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For new comers: Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 2, Jun 2006 10:29:15 AM IST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I dont wanna argue with this idiot anymore. Never argue with a fool like her. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience as she has been doing here. BTW ,for the rest of ppl,the comment on Infosys has lot of truth in it but thick skinned people cant comprehend it (despite the fact that it has been explained a bit in the subsequent post.) Ta Ta! Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 2, Jun 2006 10:04:18 AM IST ========== M.R. To explain the importance of that line,I opened another thread in this same section but tp people were probably afraid of backlash (with govt?) and deleted the thread. Since so many people(so far 3, who are far behind the number of people who understood it,who are ofcorse not invisible to you guys) have rised their fingers at the line,let me explain a bit. As you know now a days techies from premier institutes like IITs either go abroad or opt for career in software industry due to handsome pay packages offered in this industry,which are not forthcoming either in gov service or in core engg fields. Due to this "internal brain drain" of engineers to software industry,there is dearth of qualified ,high caliber engineers in our national research labs and infrastructural projects.We need them in rersearch labs to lead our country to great hights in the field of Defence,Space,and Atomic energy and Agriculture ,just to name a few.Without young talent in these fields we can never hope of producing another C.V.Raman/ Homi Baba/Vikram Sarabhai/Swaminadhan ,just a few names who made India proud and created history of sorts in their respective fields. Something needs to be done to retain the best talent in these fields so that India does not lag behind the rest of the world. These concerns are of no concern to many people,but hese are really important concerns.It is definitely not the fault of a particular S/W company to attract the best talet from across the country.(Thats the reason it was half jokingly called that way.Since in reality its effects are felt in our society) It has something to do with our policy makers. Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 3, Jun 2006 12:47:02 PM IST ========= Keerty, what do YOU say,apart from posting your uncle's the fate of India's technological progress in the areas mentioned below? The issues I mantioned are of national importnace,important to ALL the people of our country,irrespective of their caste/creed/language/region. US attractes the best talent from across the globe and in its Defence/Nuclear/NASA research labs scients from all over the globe are working to make the US superpower. US attracts talent from all over the world,it produes rockets/bombers/jets/nuclear reactors and sells them back to the poor third world countries who have been fighting among them for petty reasons.While India can exporting annually IITians to US and software comapnies ,cant it do something to retain the brain power and make progress in Agriculture(very backbone of our contry)/Defence/Space/Nuclear research? It can certainly do provided our leaders try to rise above petty politics and think of our nation. In our democracy everybody can chose his/her occupation of choice but our national interests must not suffer due to some deficiencies in policy making. The comment on S/w companies is made with these national concerns in mind,taking an outside ring view of the situation in our country in the scientific progress in the fields mentioned above, . The same great C.V.Raman would have perished in darkness if had stayed in India.He could discover the Raman effect using the facilities abroad. Even now the situation is not different. Ours is a rich country with poor people,poor research facilities,poor progress, poor policies. Think of it. Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 5, Jun 2006 10:53:37 AM IST Hi Siri, Thanx for the detailed response .. but looking at it from a different perspective .. Yes we do need researchers in the core areas, but why are people not opting for that ... is it because of lack of infrastructure? is it becuse of the professors who treat the research fellows as slaves (I myslef faced it when I as doing my PhD from the Hyderabad Central University .. thisis first hand info) Is it because of the better treatment given by the software corporates compared to the research institutes? Is it because of the better work culture at Infosys compared to DRDO/ISRO/RRI? In My humble opinion the main reason why people love software industry is that people are RESPECTED unlike other places and lemme add to it, except LRDE and CAIR Bangalore which are DRDO's research establishments, I have not come across a single research lab in India where in a majority of the employees said they were really motivated to work better whereas the recent surveys say that a majority fo the emloyees in the top software companies say they are extremely happy with their respective managements. Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 5, Jun 2006 3:28:46 PM IST ======== M.R. You are welcome.Please also read my today's post down here. Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 5, Jun 2006 10:53:37 AM IST Above all the issues you mentioned, it is the remuneration first.Nobody in research labs would get remuneration comparable with that in S/w field. Infrastructure? Yes to some extent.(to some extent coz our infrastructure is not comparable to that in US labs) Forget about academic research and doing Phds.Apart from IISc and IITs (that too few departments(few individual profs I would say),the academic research people/facilities are pathetic.I was actaully refering to research labs under ISRO/DRDO/BARC/CSIR/and not to the academic research coz theseare the labs that are supposed to be the primary leaders in research in their respectiv efields ,like their counterparts NASA ets in US,and these labs do get lot of funds sanctioned from our annual budgets. Treatment? Again if one goes to ISRO/DRDO/BARC/CSIR/ ,one gets good treatment but the main problem is again remuneration.Thats why annually all fresh scientists from these organisations make a bee line to software industry after spending a year or so in these orgns.So it is the money. Better work culture? perhaps ,but our young chaps are more worried about moneteray compensation than work culture which ofcorse is superior in S/w companies,due primarily to they being PVT companies where inefficiency is not tolerated.Same discipline can also be (must be!) imposed in govt research labs.It is not impossible if one tries proper methods like the ones followed in the pvt industry. //not motivated to work in gov labs//-->the reson is you are safe once you get a gov job.nobody can take it from you.And secondly there is no reward for going that extra mile/putting that extra effort in gov agencies/orgns coz of uniform treatment of people and standard gov rules for promotion etc Having said that,let me add that we can not privatise,for the sake of efficiency, everything in gov hands right now for obvious reasons. Defence research and Nuclear research are of strategic importance and one can not put these areas in pvt hands who mainly look for profit and not national interests.So these areas must remain in gov hands and at the same time,my concern here is ,the gov should be able to attract the best talent to these areas,not only atract,it should retain them(the main problem is job hopping!). Our talents are inferior to none and we produce the best MBAs from IIMs and we export the best talent IITians to foreign shores.THAT MUST CHANGE! Then only India can become a super power in these areas. Recently Indian Airforce started a scheme wherein it wants to give 2 mont apprentice to IITians(summer trianing) and recruit them(if at all they join!) as IAF pilots,coz now a days eour missile systems like AGNI etc are very high tech and real techie people are needed to use them effectively. You must hav eheard of recent ISRO collaboration with NASA in its future moon mission.US is supposed to put some high tech module on India's mission to moon so that the entire mission becomes worthwhile.My point is we must be able to do all those things on our own.Nerly 10-15% of NASA scientists are NRIs. Can we rectify this situation? I would never say s/w companies or people joining s/w comapnies is bad for the country.These companies are creating employment opportunities for thousands of people and we must be happy with that. But ,the fact is that if you go to any high tech research lab of our country,you dont find a single worthwhile Civil engineer or electrical engineer or Mechanical engineer there.(All of them must have already left these orgns searching greener postures elsewhere !).We do need high caliber civil engineers to build better seismic resistant dams,mechanical engineers to design our missiles/reactors/turbines/jets,electrical engineers to design radars/motors/turbines/generators. we need computer engineers in these labs to desing all the controls and communication systems.How US is doing all this work and becoming dominant super power day by day without people working day and night in their research labs?How can India even think of ,forget abt becoming a super power,even a regional player in south asia? We are far far behind even China.(China already test fires a space shuttle!,the third country to have done that after US and Russia) Pvt sector is recently invited to do some fabrication work for ISRO space vehicle/satellite structure.Even in US they contract pvt sector peopel to get some some non strategic things done.We can also do that ,but the ultimate control must remain in gov hands for strategic reasons. If gov do not find competent engineers to work in its labs,who is the loser? Our nation as a whole.The developed countiries make ugly gestures and point a finger at us and say " you dirty poor Indians,you are worth nothing!".Whose feelings are hurt ?.We have rsourses to make internationally renowned MBAs,IITians. Why cant we channalise some resources towards creating ultramodern labs and motivated work force?The gov can create special team of people in each Department like DOS/DAE/Defence and give competent pay package comparable to the best in pvt industry.Actaully outr govt allocates crores of rupees to these departments annuaaly in our budget but always,every year some amount is not spent in the financial year.Some of these resources can be channalized toward the above purpose. People would work for gov,even more happily than they do in pvt sector,if pay packages are good.One should not leave them with better pay packages alone.Otherwise surely laziness would creep in.Accountability amd the same strict supervision which is seen in pvt sector must be introduced.Then only we can hope of making India a super power.Pvt sector can play only a marginal role in this nation building work.But it is the govt that must take a big hard step to cleanse the system of all its deficiencies.Political initiative is a must for this.Otherwise people would continue to leave govt organisations/our country in search of money. Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 5, Jun 2006 5:28:26 PM IST ========== M.R, These scientific establishemnts are like mothers that produce kids,groom them,make them able persons.But just like kids leave behind the mothers in search of greener postures, the scientists leave them behind their whining mothers. In the same funny sense ,let me put it straight to you. Unlike in DRDO/ISRO/DAE, in S/W companies these engineer kids day n night "work" for a "clients" to get some good bucks. In brothels too people "work" for "clients" for some bucks. That is the similarity and not what you people thought :)(no offenses intended to anyone) Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 6, Jun 2006 9:57:20 AM IST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So Going by your logic, It must be DRDO/ISRO/BARC that are acting like Brothels, not Infosys :)) Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 5, Jun 2006 6:47:49 PM IST =========== Lez take a look at Japan. Now it is flooding international markets with its cars and electronic goods at copetitive prices.Now the situation is such that US has to restrict Japan's cars from entering its markets to protect the domestic markets.How did Japan achieve all this progress ,which was reduced to ash in world war II? It is because all their people felt the patritism and the need to rebuild the country in the face of national calamity.They really worked hard forgetting all the petty differences and that is how they made a difference! When a tiny Japan could do all that,we are many times bigger in area, we are more than one billion people..why do we still remain as "third world country?" even after implementing so many five year plans? Obviously something is missing..that patriotic element from us,that which took Japan to the summit of progress. So do we need someone to drop an atomb bomb on us to make us united ? It seems so. And that will definitely happen if we dont wake up. May be we also need to implement something like that is prevelant in some countries..compulsory army service for all able adult population.then only some streak of patriotism would be lit in our hearts. We Indians take everything for granted.As long as our stomach is full nothing bothers us. Everybody is after money and it is not their fault.What we are worried about is our national interests. If there is no nation ,there wont be anyone of us .there wont be any cosy luxuries. Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 7, Jun 2006 10:10:12 AM IST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lez take a look at Japan. Now it is flooding international markets with its cars and electronic goods at copetitive prices.Now the situation is such that US has to restrict Japan's cars from entering its markets to protect the domestic markets.How did Japan achieve all this progress ,which was reduced to ash in world war II? It is because all their people felt the patritism and the need to rebuild the country in the face of national calamity.They really worked hard forgetting all thepetty differences and that is how they made a difference! When a tiny Japan could do all that,we are many times bigger in area, we are more than i billion people..why do we still remain as "third world country?" even after implementing so many five year plans? Obviously something is missing..that patriotic element from us,that which took Japan to the summit of progress. So do we need someone to drop an atomb bomb on us to make us united ? It seems so. And that will definitely happen if we dont wake up. May be we also need to implement something like that is prevelant in some sountries..compulsory army service for all able adult population.then only some streak of patriotism would be lit in our hearts. We Indians take everything for granted.As long as our stomach is full nothing bothers us. Everybody is after money and it is not their fault.What we are worried about is our national interests. If there is no nation ,there wont be anyone of us .there wont be any cosy luxuries. Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 7, Jun 2006 10:05:06 AM IST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That Idiot, I already said thick skinned people don't understand anything,including this one!HOw can they be expected to understand a serious joke unliss their thick cranium is drilled with 20mm drill bit and poured throuh it? Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 6, Jun 2006 8:03:31 PM IST M.R. WHo has to do that?U n me?Like I said already,it is the gov which ahs to make suitable policies to attract and retain the best talent.Please read again what I said in my last post. .. I already said thick skinned people don't understand anything,including this one! Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 6, Jun 2006 8:03:31 PM IST WHo has to do that?U n me?Like I said already,it is the gov which ahs to make suitable policies to attract and retain the best talent.Please read again what I said in my last post. //We have resourses to make internationally renowned MBAs,IITians. Why cant we channalise some resources towards creating ultramodern labs and motivated work force? The gov can create special team of people in each Department like DOS/DAE/Defence and give competent pay package comparable to the best in pvt industry. Actaully outr govt allocates crores of rupees to these departments annuaaly in our budget but always,every year some amount is not spent in the financial year.Some of these resources can be channalized toward the above purpose. People would work for gov,even more happily than they do in pvt sector,if pay packages are good. One should not leave them with better pay packages alone.Otherwise surely laziness would creep in.Accountability amd the same strict supervision which is seen in pvt sector must be introduced.Then only we can hope of making India a super power.Pvt sector can play only a marginal role in this nation building work.But it is the govt that must take a big hard step to cleanse the system of all its deficiencies. Political initiative is a must for this.Otherwise people would continue to leave govt organisations/our country in search of money.// ========= Take this stockmarket meltdown,which the title of this thread. If India is self reliant in all sectors-energy/banking/agri/etc, whould this much meltdown occur on our BSE n NSE? Definitely not. We want self reliant super power ,that is India. Tell me how can this be achieved. Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 8, Jun 2006 11:00:47 AM IST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Petty minds do not understand serious issues.Do they? If some country attacks India overnight who would defend us and with what technology? bug-free software programs alone ? Our coal reserves are limited. We want to explore nuclear options for energy production to meet our demands.Who would do that research ? These are just few areas where competent work force is missing. That is the concern here and not the term "brothel". Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 8, Jun 2006 10:55:41 AM IST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How else can India become super power? Just one more example. In the year 2002 India exported lakhs of tons of wheat at loss to other countries coz of food surplus. Presently India is planning to import lakhs of tons of foodgrains due to stagnant agricultural production and increased consumption.Isn,t it due to lack of research in agricultural sector?Who would do this research? USA for us? or IBM for us? Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 8, Jun 2006 10:48:27 AM IST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If high caliber engineers from IITs and other top institutes continue to migrate to software industry,the techonological future of India in Defence,space,Nuclear and agricultural technology would continue to be pathetic.That is the concern expressed here,People who dont have such concerns would continue tomiss the mainpoint and continue to hang on to the term "brothel" I spoke of in which people work day n night for some "clients" to get some good bucks.Like I said before it is not the fault of such people per se,but it is the govt policies which are driving away high caliber engineers to alternative non-core professions.The gov spends lakhs of rupees to make an IITianand this IITian works in someother field than which is he trained in.This situation must change and the gov musttake proper measures for that. ============no use of even this,if the situation continue to be like this=========== --> BANGALORE: While the Indian ITES/BPO industry continues to ride the path of growth, it is worried about improving the levels of education in the country to keep its knowledge and labour pool advantage . Industry leaders feel that both companies and government should work together in this aspect. Speaking at Nasscom’s India ITeSBPO Strategy Summit 2006, Nasscom president Kiran Karnik said tie-ups with state governments and educational institutions were the need of the hour with emphasis on changing curriculum at school levels and improving language, computer and soft skills. “China has said that it plans to build 50 Harvard Universities. Even if they build half the number, they can compete with us. India needs to build not 3-4 but 100 IIMs and IITs to ward off competition. The industry is ready to help in this endeavour,” was the view of Pramod Bhasin, chairperson, Nasscom BPO Forum and CEO of Genpact. Industry experts think that the BPO industry is going through a “mid-life crisis” . “As the market has become older, there is a bit of frustration among companies, including MNCs like IBM and Accenture that the growth hasn’t met expectations. The BPO companies are grappling to find the right strategy and business models in the face of stiff competition and consolidation in the industry,” said John C McCarthy, V-P , Asia Pacific, Forrester Research. He added that future BPO success will require serious technological and marketing investments by suppliers. Stating that a recent Forrester survey had come out with findings about a fair amount of angst among clients about offshore BPOs, he said that several of them are putting in more audits, reevaluating offshore plans and renegotiating SLAs to put in more security measures. Mr McCarthy said that the call centre scramble between 2002-2006 has played out and now the focus is on vertical build out. “Increasingly, there will be deals to build out skills and depth. We are also seeing IT firms including Infosys and Wipro, moving to leverage software products as a common platform,” he said. Hubert Giraud, CEO, Capgemini Global BPO services, said price was no longer the only driver for customers. “Cost is important but it is increasingly becoming secondary to operational efficiency and processes,’’ he added. Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 8, Jun 2006 10:38:49 AM IST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That is serious thinking about our nation's scientific future . Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 8, Jun 2006 10:16:39 AM IST ======== Hi M.R.! welcome back. No need for asking excuses!esp for a cheerful person like u.U (and all!)are always welcome to say anything ! what do you mean by policies are fine?which policies are fine? First of all there must be a policy on work culture also. No? Where have this PSU and Pvt sector work cultures come from?Pvr sector has a plocy on whom to hire,how to train him,where to place him,what work to give him,how to assess his perpormance,how to promote/demote etc.right?That is why pvt sector performs so well everywhere.Similar policies,tel me,why are they not there in gov orgns?lez say "they are not there."Agreed?Now tell me is it not possible for the gov to make similar policies ,which are existing in pvt sector,for the PSU or research labs under it? Is it impossible?why? As all of you know ,like I said before,we make world class IIM graduates and IITians.Right?How is gov making this possible? You know how hard a life is for an IIM student or IITian ? Assignments ,tests,seminars,field surveys..after going through such grinding ,they become world class.It is not easy.That is in the education field.And we ahave been proved that we can produce the best talent. Similarly ,such things must be implemented ,by making policies,guidelines,flow charts,in our research labs also.That way it is possible to extract the best from the workforce.Pay them.Retain them.Get work from them as is being done elsewhere. Then people would like gov jobs too! Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 8, Jun 2006 2:10:10 PM IST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and by the way .. the current day arms and missiles HEAVILY DEPEND ON BUG-FREE SOFTWARE as they are real-time systems. DRDO guys do take the help of cos like TCS, though unofficially, while they write their sofware. Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 8, Jun 2006 1:56:57 PM IST ========== I am aware of that and I also mentioned earlier that gov can always invite pvt sector to do some specific work but it cant put the entire responsibility of strategic sector in pvt hands for security reasons. BTW, the gov should be able to retain Civil/electrical/mechanical/ core engineers in the core engg fields in its research labs for the reasons I already mentioned in my previous posts.That is the main concern here..core engineers working in non core sectors and gov not being able to retain them.That is the gist of the problem.Shall I have to repeat agin it fot the umpteenth time?! :) Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 8, Jun 2006 2:15:17 PM IST ======= Attention please! An important public announcement! No need to respond to this idiot "Better Than The Best " for this idiot is none other than "Andhra Ammayi" aka "Me Invincible" aka present incarnation "Better Than The Best",who once could not write/correct Annamayya's Keertanas and so changed her name and went into oblivion only to resurface here with her Telangana best,the original tounge at the worst.Good luck to her. BTW,Beware of her!And her bonehead. Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 11, Jun 2006 5:03:58 PM IST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attention please! An important public announcement! No need to respond to this idiot "Better Than The Best " for this idiot is none other than "Andhra Ammayi" aka "Me Invincible" aka present incarnation "Better Than The Best",who once could not write/correct Annamayya's Keertanas and so changed her name and went into oblivion only resurface here with her Telangana best,the original tounge at the worst.Good luck to her. BTW,Beware of her!And her bonehead. Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 11, Jun 2006 5:02:50 PM IST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Better Than The Best At: 10, Jun 2006 2:24:55 AM IST I give you one more chance.Instead of going "ga ga" over the term "brothel" ,if you have any commonsense left in you ,read all my posts here and answer the questions raised by me. You can take the help of your cronies, if any.No problem.OK? Take this as an open challenge. If you can't do that ,just keep quiet and dont spoil the peaceful atmosphere here with your moronic ramblings.U moron. Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 11, Jun 2006 4:05:14 PM IST ========

Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 9, Dec 2006 8:29:47 PM IST

Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 9, Dec 2006 8:25:18 PM IST _____________________________________________ Exactly! Somebody needs to kick out this annoying pest <SIRI SIRI> from this thread :))

Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 9, Dec 2006 8:27:39 PM IST

It is not the question of bootulu in ramaayana.It is the question of whether they can be there or not in a telanganastyled story.

Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 9, Dec 2006 8:27:05 PM IST

BTW I will speak to Janaki sometime today, make him go through the whole post and see what he says. Whatever he says, I will stick to that bottom line. Like I said before, I choose family over friends. _____________________________________________ It's your choice, who am I to tell you whom to stick to? Lemme tell you once again, I have only questioned the motive behind your U-turn .. IF YOU HAD EXPRESSED THIS OPINION THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY WHEN YOU SPOKE TO ME (IN PRESENCE ON RAJ,S. AS YOU YOURSELF HAVE MENTIONED SOMEWHERE), I WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE RAISED TAKEN UP THIS ISSUE WITH YOU. I SPOKE TO YOU IN DETAIL ABOUT THIS BECAUSE YOU YOURSELF SAID I HAD A VAILD POINT.

Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 9, Dec 2006 8:26:09 PM IST

Somebody needs to kick out this annoying pest from this thread

Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 9, Dec 2006 8:25:18 PM IST

sirisiree, nuv telangaaNaa raamaayaNaMlO bootulEmee lEvanukunTE Taapik intaTitO vadiley`. appuDu neksT episOD chaduvukOvachchu. lEdaa inkee daaraM illaa manDutoonE unTundi. aalOchinchukO.

Posted by: Mr. Yama Kinkarudu At: 9, Dec 2006 8:24:34 PM IST

kinkaraa ! namastE !

Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 9, Dec 2006 8:23:52 PM IST

naayanaa sirisiree ee daaraMlO idantaa avasaramanTaavaa?

Posted by: Mr. Yama Kinkarudu At: 9, Dec 2006 8:20:29 PM IST

Rea Paapa and paapam

Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 9, Dec 2006 8:20:27 PM IST

Now the Writer can come forward and post her next Episode. _____________________________________________ Sure she can .. Did I ever say NO? Posted by: Mr. Siri Siri At: 9, Dec 2006 8:16:34 PM IST _____________________________________________ Paapa, malli bootulloki digaavaa .. Hehe .. Infosys interview failure paapam antha kastam gaa undaa ... relax :))

Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 9, Dec 2006 8:19:49 PM IST

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