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General Forum: Love | | What is unconditional love? | |
| UB,
nope, noone hacked into my id, too much damn free time on my hands. hence, ila chakkars maring in TP.
btw abt my post, let's not get technical here okay?! i didnt claim that i personally knew Osama's mom... For that matter, even u dont know how a muslim mother reacts to all those jihadi killings cuz even U dont know, doesnt matter if they proclaim to the world that they are proud of their kids etc on tv & in paper, the fact remains that NONE of us know what's going thru their heads, cuz we never MET them in person.
We all assume certain things and dont tell me that u dont assume things even when u didnt actually witness the act.
abt parents, of course parents "CREATED" us, we woudlnt be here, if it werent for our parents. I agree that only the parents' love can be unconditional.
unconditional love with spouse, hmm i disagree, yea there will more understanding for sure with more the years they spend together, but loving someone unconditionally is not possible.
care to elaborate more on how being understanding & loving unconditionally go hand in hand?
so if the love is not there, isnt she being little too accomodating, maybe she is stuck in a situation (financial dependency/kids/societal pressure/emotional attachment etc etc) where she feels that she has to love/be with him? do u think, if she's given a chance of a better prospective, would she still love him unconditionally?
Posted by: Krishna Ch At: 16, Jun 2005 0:27:46 AM IST
hmm yea, it sounds right now, but it only applies to the parents' love kada ? It cant be possible in a love relationship (without being docile that is), right?
Posted by: Krishna Ch At: 15, Jun 2005 11:47:08 PM IST
I agree with you Myrtle,
While i agree with the fact that Love comes with hope, what I mean to say is that any unfulfilment of hopes would not affect the love -if its unconditional
Once again disappointment with Osama doesnt mean lack of love on his Mom's part
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 15, Jun 2005 11:28:13 PM IST
btw, MR, i think ur posts do make sense & ur post abt the parents' love actually got me thinking (which is quite rare :P )
so here'z my take on it
of course, therez no denial that parents want us kids to have all the good things in life. no doubt in that.
but dont u think they expect our love in a subtle way? they expect us to behave in a certain way in the society, achieve things in life etc etc..of course, they love us inspite of not living up to their expectations, but but but they do expect certain actions from us (even if its for our own good), doesnt matter even if we fulfill them or not, but the expectations are there no matter what..so how is that unconditional?
hmm regarding Osama's mother, of course she'll love and defend him until the end of this world, but but but dont tell me that she doesnt think that Osama fell short of her expectations ?! Dont u think, she must have had so many hopes and aspirations for her son when he was young ? so in a way, she was expecting her son to be a certain someone when he grows up..im not saying that there isnt love there, but that love does come with certain hopes!
hmm abt willingness..see, willingness to compromise & overlook certain things is all fine and dandy and there's no escape from that in a relationship. when we love someone, we ignore all the flaws that once we found so abhoring, but isnt it becuz we developed an attachment for them (love), but we also want them to reciprocate our feelings, in a a way expecting something in return...
The expression "loving someone no matter what" is kinda vague becuz how can we love someone ignoring everything in the world that they do(which is unconditional love) ? will it be considered as unconditional love, if a woman loves her beau inspite of him running around with another woman? or will it be called docility? let's say if the woman is 'willing' to overlook the fact that her beau is cheating on her cuz she is so in love with that person, since the willingness is there, is it affection or being submissive?
Posted by: Krishna Ch At: 15, Jun 2005 11:14:25 PM IST
Thx Priya,
I'm happy there is atleast one person over here who says I make some sense
Gud Gud!
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 15, Jun 2005 10:05:56 PM IST
Myrtle,
I beg to disagree. Parents do want the kids to prosper - no doubt - but their love is not dependent on how kids behave ..
I bet on my Head Osama's Mom still loves him .. so Does Bush's Mom
Affection cant be confused with docility, for willingess is the differentiator between the two.
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 15, Jun 2005 9:09:41 PM IST
baaga chaepparu....laeji
Btw elaa unnaru soa laang Teim
Posted by: venkat suresh chowdary At: 15, Jun 2005 8:40:42 PM IST
hmm what can be considered unconditional love ? isn't it only when you absolutely do not expect anything in return ..no expectations whatsoever, no gratitude no nothing! (i'm not talkin abt monetary gain here)
Even our parents expect something from us in return, such as expecting us to bring them joy, love & respect them etc etc ..and it's vice versa, we as kids expect them to nurture us and love us, guide us etc etc.. it's all give n take relationship
hmm..with regards to spouse/one we love, it cant be unconditional cuz we assume certain things such as love, trust etc. etc to be in place when we start the relationship with that person, and we 'expect' those things to stay in place all through the course of the relationship. So, how can it be unconditional ? If one does not 'expect' certain things in a relationship, what's the point in having a relationship and more importantly, are you not being little too docile in the relationship?
Posted by: Krishna Ch At: 15, Jun 2005 8:34:40 PM IST
Long time Priya n Janaki, Howz u?
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 15, Jun 2005 8:28:58 PM IST
I don't know hehehehe
Posted by: Janakiram Lakkapragada At: 15, Jun 2005 8:25:44 PM IST
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