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General Forum: Religion | | SATSANGHAM and its relevence these days. | |
| jIvaatma alpaSaktimaMtuDani E vidhamugaa cheputunnaaru?
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 24, Dec 2005 3:42:30 PM IST
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 23, Dec 2005 10:40:18 AM IST
//Any way this is my personal idea and interpretation.//
so be it.
jIvaatma paramaatmalO kalasi okkaTi avutundanaDaaniki pramaaNam EmiTi?
sakala vaidika vaaNgmayamu bhEdamunE chepputunnadi. sakalaSaktimantuDaina paramaatmaku alpaSaktimantuDaina jIvaatmaku saamyam lEdu. idi Sankaraachaaryulu kooDaa oppukonnadE.
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 24, Dec 2005 8:42:59 AM IST
jaibaabaa
aNuvu aNuvugaa nunnaMtavaraku maarpu uMDadu-daanni paramaaNuvugaa viBhajiMchinappuDE maarpulu bEdhaalu-paramaatmanuMDi jIvulu prakRuti viDipaDinappuDE I bEdhaalannI-
Posted by: Mr dyvadhinam yaddanapudi At: 23, Dec 2005 1:20:38 PM IST
Posted by: Amrapaali At: 22, Dec 2005 10:41:05 PM IST
mIru cheppiMdi nijamEnaMDi.evariki pUrtI avagaahana uMDadu.Edeina analysing tO nE uMTuMdi. (this is called in search of knowledge). Interpretations makes a lot of difference. (nEnu saadharaNamugaa conclusions ki raanu.yevari abhipraayamu khaMDimchanu.analysing chEsukOmani cheputaanu,nEnu chEsukuMTaanu) abhipraayaalu peTTukunnappuDu analysing kUDa avasaramu ani naa uddesyamu.
murthygaaru
You got my point sir.little extension is adE paramaatmalO kalisipOyi okkaTi avutuMdi.
I repeat
I never asked who created this maya.
Realising and practising this maya-- is self knowledge.
And the methods to cross,realise and practice this maya are (the few things like) nonattachment,realising God dwells in every heart,neutrality,positive thinking,duty,discarding fear,bondage etc--
Any way this is my personal idea and interpretation.
Thanks for the discussion.
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 23, Dec 2005 11:40:18 AM IST
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 22, Dec 2005 6:11:16 PM IST
enduku kaadu? bandhamulO nunnappuDu jIvaatma bandhamutolagina adE paramaatma anTunnaaru. aditappu. jIvaatma vEru. paramaatma vEru. jIvaatma eppuDuu paaratantryuDE. dependent paramaatmE sarvatantrya svatantryuDu independent
aaparamaatmE maayanu sRushTinchEvaaDU. aaparamaatmE maayaatItuDu.
I feel--- To discuss about soul is a broad and wide topic.
true
kaani mIrE kadaa aDigindi aatma jNjaanamu gurinchi.
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 23, Dec 2005 10:25:14 AM IST
You have wrong idea about me
let me clarify
1. I always said vedaalau /science are all meant for knowledge.Dont mix up science and vedaalu.
vEdaalu manaku jNjnaanamu istu mUlaanni bhagavMtuDiki aapaadiMchaayi.While science never talks about God.But both vedaalu /science talks about knowledge.I always say this point.
2.Natural calamities are never in our hands .But by present technology(knowledge again)we could lessen our problems.And we could understand the the things why the calamities occur.
A small example. We know the death rate of infants were more before we invented vaccine.Now we are aware of the disesases and tried to cure them.I never said we are above God or something.But only insisted on knowledge we come across.
2.At the same time I never said Natural calamities can be controlled by Human beings.But the effects on humanbeings can be controlled by themselves.(That is what called balanced mind)
(I have read about few people after the disasters /and losing families of their own
still worked for humans incessantly with high spirit.This can be acheived by human beings.)
3. manamu anukuMnaTTugaa jaragachchu/jarakkapOvachchu. that is not the point.But certainly we can lessen the impacts/blowings by being neutral in mind.
nI kochchE kashTamu bhagavaMtuDi ichchaa ani saripeTTukuMTaavO,kashTanashTaalu sahajamEnani neutrality peMchukuMTaavO, kashTamu dEnivalana vachchiMdi ani SodhistaavO, whatever reason you think or take it is your knowledge.
Definitly knowledge is infinite and intrepretations makes the difference.Sometimes the knowledge in some points may not be 100% perfect.
Hope you understand my ideas.
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 22, Dec 2005 8:22:05 PM IST
mari du:khaalatO paaTu sukhaalu anubhavistunnaamu kadaa.mari du:khaalalO unnaamanukOvaTameMduku?
maaya ni evaru sRushTiMchaaru anEdi praSna kaadu ikkaDa.maayaku lObaDEdi manamE ani grahiMchaTamu mukhyamu.
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 22, Dec 2005 7:11:16 PM IST
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 22, Dec 2005 2:41:13 PM IST
//And this bondage is because of maya.//
evarImaayanu sRushTinchEdi? evarI maayaku atItuDu?
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 22, Dec 2005 4:29:49 PM IST
evarEmi anukunTE adE ayipOtE andarikI sukhamE vunDochchukadaa! I du@hkhaalenduku?
mIrudaharinchina SlOkam bhagavadgItalOnidaa!
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 22, Dec 2005 4:26:16 PM IST
Saastramu jI nsulO tEDaa eMduku vachchimdO Emani cheppiMdi?.
muktaabhimaani muktOhi baddO baddaabhimaanyapi
kiM vadaMtIha satyEyaM yaa mati:saa gatirbhavEt//
"He who thinks himself free,free he becomes;
he who thinks himself bound ,bound he remains"
The soul that reigns within is independent,and creates the desire for freedom.Aatma(soul) in bondage is jivaatma.
And this bondage is because of maya.
I feel--- To discuss about soul is a broad and wide topic.
It should be realised first.
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 22, Dec 2005 3:41:13 PM IST
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