations stayed indoors without voice or influence, now dominate the village square."
The Wall Street Journal saw him as "a model for fellow state leaders." Time magazine declared him ‘South Asian of The Year’ as early as 1999. Newsweek responded by crediting Mr. Naidu with a Ph.D. he does not have.
In the Indian media, the breathless awe and wonder was over the top. Yelling "IT’ and "software" often enough became a substitute for actual performance in those vital fields. Andhra Pradesh did not lead the nation. But media audiences thought it did. The State was not even in the top three. And was slipping in the ranks.
This is also a State whose literacy levels are the worst in the south and lag behind the national average. A glance at the (Tata) Statistical Outline of India would show this: Even Cyberabad’s literacy is behind that of Patna, Ranchi, Bhopal, Indore, Jabalpur and Jaipur. And that’s the rating of Mr. Naldu’s showpiece.
It’s a State where millions of children are outside school. A State that has the largest number of child labourers in the country. And one where close to 90 per cent of rural workers are either illiterate or educated only up to the primary level.
Employment growth saw a drastic decline in the Naidu era. In rural Andhra Pradesh, it was 2.40 per cent per annum in the decade before him. It fell to 0.29 per cent during 1994-2000. This was a worse decline than that seen in the rest of India. The rate of growth of real wages in rural areas fell sharply in the 1990s.
What the media fondly called "one of the fastest-growing States" was really stumbling. The growth of GDP was just around 5 per cent for 1994-2001. Lowest among the southern States. Lower than the national average. Lower than what the same State had posted during 1981-91. Economists C. Mahendra Dev and C. Ravi show that "in the l980s, A.P. was one of the top performing states in terms of Gross State Domestic Product (GSDP) growth. Only three states, Rajasthan, Haryana and Maharashtra, showed higher growth than A.P. in the 1980s." However, this rank sank from number four to eight in the next decade. "Seven states showed higher growth than A.P. in the 1990s." The State was overtaken by Gujarat, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and West Bengal.
This was the one State in the south that showed no improvement in its Infant Mortality Rate (IMR) between the first and second National Family Health Surveys. (Those came out in the early and late 1990s.) Indeed, its IMR of 65 is slightly worse than Bihar (62) on this count.
Small farmers did badly everywhere in the country in the 1990s. But it was in Andhra Pradesh that they committed suicide in thousands. The years of hostile policy still take a toll. The suicides continue in the weeks after Mr. Naidu’s exit. And there is a Kafkaesque touch to his standing up in the State Assembly demanding a decent deal for the farmers.
Through it all, Naidu-worship in the media only grew. With not an iota of scepticism. The media bias of Naidu called him the son of a "poor agriculturist." Or of a "small farmer." Or of a "modest farmer." How the modest farmer and his spouse came to be worth Rs. 21 crores after nine years in power is a mystery no one wants to solve. That’s the figure you’ll find in his poll-time declaration of assets. But no questions. The king could do no wrong.
Posted by: Ms. swapna CCCP At: 17, Sep 2004 0:41:37 AM IST
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