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General Forum: Govt. and Politics | | Restore Telugu Pride | |
| Dear Bahud♥♥rapu Baatasaari, the very same Aditya Kiran Vedula the one and the only, at your service :) Kindly introduce yourself.
As for Mrs.Vidushini, her knowledge of Indian history is about 200 years behind current findings. First of all, there are no such things as a distinct "Dravidian" culture and "Aryan" cultures discernible in Indian history. If you can discern two different kind of cultures, they both borrow so much from each other that it is impossible to seperate one from the other.
The whole tirade about "Aryans" driving "Dravidians" away and so on is all guesswork and self-righteous fantasy on the behalf of the "Dravidianists" or for the lack of a better term, Tamil Fundamentalists.
From the earliest recorded Tamil literature (2,000+years) a clear class-structure is descernible - and this is thought to be "Pre-Aryan" Tamil culture. So where is the question of "Aryans" inventing a "caste system" and imposing it on "Dravidians" - these are the same people.
To simply label groups of people as "Aryan" and opposed to "Dravidian" and then theorize on the crimes that were committed is the kind of dangerous scholarship that the British/Western Orientalists indulged in 200 years ago.
Aryan culture is pan-Indian culture, it is not a racial term. Every Indian who follows Hindu culture is an Aryan. This is the definition according to our tradition.
Unfortunately, we still have people like Mrs.Vidushini unknowingly propogating the same lies and the "Eminent Historians" of JNU that continue to regurgitate the same lies in the name of "Desaffronization" in our school textbooks.
Posted by: Mr. Aditya Vedula At: 8, Jul 2004 9:38:30 PM IST
Well confused version quite irrelavant posting; Visit www.harappa.com
Then post your understandings rather tha confusing self in the first palce and trying to confuse the rest of the world. Names and the places which you are refering now abd then are entirely different.
www.harappa.com
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 8, Jul 2004 6:27:38 PM IST
Hear Hear Madam!
Telugu is considered to be dravidian language only by Tamilians.
Well, Aditya Vedula, by any chance, were you a Comp Sc & Engg grad from Davanagere during 1989-94? Is your full name Aditya Kiran Vedula?
Posted by: Bahud♥♥rapu Baatasaari At: 8, Jul 2004 3:33:40 PM IST
Website for Indus Valley civilization.
www.harappa.com
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 7, Jul 2004 11:25:14 PM IST
History is not clear who raid the Sindh Valley Dravidians / Aryans but it was sure one of them. The script was not decoded so far the collections mage by archeologista.
My point is Tamil and Sanskrit are diffrent so their customs; Infact it's not like this but the other way round; Sanskrit do match with Malayalam once again same problem. So the missing link is the Great Sri Lanka;
Someone has to check from that end.
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 7, Jul 2004 11:12:50 PM IST
Mr.Madhu Kumar,
Although I am not sure of the point you are trying to make, here are some answers:
1) There was no "demolishing" of Indus Valley (I am assuming this is what you meant) civilization. It is now believed that the major rivers of the valley changed courses and the civilizations that depended on them fell apart over time.
2) Tamil and Sanskrit do exist in the same period which is now, and so on for the last 2,000 years at the least.
3) I assume you mean Tamil people when you say Dravidians. They may be related racially but ethnically Tamilians are Tamilians and Sinhalese, I believe claim descent from an ancient Kingdom from the present-day Orissa region.
Posted by: Mr. Aditya Vedula At: 7, Jul 2004 8:48:14 PM IST
Area will not confine you to particular trade or category! Inthe same region there are four which includes:
1. Telugu
2. Kannadiga
3. Tamilian and
4. Malayalee
In the present status Malayalees are neglected whose language is much identical to Sanskrit.
Questions need to be clarified:
1. Who invaded Sindhi Valley and demolished their civilization.
2. Does Tamil and Sanskrit are existing in the same period.
3. Dravidians and Simghaleese have any relation
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 7, Jul 2004 8:09:27 PM IST
Regarding the "Dravida" question, traditionally the word "Dravida" only signified the areas to the south, especially the Tamil areas. Not a race. To illustrate the point, I am a fair skinned Brahmin and the traditional sub-category I belong to is "Dravida" Brahmin - the reason being my ancestors migrated up north from the "Dravida" areas a few centuries ago.
The idea of a "Dravidian" people seperate from "Aryan" people is an invention of Western Indologists. All peoples of India are racially mixed so much so that there are no "pure" anything.
In my opinion the whole idea of "race" as understood in the west is not something we Indians are traditionally aware of or cared about.
Regarding Telugu being a "Dravidian" language, yes. It belongs to the same larger language family as Tamil and Kannada but very distinct from them. I believe about 60% of telugu vocabulary is from Sanskrit and certainly all of the Grammar. However, the basic words and structure are non-Sanskrit in origin - closest relatives to Telugu being tribal languages some perhaps still spoken in the Andhra region.
Posted by: Mr. Aditya Vedula At: 7, Jul 2004 1:30:08 AM IST
First look at Name boards of Shops/offices etc in Hyderabad & Secunderabad.
ONLY ENGLISH. WHERE IS TELUGU in telugu capital.
Posted by: Mr. vijay Lenin babu vijay Lenin babu At: 6, Jul 2004 9:02:43 PM IST
Identify your self?
May be the river side communities may give some clues which includes:
1. Godavari Basin
2. Krishna Basin
3. Kauveri Basin
4. Periyar Basin
Item 1&2 covers AP
Item 3 covers TN & Karnataka and
Item 4 covers God Owns land "Kerala"
In north like sindh valley is the basis for PUNJAB
(Combined Pakistan & India)
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 6, Jul 2004 6:13:50 PM IST
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