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| @CC- yes !That is what i have been stressing all the time.Everything that u see around is the addition to the original given by mother nature to man-and it is all temporary since u can not percieieve the subtility which is insignificant and simple unless u also get back to that state through saadhana -Spiritual practise!
@Vijay-Brahmanda Mandal is the source from which the entire creation has decended!
The religion or God that we r following today were suggested by our earlier generations as per their understanding and level!So all these are
given by our earlier generations.
Now the present situation is confusion and chaos because people have followed different faiths and beliefs-as for their convenience and environment and as time pass by they have become established so much that we believe that they are there from ancient times but in fact old a few generatios before only! so all that can not be experienced can not be proved and nothing can be proved unless probed thoroughly!
So my conclusion is No doubt there is god but our limitations in understanding him led to different conclusions and beliefs but he remains the same , be it allah, jesus or ram all are one and the same as they all decended from the same base!
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 14, Sep 2003 12:03:27 PM IST
JP gaaru,
Meeremo nature(ultimate power) God ni create chesindhi antaaru..konthamandhi God created Universe and nature antaaru..mari yedi correct chepthara?
Some questions I asked previously in other DB..but as u told that u r following some Guru since 13 yrs..so u may be hving more knowledge..
According to hindu myth..brahma created "Brahmaand" means Universe..so how come people from other countries dont recognise him as creator..each religion hv their own god whom they beleive as creator ..right?Why all these conflicts..why there is no universal god to all?
Posted by: విజయ్ At: 14, Sep 2003 6:22:57 AM IST
idols are man made not God!
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 13, Sep 2003 4:44:35 PM IST
The ultimate force as the name itself indicates, its nature! According to my guru's vision, the ultimate is ever existant and everything including God ,decended from it and merges in it.It is due to limitations of human thinking and our own thinking and imagination led to this confusion.
As a mater of fact the present day situation is only man made and no one else is responsible to this statge except human mind.
U r right it is self existant and responsible to the entire creation including God!
And the saying u quoted indicates the dependency on God"s grace by those people while executing their duties and leaving the results to Almighty!
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 13, Sep 2003 10:38:26 AM IST
This confused me more.. JP gaaru,according to u nature created god ..or Maha maaya created god?And what is that maha maaya?Did that maha maya created different gods for different religion..so that humans fight in the name of religion?(Part of natural balance ..huhhhh)..I want to know how and from where that maha maya came from?Is it self existent?
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I said that there is no heaven or earth since the are imaginary and we can make this earth as heaven or hell by our deeds and we can see that today around us!
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If the heaven and hell r there on the earth itself..the why people generally say "ANTHA AA PAYI VAADI DAYA"?
Conflicting ur views?
Posted by: విజయ్ At: 13, Sep 2003 3:03:57 AM IST
i sand for corection- the creation was first started from God who also is the creation of nature the most powerfull one, that means everything including God came down from a state called Maha maya ,the ultimate force or the base for creation.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 12, Sep 2003 4:02:27 PM IST
JP Gaaru,
Ur answers r not at all convincing..fate ante nature antaaru..which is meaningless..
And reg. this
//God in the first instance was alone and he wanted to create just for his pleasure //
God's first instance anedhi ekkada nunchi vachchindhi?
If we get answer to the question..if god created everything ..who created GOD? ..then all the mystries will be solved!!!
Posted by: విజయ్ At: 12, Sep 2003 2:39:02 PM IST
dont forget that the mind is responsible for creation and fate here means nature which is superior to all !It is irony of fate because u ur self created all this present with ur past deeds and nature is only a witness to itEven God has to take human form to mend this world so God is no exception!
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 12, Sep 2003 11:25:17 AM IST
Hi, Vijay Kumar
I said that there is no heaven or earth since the are imaginary and we can make this earth as heaven or hell by our deeds and we can see that today around us!
I said atma merges with paramatma and that does not mean atma becomes paramatma.so the population explosion wil not be there since no new atma is created , it is only the existence of atma in different forms depending up on its past karma so there is no increase and decrease it is only change of proportions!
and finally it is a natural process that the soul descends down in the human form if it deserves it through its past karma and again it is natures will to give a suitable body to the soul and we have nothing to do in that
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 12, Sep 2003 10:52:40 AM IST
Anupama gaaru
pl. go through my posting in Satsangam in response to ur posure and u will get my replies to all ur questions!
reg. upadhis are coverings formed around our soul as a result of our thinking, action and reactions in the past (may be of last birth, or this birth) and to attain purity of soul these coverings have to be removed by undergoing the effect of these upadhis through a process of Bhog- either by thought or action- and the choice is yours! i hope i
once we start the unvinding process of these upadhis we under go their effect depending up on their severity and intensity and if we are successfull in one life to exhaust all coverings around our soul in this life itself then we can stop this cycle in this life itself(Method will be given to those who are interested to follow) and then the problem is solved forever! i hope i answered ur questions fully.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 12, Sep 2003 10:40:15 AM IST
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