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General Forum: Current 'Affairs' | | satyam vadha pai spandinchanDi | |
| As Murthi said, you should continue with you 'PIG THEORY' :) looks like you never change. You not accept philanthropist and not let them prove their argument (profit hike or what ever). We all know he is a philanthropist but lets see what happened to the profits or hikes from last 6 years. SOPT your meaningless 'Vetandavaadam' by JUD and PIG theorem. (one things looks clear here, i have know dought you are a self-centered with caste feeling).
Posted by: Mr. Seetha Ram Reddy P At: 29, Jan 2009 8:17:27 AM IST
Your got benefited by 108, so you are showing gratitude and are in denial mode for his frauds.
Nothing great in confession of cheating & theft after 7yrs, when cornered. Lying to people, share holders, board of directors is not at a noble quality!
I appreciate your gratitude - Your life was saved by 108 and you dedicated your rest of life just to praise Rajus, ignoring all their frauds running into billions! You are greater than Raju who amassed Billions behind the veil of 108 service!
You are great Narayana Murthy, you are the great!
You do one thing, you make a balance sheet of his donations and lands he swallowed , money he diverted for his own use. Let us see if his donations are more than 10% of his illegal earnings.
Tell me one thing - why such a great philanthropist Raju indulged in FRAUD, CHEATING? Confession comes later, first explain why he repeatedly did for 7years? Who got benefited by that?( those 108 patients or what?). What is Raju's Water, is he running free bottled-water plant for free?
By citing fraud by someone(Ramoji, venkOji, CBN etc), you can not justify or cover-up with philanthropy of Raju's. If they stink, so as yours. We are talking about Raju, so let us talk on it. You open a discussion on Ramoji, I would participate and bash his nexus with CBN, ok? Don't be in hurry to categorize me with them( their caste, I know! :)) )
Posted by: Subba Rao A At: 29, Jan 2009 7:53:09 AM IST
Mr.SubbaRao again you starting using wrong words like…. *** “he can donate more & more to increasing number of 'beggers', ( of different levels) right? :D” ***…. what this means? Who ever using Raju’s services of hospitals, ambulances, water and education are considered as beggars???? Unbelievable… you are such a jerk, that means you have also considering his employees also as Beggars because they taking free health plans including life & disability etc…. So sad…
*** “You may call me Pakistani or Osam Bin Laden, for your satisfaction, I don't care. :) I have 'guts' :)” *** here I can see you as another filthy Ramoji… who always thinks what ever he does, that’s right. His philosophy is write what ever he thinks right for him and put all kinds of yellow journalism, which is ultimate and final no matter rest of world thinks.
I have no dare to comment like YOU on the great philanthropist like Raju because I am one of the so called beggar who saved by his ambulance service in 5 min after a major accident. I see him as a great man who agreed what ever he did wrong (which i never see anyone accepted like that) and already in Jail for that matter.
Good luck with you PIG theory…
Posted by: Mr. Narayana Mruthi At: 28, Jan 2009 11:04:11 PM IST
Mr. Narayana Murthy,
You need to understand one thing. Same species Ox is called Gangireddu, eddu, nandi in different instances. If you are unable to distinguish that is up to you & your friend Rubena Singh.
I call a pig as pig when it is rolling in mud & filth, and varahamu when refer to Lord Vishnu's 3rd avatara.
You may call me Pakistani or Osam Bin Laden, for your satisfaction, I don't care. :) I have 'guts' :) to call criminal as a criminal and philanthropist as philanthropist. They are separate issues, I don't want to mix-up and root-mean-square average it. That is for Chitragupta to decide. :))
I believe here we are talking on 'Satyam vadha' based on confession to 7000Cr fraud. He may be rich, and who knows, hemay want to get richer so that he can donate more & more to increasing number of 'beggers', ( of different levels) right? :D
Posted by: Subba Rao A At: 28, Jan 2009 8:51:04 PM IST
Confessing is for his convenience. Confession when cornered is common in white-collar crimes.
Calling that as 'guts' is not appropriate. 'Guts' is something to do a courageous job, with full awareness of the dire consequences, like risking one's life.
The King has been manipulating & siphoning investors money for past 5years, he never thought of confessing then. He even attempted to mop-up that fraud(before confessing) by trying to acquire Maytas Infra, which was thwarted by shareholders in the US.
This confession was the only best option left for him than to get prosecuted in US where he can not manage/manipulate in courts. Here he can easily manage after 1 or 2 yrs, the time usually after the media's attention diverted. That's how many IAS, IPS officers are getting promotions, even after caught red-handed by ACB.
Reddy may feel whatever he feels like. What I say is don't glorify a CRIMINAL just because he confessed and call it as guts. The confession is a part of his stategy(last resort) when there is no other go.
Coming to 'pick-pocters'. Suppose if a pick-pocketer confessed, would you call it as 'guts' & refer him as King?
You must have heard guy who attacked a girl and got himself injured and confessed to his crime of trying to slit the girl's throat with razor blade. Should we label it as 'guts' and confer some gallantary award? Disgusting!
He confessed what? Not for some great corporate decision he took that proved disastrous for the company, but the FRAUD / STEALING OF INVESTOR"S MONEY. He was aware it as CHEATING ( Shree 420). His confession is clear and he is a criminal. What is that you guys are defending?
Someone might have got benefited by job opportunity, or some foreign-trip, few dog-biscuits , or chewed bones. It doesn't matter as far to gauge his 'guts' and 'royal birth'. For that mater, any company must hire staff & pay salaries.
I understood, you are showing GRATITUDE towards your employer. But, I am objecting to calling his confession as 'guts' or 'royal quality' or virtuous quality. They are some what different.
Posted by: Subba Rao A At: 28, Jan 2009 8:21:43 PM IST
Oh my God.. Mr.Subba Rao...what are you talking man?
Trying to compare great humanitarian (by spending his own 900 crores for more then 240 free hospitals and village SanChar (moving) health services, 104 services and an excellent service like 108 emergency service, finally more then 300 water purifying plants), revenue and job generated man to AP for 20 years (who worked more then 16 hours a day for 15 years to bring the company and his services into highest level) finally who agreed all his misacts and ready to face all lawful punishments and spending his time now in jail like a normal criminal (instead of going into a Hospital and spend rest of the days until he get bail, which every politician and move actors do), this kind of man you comparing with Masood and JUD terrorists????? Where are you man??? Are you in Pakistan?
Your questions and comparisons are 100% looks like terrorists, I can’t believe you comparing Satyam with JUD.
Today our stupid news papers like EenaDu and AndhraJyothy tring to project him like a ‘Land Mafia’, remember one thing Mr.Ramalinga Raju was No.1 richest person in AP from 1996. He started his own humanitarian services 10 years back with his own money, he no needs to buy with all this so called “Land Mafa” with looted money from Satyam, remember e owns more then 60% of satyam shares until 2000 (before going for NYSE listing).
As every one know, the profit-hike is a common practice in all corporate world, but Satyam did that in a high scale and he could not rectify that even to sacrifice his family owned Maytas.
Please STOP terrorist propaganda on good people.
Posted by: Mr. Narayana Mruthi At: 28, Jan 2009 8:06:07 PM IST
Dear Mr. Rao,
I do not think that we should compare Raju with a pick-pocketer. For argument sake, how many pick-pocketers have the guts to disclose what they have done. Here the important thing is Raju had the guts to disclose what he has done, whatever the reasons behind. We all do things which are illegal (like bribing someone, etc), but do we have the guts to disclose them.
I believe Mr.Reddy never said that Raju should be freed. I think this is your assumption.
Last but not the least, you are trying to compare 53,000 employees with 90% of JUD terrorists, which I think is not sensible.
I am not supporting Raju for his actions, but definitely he has done a lot to AP people in terms of creating employment. Apart from the 53,000 employees, there are several 1000s of ex-employees who have got better opportunities after working with Satyam.
Hope you understand what I am trying to say.
Posted by: Mr. Rubena Singh At: 28, Jan 2009 4:36:34 PM IST
SOCIAL SERVICE FOUNDATION:
Even US banned Jamat-ud-dawa(JUD/LeT of Pakistan) has Social Service face. But, they spend 10% for that and say 90% terrorist activities. They also argue based on their 'service', similar to yours. There also many ' poor mullas' became un-employed. They distributed rugs to ppl of earth-quake hit areas in Pakiland.
Don't you see the similarity between JuD & King's( I mean Raju's) argument?
Posted by: Subba Rao A At: 28, Jan 2009 8:40:01 AM IST
Me too talked about KINGS, Mr. PSR.Reddy, I didn't refer to 'kshatriya caste'. Did I?
You are so scared of cheap-news channels, sue them. But, please don't argue - " Because some cheap-media targetted him, he is innocent and shud let go!". Becoz it doesn't sound LOGICAL!
No political speeches, no side-tracks, please! Come on straight and say YES/NO.
1. Suppose, I pick-poceted your wallet and admitted that before Police. Should they let me go, freely?
2. Suppose, if I cite some great criminals, who managed to escape law, shud I also be freed?
3. Do I become pure/innocent, just by admitting my faults?
Ok, what about the KIG'S CONFESSIONS? :D
Posted by: Subba Rao A At: 28, Jan 2009 8:31:20 AM IST
Mr.SUBBA RAO... read carefully in 'Narayana murthy' article below, he clearly said “We are not taking the meaning of caste here”. So, don’t go towards caste, infect that Raju’s caste far far better then many other casts (who always strong feeling on their cast and work only based on caste) in AP today. Let’s leave the caste now.
Some of the Asatyams propagated today
- CFO committed suicide attempt. (After all one TV channel didnt get the interview from him and decided to air this rumour)
- Satyam will not pay salaries to its employees this month as per the internal mail sent to its employees (Please show one Satyam employee who received this e-mail)
- 108 services are from Government and Satyam just uses its name on that (For God's sake, every one in Andhra know who saved those thousands of lives by this great initiative. Its bad that these media giants dont ever care the lives of common people. But please dont try to defame others who were so bold enough to do that)
- Ramalinga Raju diverted all the money to his account in advance. (Why would he then put in 1200 crores of his money to save the company and why would he be prepared to give off Maytas for free just for the sake of investors)
- Ramalinga Raju flew to Texas / Dubai. (Folks... he is not an Oil thirsty person. How and where could this media get these precise cities. Afterall, dont ever treat him inlines with those cheaters that fly off the country. He is bold enough to accept the faulty accounting practises and is a great leader to take responsibility of all of that to his shoulders)
I do not understand why is media so much excited to propagate these blunders. We all know media has become irresponsible and lying around these days. But now, they prove to be cruel to play with lives of thousands of employees, lakhs of dependants on Satyam empire including their social service foundations in Andhra Pradesh. They deserve to be called cheaters and they are the real owners of the criminal liabilities in this episode.
Posted by: Mr. Seetha Ram Reddy P At: 27, Jan 2009 10:58:32 PM IST
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