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General Forum: Religion | | God is shapeless, invisible, omnipotent, omnipresent, irrelegious.....U agree? | |
| Absolute GOD is one who is the embodiment of absolute truth.
Absolute God is also Absolute truth is clear simple and consistence understood even by a child
He is Also Absolute love, he does everything in his power to save his Children from destruction, not leave them to pay for the consequences or their fallible efforts.
He is also absolute Justice, he cannot let evil go unpunished, neither can he punish the innocent.
He also has absolute power, create the universe, run the universe.
And Absolute God is above the relative-time. He is omnicient. He not only is above time, he can also control time. This control is manfested in the form of historical events that he says he will do and does them exactly the way he said.
Omnipresent Absolute God is beyond Space, he is present everywhere, nothing is beyond his reach.
Now I agree "Absolute" is a scientific term. Faith can also be affirmed scientifically. And you are right we need to think of these interms or tangible matter. So also God did.
Here is the example I know. You can state any other examples you know.
When He sent his Son Jesus in the Flesh(weight and volume), in approx 3 BC (Time) as a little child born in Bethlehem (Place).
He proved his omnicience by predicting the birth of Jesus Christ's birth place, birth time, and Christs ministry ( healing blind, lame, dumb, deaf, and resurrecting the dead).
He proved his omnipotence thru his Son Jesus Christ by His Miracles.
He proved his absolute justice by not letting our sins go. Ofcourse he spared us and punished his own son for our sins.
Most important He proved his absolute love for us by sparing us from punishment for our sins.
Now when we decide to prove if something is true we look at evidence and witnesses. Truth will have these proofs. And truth doesnt have contradictions. It states only one thing which can be proved from evidence.
Now individual should look at this evidence available and decide the truth. False hood will not have evidence. Ofcourse lack of evidense doesnt necessary prove it as false.
But if event X has evidence of its truth, and Y doenst have evidense doesnt mean it is false.
If the points stated by Y are same as X (truth) then Y is true. Else Y is false. So it is..
Posted by: Mr. Apolo getics At: 29, Dec 2003 7:17:20 AM IST
Of course God is invisible...4 thiz U ppl shud better watch the Movie "Miracle on 34th Street"...Guyz, go N watch the movile ASAP...
Posted by: UK At: 26, Dec 2003 8:32:57 PM IST
End of the Taliban era has begun with BUDDHA statue. Mulla Omar enjoyed the life when Indian Air Lines flight take off from NEPAL and directed to wards Amrithsar while all the passengers are in panic and fear with unknown destination. In Amritsar every one expected a red alert and an attack by our military. It could not happen. We know that Pakistan borders states like Punjab and Rjasthan where trained special suads are there to deal such sort of emergencies. Then this flight was taken to UAE for refilling and brought to "KANDHAHAR" .
Mulla Omar thought something that under the cover he can make terror among the citizens of India. Now it's "F A T E"
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 26, Dec 2003 11:33:28 AM IST
Dear Mr. Vachaspati,
Unless somebody believes in something strongly with their whole heart they wont be ready to give their lives for that. This simply proves that they believe it. When you say "its not true" how do you support that statement?
Whether they are following it or not, the point of the posting is what they are doing it wrong. They can say that their God directed them to do that. I quoted this example to point that, all of us know that there are absolutes. Truth is not relative. We cannot say " Its wrong for me, but Taliban says its right, it is right for him" No! They are wrong. We feel this because God built the knowledge of this absoluteness in us. when we see something we either are offended or pleased. But we tend to ignore this. That which tells us these is built into us. The embodiment of all these absolutes is GOD. Absolute God cannot give contradictions or confusions in doctrines paths and principles. Out of all these contradicting doctrines only one is true and rest are, well, not true. So when we search truth its our duty to search the true path.
Posted by: Mr. Apolo getics At: 25, Dec 2003 11:10:17 AM IST
Miss kodatha adugaku,
Your posting is a bit confusing. koncham vivarincha galaraa?
Please let me know if you find any of my points debatable. I will try to make it clear to the best of my knowledge
Posted by: Mr. Apolo getics At: 24, Dec 2003 10:12:29 PM IST
Dear Friends thanks for the welcome
and
Dear Mr.NTvODU
You are right. we can call our Dad with different name but, Your mom, you and your sister refer to the same person. How do you know that? By the face, by voice and by recognizing him wth a photo name and surname etc.
We define him in specific ways. We dont generally define him as a male 6 feet high, 2 eyes, a nose 2 legs ....
So each of us has 1 true dad. He belongs to our family. Like wise each religion has its own God recognised by the specific doctrines and signs. The same God cannot possibly present contradicting doctrines to mankind like it appears. God has some specific Doctrine. God can be defined only in terms of absolutes. Absolute Good, Absolute Love, Absolute justice etc.
I am a little good, a little loving, a little kind and a little just. Compared to Gods purity these are like samudram lo kaaki reTTa . Thats why I am not God.
So Saying all paths lead to same God is totally against the absoluteness. The Taliban also follow their religion true to their heart. But we know a lot of their beliefs are inhuman. How? Bin Laden is doing the right thing according to his fundamentalist beliefs. But is he corrent? I dont think so and I hope you also agree. Because we measure their beliefs against the absolute Good God programmed into us. even if the Taliban/al-qaida say that they are correct according to their beliefs, we know they lost the right path.
So we can say that there is 1 God who is defined in terms of absolutes. Even if we tend to see all as gods(trees, animals, planets, stars) there can only be 1 God who is true and defined as absolute in all terms. We have to find out who it is? If I am clear upto this point I will continue in my next post.
muchas gracias
Posted by: Mr. Apolo getics At: 24, Dec 2003 11:33:08 AM IST
God is Omnipotent, omnicient, Omnipresent. God has a phisycal form which we cannot describe with the limited human languistic ability. God is Truth. There cannot be 2 truths. Everything is either true or false. Similarly there is Godly way and Ungodly way. Godly way is Gods Religion. Other ways are all misguided ways. So I dont agree he is irrelegious. we need to analyse the evidence we have and arrive at the true path.
Posted by: Mr. Apolo getics At: 24, Dec 2003 4:06:40 AM IST
...and blame him for our unfulfilled desires proposed to him!
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 14, Nov 2003 11:33:32 AM IST
Now I understand. We all worship God for all the materiliastic things in the world(Money: Car, House etc.etc.) and blame it the mind anyway as it is
"A highly unstable entity in our Body"
Posted by: Mr. Venkanna At: 13, Nov 2003 11:53:20 PM IST
there is no confusion here.if u compare u wil understand it any way let me explain in my limited way. the mind is a very highly unstable entity of our body and it has to be brought to changeless stable state. The normal state of mind due to its unstable condition can not remain stable unless it is moulded by sadhana. just for this reason we experience misery once and happiness other time and again something else make us unhappy. this unstable condition is termed as state of mind.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 13, Nov 2003 1:51:19 PM IST
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