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Are you a Secularist? Thought Provoking

matAnni rAjakIyAlaki upayOginchukOvaDam mAnava charitralO kottEmI kAdu. akkaDa amErikanlu chEsindi...ikkaDa pAkistAn chEsindi. __________________________________________ I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT AMERICA OR PAKISTAN. I AM SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE TERRORISTS WHO ARE KILLING INNOCENT KASHMIRI PANDITS IN THE NAME OF JIHAD AND THE MUSLIM ORGANIZATIONS PAYING DEAF EAR TO IT .. CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME LINKS (TO YOUR PAATA PAPERLU) WHERE THE MUSLIM ORGANIZATIONS PROTESTED THESE KILLINGS IN THE SAME SCALE AS THEY PROTESTED BABRI OR GUJARAT? _____________________________________________ adE pAkistAnlO... avEsamlO 6th December 1992 taruvAta paDagotina gudi...chandAlEsukuni kaTinchindi...muslimsE....bhayamtO dAkkunna hindUlaki...iLLaloki pilichi bhojanam peTTindI muslimsE! ADE PAKISTAN LO HINDU POPULATION PERCENTAGE SINGLE FIGURES LOKI PADIPODAANIKI KAARANAM EVARU? RSS? VHP? BJP? MODI? ADVANI? 35 TEMPELKS PADAGOTTI OKA DAANNI KATTINCHI O IDDARIKI BHOJANAM PETTADAME SECULARISM AA? _____________________________________________ jIhAd ki O charitra undi. dAnni sonta avasarAlakOsam vADukunTunnAru. A vishayam chAla mandi muslims ki telusu. kAni avatala vyakti tupAkI chEtilO peTukuni tirugutunTE...evaru mAtram Em chEstAru? RIGHT . VAALLU TUPAKI PATTUKODAANIKI MADARSALALO MORAL AND FINIANCIAL SUPPORT ICHEDI EVARU? VHP KOODA KATTULU TUPAAKULU PATTUKUNI MUSLIMS NI OCCHAKOTHA KOSTHE "AYYA BOBI .. VAALLA CHETILO KATTULUNNAI" ANI HINDUS KOODA OORUKOVAALI MEE LOGIC PRAKAARAM! (INDIRECT GA NIGHT TIME LO VAALLAKI INKONNI KATTULU KONIVVAALI) _____________________________________________ pAta pEparlu chUDandi MEERE CHOOPINCHANDI AVEVO .. GUJARAT MEEDA ENTHA COVERAGE UNDO GODHRA MEEDA ENTHA UNDO .. ESPECIALLY MEE KASHMIR TIMES LO GODHRA GURINCHI ENTHA RAASAARO KOODA CHOODDAM NOT EVEN A SINGLE MUSLIM ORGANIZATION CONDEMNED GODHRA WITH A STRONG VOICE THE DAY IT HAPPENED .. THEY WERE FORCED TO DO THAT ONLY AFTER GUJARAT RIOTS. THERE WAS A CLEAR 24 HOUR GAP BETWEEN GODHRA VIOLENCE AND THE REST OF GUJARAT HAPPENINGS .. I WAS CONTINOUSLY WATCHING HYD.COM DISCUSSION FORUM THAT DAY AND THE FIRST REACTIONS OF MULSIM CHATTERS TO GODHRA VIOLENCE WERE SOMETHING LIKE "HINDU PIGS LEARNT THEIR LESSONS NOW" "HINDUS WILL DIE LIKE THIS IF THEY DARE TO TOUCH MUSLIMS" "GREAT JOB DONE" THE NEXT DAY THE SAME IDS WERE SAYING "WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? IS INDIA DEMOCRATIC AND SECULAR?" "WHY ARE HINDUS SILENT WHEN THEIR BROTHERS ARE BEING KILLED?" "BHAION PLEASE CONDEMN GUJARAT. WE AGREE GODHRA WAS WRONG TOO. THAT WAS DONT BY SOME MISGUIDED ELEMENTS. BUT MODI SHOUDL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR GUJARAT RIOTS" _____________________________________________ evaDochchi inTi mIda paDatAdO anE kangAru chAlA mandiki undi. ANTE BHAYAM UNDI KAABATTI VAALLU CHESEDI RITE ANNAMAATA .. SO HINDUS KI KOODA EVADEMANTADO ANI BHAYAME .. WHY THEY HELL SHOULD THEY CARE ABOUT ATROCITIES ON MUSLIMS THEN? PANI PAATA LEKE KADA?

Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 26, Aug 2005 8:27:13 PM IST

matam bAgAnE undi. manushulE pakkadAri tapparu... evaDiki upayOginchinaTTu... vADu vADukunTunnAdu. idi rAjakIyamkI upayOgapaDitE... emainA chEsE paristiti...entakainA teginchE paristiti undi.

Posted by: Mr. Vachaspathi V At: 26, Aug 2005 5:27:20 PM IST

Before soviet split who financed and supplied weapons to Afghanistan rebels against soviet? ___________________________________________ It is the Americans who did that, not the Kashmiri Pandits right? So why a re Kashmiri Pandits being killed in the name of Jihad? matAnni rAjakIyAlaki upayOginchukOvaDam mAnava charitralO kottEmI kAdu. akkaDa amErikanlu chEsindi...ikkaDa pAkistAn chEsindi. My question still remains ____________________________________________ divide that figure 80:20 according to Indian population ____________________________________________ It is definitely not 80:20 ... WHILE MAJORITY HINDU ORGANIZATIONS, (BARRING VHP) CRITICIZED MODI FOR HIS ROLE IN THE RIOTS, NOT SO MANY MUSLIM ORGANIZATIONS EVEN BOTHERED TO CONDEMN GODHRA .. WHY? pAta pEparlu gamaninchanDi malak gArU.. This question remains too _____________________________________________ That is not only one community attitude discuss or make an international issue - Idi Amin _____________________________________________ I was asking about the case where Hindus were killed by Muslim Gangs in Pakistan and Bangaldesh .. not govt raising some issue .. I am talkign about specific ISLAMIC groups of India ... How many Muslims in India reacted to those killings? Very minusucle, if at all somebody did .. Isnt that adE pAkistAnlO... avEsamlO 6th December 1992 taruvAta paDagotina gudi...chandAlEsukuni kaTinchindi...muslimsE....bhayamtO dAkkunna hindUlaki...iLLaloki pilichi bhojanam peTTindI muslimsE! Maintaining DOUBLE STANDARDS? _____________________________________________ near secunderabad station there is a mosque and temple side by side there I visited in number of times _____________________________________________ Secunderabad is a Hindu Dominated area ... I am referring to Mecca Masjid Area / Chandrayana Gutta locality .. this question remains too .. _____________________________________________ NOBODY IS BLAMING THE RELIGION HERE .. MY questions were in response to your question "WHY ARE MUSLIMS BEING TARGETTED?" .. matam prajala chEtilOnchi... mata peddalachEtilOki pOtE.. vALLu E matastulaina sarE...ilAgE unTundi. panilEni vALLu rAjakIyalalO unTE... vALLaki iTuvanTi vishayAlE gurtunTAyi. If my questions dont reveal what I think then here I go .. THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS UNFORTUNATELY BLAMED BECAUSE THEY PROTEST WHEN SOME ONE TROUBLES THEM AND DONT EVEN RESPOND WHEN SOME FOLLOWERS OF THEIR RELIGION PERPETRATE VIOLENCE AGAINST OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE NAME OF JIHAD... jIhAd ki O charitra undi. dAnni sonta avasarAlakOsam vADukunTunnAru. A vishayam chAla mandi muslims ki telusu. kAni avatala vyakti tupAkI chEtilO peTukuni tirugutunTE...evaru mAtram Em chEstAru? Had one SINGLE Muslim organization condemned the Godhra incident openly, the community wouldnt have been looked down upon.(Like Hindus openly opposed Gujarat Violence) pAta pEparlu chUDandi.... Had the Muslim Organizations opposed the Ethnic cleansing of Hindus from Kashmir, it wouldnt have been defamed so much. ( Like Hindus opposed Human Rights Violations) kASmIr Taims dina patrika eppuDainA chUsArA? Had one Muslim Organization opposed the barbarian acts when Hindus were Butchered in Pakistan or Bangladesh (Like Hindus Opposed US invasion of Iraq) things would have been better! vyatirEkinchaDam taruvAta sangati! adi jarigina taruvAtA...evaDochchi inTi mIda paDatAdO anE kangAru chAlA mandiki undi.

Posted by: Mr. Vachaspathi V At: 26, Aug 2005 5:20:57 PM IST

Excellent! Reality & truth lies in your answer Mr.M R ji. They are true fanatics with inhuman base. Pakistaanis call the converted muslims as"kaafirs" though they themselves are "kaafirs" centuries back ago.

Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 26, Aug 2005 1:35:04 PM IST

Before soviet split who financed and supplied weapons to Afghanistan rebels against soviet? ___________________________________________ It is the Americans who did that, not the Kashmiri Pandits right? So why a re Kashmiri Pandits being killed in the name of Jihad? My question still remains ____________________________________________ divide that figure 80:20 according to Indian population ____________________________________________ It is definitely not 80:20 ... WHILE MAJORITY HINDU ORGANIZATIONS, (BARRING VHP) CRITICIZED MODI FOR HIS ROLE IN THE RIOTS, NOT SO MANY MUSLIM ORGANIZATIONS EVEN BOTHERED TO CONDEMN GODHRA .. WHY? This question remains too _____________________________________________ That is not only one community attitude discuss or make an international issue - Idi Amin _____________________________________________ I was asking about the case where Hindus were killed by Muslim Gangs in Pakistan and Bangaldesh .. not govt raising some issue .. I am talkign about specific ISLAMIC groups of India ... How many Muslims in India reacted to those killings? Very minusucle, if at all somebody did .. Isnt that Maintaining DOUBLE STANDARDS? _____________________________________________ near secunderabad station there is a mosque and temple side by side there I visited in number of times _____________________________________________ Secunderabad is a Hindu Dominated area ... I am referring to Mecca Masjid Area / Chandrayana Gutta locality .. this question remains too .. _____________________________________________ NOBODY IS BLAMING THE RELIGION HERE .. MY questions were in response to your question "WHY ARE MUSLIMS BEING TARGETTED?" .. If my questions dont reveal what I think then here I go .. THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS UNFORTUNATELY BLAMED BECAUSE THEY PROTEST WHEN SOME ONE TROUBLES THEM AND DONT EVEN RESPOND WHEN SOME FOLLOWERS OF THEIR RELIGION PERPETRATE VIOLENCE AGAINST OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE NAME OF JIHAD... Had one SINGLE Muslim organization condemned the Godhra incident openly, the community wouldnt have been looked down upon.(Like Hindus openly opposed Gujarat Violence) Had the Muslim Organizations opposed the Ethnic cleansing of Hindus from Kashmir, it wouldnt have been defamed so much. ( Like Hindus opposed Human Rights Violations) Had one Muslim Organization opposed the barbarian acts when Hindus were Butchered in Pakistan or Bangladesh (Like Hindus Opposed US invasion of Iraq) things would have been better!

Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 25, Aug 2005 7:24:08 PM IST

Even my other friend there was caught in the office?

Posted by: Mr. Vachaspathi V At: 25, Aug 2005 7:15:06 PM IST

Hello SDB, How r u? when r u coming to Hyderabad again? Mean while, where were u in Bombay when there was heavy downpour and devastation....

Posted by: Mr. Vachaspathi V At: 25, Aug 2005 5:37:10 PM IST

No political party can continue either left or right in India through out it's journey.

Posted by: Mr. Vachaspathi V At: 25, Aug 2005 5:04:10 PM IST

Right Wing Politics! - OK. Some parties are branded Right Wing & Some are Left Wing. At least, we know what they are, in spite of one or two 'hick-ups'. But what about the main party ( which had the fortune of ruling this country for most of the time), which is 'sometimes left', 'sometimes right' & sometimes 'about turn'?

Posted by: SATYA RAMA PRASAD KALLURI At: 22, Aug 2005 9:42:46 PM IST

And yeah .. why should it only be your right to ask questions? Why dont u let out your answers to mine too? I'm postin gthem again here Why are some muslim groups tagetting non-muslims in the name of Jihad. Before answer this I would like to remember one thing that is who lit the fire. Before soviet split who financed and supplied weapons to Afghanistan rebels against soviet? How many Muslims talk about Godhra while they talk about Gujarat and in contrast, check How many Hindus talk about Godhra and Modi together? To be frankly I don’t the count if you know please give me figure and divide that figure 80:20 according to Indian population Regarding godhra or best bakery issue and Gujarat modi issue an international topic even in American congress also discussed a lot about him, I am seed to ripe to discuss about him That great attitude discussed a lot in Indian parliament as well as in supreme court level so so.. Why do some Muslims in India make it a big issue when muslims get killed In Palestine or Iraq( And the same gang expects Hindus to keep quiet when Hindus are attacked in Bangladesh since it its not out Nation) .. Isnt it like maintaining Double standards? That is not only one community attitude discuss or make an international issue. When Idi Amin Dada Oumee (east African dictator) killing thousand of Hindus in Tanzania and east Africa India make that issue an international which was discussed a lot in UN later all migrated to U.K on the Winston Churchill agreement 1945 ‘s human rights agreement, even w in Nepal recently situation our govt reacted in SARC and put the pressure on that hope u remember. Hindus opposed WTC attacks and Iraq Invasion with the same intesity. How many Muslims did that? How can u say Muslim not opposed that otherwise give me Luminous Flux [lm],I’ll give you Radiant Power [W] of intensity again I don’t have the exact number Why the USA not condemn the plane hijack to kandahar and in Kashmir issue why G5 countries not supporting India? In the Hindu Dominated areas there wont be any opposition to Mulsims organizing a procession in front of a temple. But why isnt it possible for Hindus to do the same in a Muslim Dominated area? I am not aware of that as of my knowledge if that’s true near secunderabad station there is a mosque and temple side by side there I visited in number of times. From my bottom of heart quite upset to killing of any human being on earth, as of my knowledge no religion teach such type of preaching if they teach that that’s not at all a religion Some crooks r wants to use world’s highest populated religion as their support for their self hate and silly things. Here one thing I would like to share, because of some crooks all religion is blaming. It’s like in Middle East some outlawed people killing on skin colour base, same in developed countries also they treat all Asians are alike because of skin in my view two things same. Then where’s the difference between the polished and unpolished monkeys. It’s like blaming whole community because of jag dish tattler r sajjan Kumar /HKL Bhagath In any issue if u brings the community u should face the problem more intensely u better know what happened in blue star operation Sepoy Mutiny? If the wrong /bad in religion why the most of the prominent and successful people converting in to that (A R Rehman, Mohmad Ali etc) please think whether problem in community or people . Finally the fight /war between evil and good not on religious lines please understand me with big heart. Hmm I written big composition like past days Nori vijay and Anupamma dannam, etc and like present days Krishna chitanya, Andrudu etc (j/k)

Posted by: Mr. The Fountainhead (A.K.A Fake ID) At: 22, Aug 2005 1:44:51 AM IST

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