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General Forum: Literature | | I padyamu yekkaDidO cheppukOnDi | |
| mottaaniki SramapaDi telusukunnaanaMDI ,
ee padyaM kaMkaMTi paaparaaju "uttara rAmAyaNaM" lOdi. sItA ammavaaru garbhavatigaa unnappuDu SrIraamuDu aametO anna maaTa idi.garbhavatulu maTTigaDDalu tiMTaarani oka lOkOkti."nI chaMdruni vaMTi mukhaanni chUsi mechchi bhU dEvi ninnu muddu peTTukuMdEmO!(sIta bhUjAta kadaa. garbhavatiyaina tanakumArtepai talli anuraagaM) lEkapOtE neemukhaM maTTivaasana eMduku vastOMdi?" ani raamayya aDigaaDani prakaraNaM.maMchi padyaM.
Posted by: Mr. narasimham bhamidipati At: 26, Apr 2009 8:47:42 PM IST
sOmuni gelchina nI nagu
mOmu dharAdEvi mechchi muddiDukonenO
kAmini ! yadi kAdEniyu
nI mogamuna maMTi tAvi yEmiTi kodaven.
Posted by: Mr. radhakrishnamurty komduri At: 25, Apr 2009 6:37:53 AM IST
sAree, nA niryati dOshAnni (tanakenta naDavakayunna pathamu tappakunDuTa) gurinchina prastAvana anukuni bhujAlu taDuvukunnAnu.
Posted by: Mr. Ramakrishna Pillalamarri At: 24, Apr 2009 11:06:26 PM IST
ee padyam tikkana bhaarataM lO udyOgaparvaM lOdi.
lOkaprasiddhamaina viduranIti padyaallO okaTi. ee nItulanu viduruDu dhRutaraashTunaku cheppaaDu.oka manishi pravartanaku EE sadguNAlu SOBanu kaligistaayO viduruDu cheptunnaaDu
Posted by: Mr. narasimham bhamidipati At: 24, Apr 2009 9:14:57 PM IST
touche!
Posted by: Mr. Ramakrishna Pillalamarri At: 24, Apr 2009 7:03:34 PM IST
tagina vEshaMbu tanudaanu pogaDukonami
nochchiyunu gIDu palukami,yichchi vagava
kuniki,tanakeMta naDavakayunna bathamu
dappakuMDuTa naDavaDi koppuchEyu.
Posted by: Mrs. bhaskara lakshmi At: 24, Apr 2009 9:50:36 AM IST
Let me respond in english, as it is quicker.
Take kanda meter. It is the easiest, (though some people look at the list of rules and think it is very hard). It is easy because there is an easy flow to it, comprises of just several 4-mAtra groups in sequence, and so on.
If one were to list all the requirements for a kanda padyam, and prioritize them, the fact that it has only UU,UII, IUI, IIU, and IIII has to come at the very top. Then perhaps the restriction that the sixth group has to be either a IIII or a IUI. Then that if you consider the 1st and 2nd lines together (and the 3rd and 4th lines together), that ja-gana cannot be in the odd position. What next? Perhaps that the first syllable in each line has to be either a laghuvu or guruvu, but cannot be mixed, and that the last syllables of 2nd and 4th should be guruvus.
These rules thus far serve to provide a type of unique flow that this particular meter possesses. Make a mistake in any of these, and you destroy the unique gait of the poem.
BTW, it is appropriate to say that these 'rules' are more derived by a process of analysis, than to say that the synthesis of these rules makes up the meter. I mean, the inherent structure of the poem was there first, and by a process of observation, a set of rules were coded to cover all possible situations.
Then may be the prAsa requirement. Then the yati. They complete the requirements. But the prAsa and yati add a bit of flair to the meter, they do not define it.
If one were to replace every guruvu in the poem with a 'kA' , and every laghuvu with a 'ka' and read it, it is possible to detect it as a kanda padyam, despite the absence of prAsa and yati in such a version.
It is not fair to say that omitting the yati is the same as putting a ja-gaNa in the odd position. Because then you lose the very essence of the meter. When the yati is omitted, sometimes it is obvious, sometimes not. There are differing opinions on what constitutes a yati. There are 50 different (probably more!) types of yatis. In fact, I might engage in perverse logic and argue that in the line
ekkuva kavitA paTutwa mokkintayu lE,
the initial e = a + i , and the vowel in the yati-position o = a + u , do in fact meet some cockamamie yati rule. (It would be wrong of course, but would seem plausible). You have seen such arguments.
let me quit here. I don't like the fact that I did not write this in Telugu as much as you do.
Posted by: Mr. Ramakrishna Pillalamarri At: 24, Apr 2009 8:53:46 AM IST
Posted by: Mr. Ramakrishna Pillalamarri At: 24, Apr 2009 7:40:42 AM IST
"aa okkaTivadilEstEnEM takkuvapadyaaniki?" aMTE "yati takkuva daanilOna nagupaDalEdaa?" ani anukuMTaaM.aMtE.okaru yati avasaramaa?anI,okaru praasa avasaramaa anI, okaru inni aksharaalu uMDalanna niyamaM eMdukanI aMTE EmanagalaM? padyamaataku okkokka aMgaM KaMDiMchinaTTu outuMdani naa abhipraayaM.mee abhipraayaM meeru cheppaarukanuka
"yu aar karekT "anaTaM tappa nEnEmI ananu.marEmI vaadana peTTukOnu.
Posted by: Mr. radhakrishnamurty komduri At: 24, Apr 2009 8:05:16 AM IST
Posted by: Mr. SATYANARAYANA PISKA At: 24, Apr 2009 7:20:29 AM IST
avunu satyanaaraayaNagaarU, nEnu porapaaTuna naMduDani Taip chESaanu.paMpina vaaDu vasudEvuDE.
dhanyavaadaalu.
Posted by: sivanagini vardhineni At: 24, Apr 2009 7:46:16 AM IST
podduna googul`-lO choosAnu, nAkoo AScharyamE vEsindi. baddena tikkanaku SishyuDaTa. atani kAlam 1210-gAnoo, pOtana kAlam 1450-gAnoo choosAnu. ee kAla nirNayAlalO okkokappuDu abhiprAya bhEdAlu unDavachchu kAnee, ikkaDa anta vivAdam lEdanukunTAnu.
moortigAriki -
chakkaTi padyAnnichchE
ekkuva kavitA paTutwa mekkaDidee? A
okkaTi vadilEstEnEm
takkuva? padyAniki yati talamAnikamA?
Posted by: Mr. Ramakrishna Pillalamarri At: 24, Apr 2009 7:40:42 AM IST
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