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General Forum: Religion | | mana jeevita samasyalanniTikee parishkaaramokaTe... | |
| what kind of help?
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 14, Nov 2003 4:36:43 PM IST
There is no use criticising something that you are not aware of but because of curiosity we try to explore new ideas and avenues to find a solution to our problems .It is like admiring or abusing God's creation rather than admiring the creator himself.Spirituality is something which needs unbiased approach with faith and confidence in self.No one here can influence or impose his ideas simply because he found them ideal for himself but at the same time what is wrong if someone who is benefitted by certain way of approach to find solutions to his problems of life and living and got proof of the same with personal experience by associating with such elevated living personalities to share his views? It is up to the others to accept or reject it but the point stressed here is that it is the only solution and let sombody give me information about other methods other than what has been suggested and let us see.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 14, Nov 2003 10:03:33 AM IST
Like i said somewhere in one of the threads we neglect the unknown and unseen entity with which we are all made of called spirit which is other wise known as soul.we give such an attention to our known entity , our body ,totally forgetting the most important aspect of our life called soul because we are not aware of its existence in our body even though we know that it exists in our body and the very cause of our life because we do not exist (die) in its absence in our system.
the mind is the co existent element in our system and we are aware of it.
so we have an opportunity to use the mind to nurture our soul on healthy lines like body through spiritual practise only and so far no other method to get the knowledge and experience of soul was found except the spiritual sadhana.
once the mind and body gets tuned up then the soul becomes strong and healthy and there by our vision improves to such an extent that we can have the vision of entire nature before us like a photo and that is how our ancients who are spiritually elevated used to study the future and caution the people about the future happennings.
Happiness is a state of mind and it is relative from person to person depending up on his individual perceptions which again depends on his grooming and moulding by the influence of his up bringing and circle of associates.
what is happiness to me may not or need not bring happiness to the other but if some how we can develop a state of mind where happiness is same to all then that happiness is superior to the happiness we experience once in a while but not ever. where as the happiness that was built up over a period of time through spiritual sadhanaa is permanent and un changeable.
our spiritual fathers have given us everything that we need to develop that state but we ,due to our own ignorance do not have any idea.so don't blame our spiritual leaders but blame yourself for not been able to catch up with them in spiritual state but we need not regret because it is still available in abundance to really craving individuals but not to others, because unless u crave with all ur heart and soul u can not arrest the attention of the god divine .
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 13, Nov 2003 1:42:04 PM IST
definately! the experience is like a flying bird and every one ,mark me every one who is striving with restless craving for that permanent state of calmness is sure to achieve it and this condition is much advanced than happiness!My only objective of all this discussion is to motivate everyone to build up that restless craving for the permanent state of calmness and insignificance which is the only solution for all our worldly miseries.As for myself i got just a hint of it and i am sure that you too can be my fellow traveller!
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 12, Nov 2003 12:19:37 PM IST
/Ok, agreed. @Jogarao: You just gave a open ended statement that only spirutuality is the solution for all problems in life. No, spirutuality may give you a solace/ confidence to face problems but not solution.*/
For beginners yes, but as you progress forward with your spiritual practise you stop doing mistakes and attempt only such acts that elevate your stat of mind making you do only that which is right.@NTvODu
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 12, Nov 2003 10:35:58 AM IST
@Anupama- spiritual practise alone helps an individual to develop non attachment with the material world and subsequently helps the individual to reach his final destination and there is no alternative to spiritual practise.
Hypnotic suggestions may help for a brief moment but once the hypnotic effect is lost then the individual becomes aware of his surroundings and will be subjected again to their influence.
Spiritual practise gives permanent solution though may be slow according to the intensity of the spiritual practise.I can say this much. we have a majority of people around us who have achieved that internal condition of non attachment and they can guide us happily once we are ready.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 12, Nov 2003 10:29:00 AM IST
death is not the solution for all problems@Pavani gaaru! but the spiritual practise on correct lines continued through out life will make us spiritually alive and all our problems confronting us will get solved as they arise due to our wrongfull interference with the nature.
Venugopal gaaru as you have mentioned reading scripture and books will help to some extent to understand but we have no use of books to develop that way of living spiritual life and once you are spiritually awakened through spiritual sadhana on correct lines , iam stressing correct line then shall we understand everything in life which automatically guides us towards our goal.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 10, Nov 2003 11:51:54 AM IST
death is not solution to all our problems Pavani gaaru,but with spiritual practise we can attain a condition called living dead condition in which we do not get effected with outward situations but verymuch aware of everything around us some thing like a anaesthatic state , so that we are no more bothered by external as well as internal disturbances and we never react but act according to the demand of the situation.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 10, Nov 2003 11:43:51 AM IST
@ Pavani garu
Chavu means you mean natural death or suicide??
Posted by: Mr. venu gopal p At: 10, Nov 2003 11:23:45 AM IST
*becomes sensitive to what? pl. explain furthur/*
Anupama gaaru, when we commence spiritual practise the whole of our body system starts getting Divinised bit by bit over a period of time and as you know divinity is also a subtle and sensitive condition and therefore over a period of time if our sadhana is on correct path and progressing then we develop sensitivity automatically and that also gives us a hint about our spiritual progress.
*withour interferance?*
That means that we being sensitive and nature too being sensitive and because of our tuning up with nature due to our inner awakening taking place due to our sadhana on correct lines the nature will take its course and we need not interfere and if we interfere it gets complicated .so if we can understand this principle that nature takes its course we can develop patience too as a result and leaving everything to nature will automatically develops.I hope this clarification will help you to follow my point of view. if you are not convinced then i will clarify further.
Posted by: Mr. jogarao pilla At: 10, Nov 2003 10:51:30 AM IST
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