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| //Regarding the incarnations of Lord in kali yuga, i already discussed enough of that. Gita is very much applicable to Kali yuga as it is preached at the end of dwapara yuga. As per Gita, He keeps coming in human form. If you don't want to accept, it is up to you. It does not matter me. If Gita is not applicable, why do you quote from Gita in these discussions. Divine knowledge is universal and is applicable for all time. It is narrow minded conclusions to impose restrictions on Him or on His knowledge.//
pichchi kudirindi rOkali talaki chuTTamannaaDaTa tamalaanTi vaaDu
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 7, Jul 2007 11:01:22 AM IST
ISvarassarvabhuutaanaam hRuddESErjuna tishTati
bhraamayan~sarvabhuutaani yantraaruuDHaani maayayaa
ani kUDA gIta
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 6, Jul 2007 11:39:58 AM IST
sarvOpagatuDu anTE andarikI samIpamuna unnavaaDu ani
adE bhagavadgItalO
upadrashTaanumantaa cha bhartaa bhOktaa mahESvara@h
paramaatmEti chaapyuktO dEhEsmin~ purusha@h para@h
ani cheppaaru
I dEhamulOnunna jIvuni kanTE bhinnuDaina paramaatmuDu jIvuDu chEyuvyaapaaramunu daggaranunDi chuuchuvaaDunu, sarvavyaapaaramulanu anumOdinchuvaaDunu , sarvajagattunuu dharinchuvaaDunu, sarvajagattunuu rakshinchuvaaDunuu, sampuurNaSaktigalavaaDaguTachE goppasvaami aniyunu paramaatmuDE ani Srutula chE cheppabaDina vaaDu
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 6, Jul 2007 11:03:03 AM IST
"2) Like Tribal people, animals might be having their own form God! Who knows?! It is not fair to call animals to be against God in your discourses. "
hahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!annoey saMpIsinAvu
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"/Lord did not enter .. /"
chakri sarvoepagatuDu aMTae mejariMgu Taepu paTTukoeni sarvaejaesaeToDani sUryaM goeri tAmara kALLa voeri uppudaeSam :p
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 6, Jul 2007 10:12:22 AM IST
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 5, Jul 2007 3:00:26 PM IST
// "Gita says ‘Eka Bhakthih Vishishyate’ which means that the person having only one bond with the Lord alone is liberated" //
avunu suuryaagaari artham tappE
Ekasmin~ Eva bhakti yasya sa@h Ekabhakti@h ani. okka SrIkRushNuniyandE( kRushNvaabhinna vishNuvunandE) bhaktichEyaDam ani artham adE nEnichchina 'bhaktvaatvananyayaa'anEdi.
chaturvidhaa bhajantE maam janaasukRutinOrjuna
aartO jijNjaasurarthaarthI jNjaanI cha bharatarshabha
tEshaam jNjaanI nityayukta@ EkabhaktirviSishyatE
priyOhi jNjaaninOtyarthamaham sa cha mama priya@h
jNjaanulalO vishNuvunandE bhakti chEsEvaaDE SrEshTuDani daani artham
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 5, Jul 2007 3:30:47 PM IST
Posted by: Mr. surya prakki At: 5, Jul 2007 8:28:58 AM IST
// i) The recognition of the present living human form like Krishna, as the ultimate Lord //
avataararuupam kaaka muularuupaanni kolichi mukti pomdina vaarla maaTa EmiTi? dhRuvuDu, prahlaaduDu , ambarIshuDu inkaa anEka mandi bhaktulu ( IkaalamlO tyaagaraaju, raamadaasu, mIraabaayi modalainavaaru). kaabaTTi SaastramulalO kaliyugam lO bhagavadavataaram lEdani vunDagaa mIru cheppE kuhanaa avataaramulanu kolavavalasinadi endulaku?
//ii) Receiving divine knowledge from Him about the whole spiritual journey including the initial self attainment//
paina pErkonnavaariki bhagavantuDE upadESam cheyyalEdu. bhagavadbhaktulu (naaraduDu modalaina vaaru) chEsaaru. kaabaTTi idikuuDA tappE
//iii) Loving the Lord with single-pointed concentration and subsequent destruction of all worldly bonds //
adi evarikainaa saadhyamaa? bhagavadanugraham lEka adi saadhyapaDadu. kaabaTTi idi kUDA tappE
// iv) Finally, serving the Lord in human form by surrendering everything including words, mind, intellect, work and the fruit of work //
bhagavantuni sEvinchaDam sariggaavunnaa aa hyuuman faarm annadi tappE. muula svaruupaanni kolichi muktinandavachchu.
inni tappula taDakalu cheppi asalu vishayam daaTa vEsaarE!
bhagavantuni atyartha prasaadam valananE mOkshamu saadhyamavutundi . daaniki ananya bhakti okaTE samarthamu.
naayamaatmaa pravachanEna labhya@h na mEdhayaa na bahunaa SRutEna
yamEvaishavRuNutE tEna labhya@h tasyaisha aatmaa vivRuNutE tanuum svaam~ .... mumDakOpanishattu
naaham vEdairna tapasaa na daanEna na chEjyayaa
Sakya Evam vidhO drashTum dRushTavaanasi maam yathaa
bhaktyaa tvananyayaa Sakya ahamEvam vidhOrjuna
jNjaatum drashTum cha tattvEna pravEshTum cha parantapa
.... bhagavadgIta
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 5, Jul 2007 3:10:41 PM IST
"i) The recognition of the present living human form like Krishna, as the ultimate Lord"
till few months back, lakhs of ppl felt that kripal maharaj was reincarnation of chaitanya maharapbhu. but that damn a**hole got arrested in west indies on rape charges :P
my previous list of all livings gods stands valid too *L*
answer one simple question. u too agree that God is one. why the hell on this earth we hv too many gods, alive n kicking !!!!!!!
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iv) Finally, serving the Lord in human form by surrendering everything including words, mind, intellect, work and the fruit of work"
this is best suits for any damn dummy god to get whomsoever they want to be in his/her bed for that night
*L*
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 5, Jul 2007 3:05:27 PM IST
"Lord Himself comes down.....to satisfy the desire of devotees who want to see, talk, touch and live with Him"
damn good plan for dummy gods having summer holiday spots n spas :P
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"If one cannot recognise Lord on earth, he/she cannot recognise Lord in the upper worlds due to the same problem"
yup ! familiarity that comes out of bed room wud be quite haunting :P
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"Gita says ‘Eka Bhakthih Vishishyate’ which means that the person having only one bond with the Lord alone is liberated"
i seriously doubt ur translation of eka bhakti as one bond. how bhakti = bond :P
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"The joining report in the new institution is not possible without complete relief from the previous institution. You cannot partially join the new institution. It cannot be a side employment. Ofcourse such partial bond can be treated as the intermediate stage and is better than no bond. But the aim should not be such partial bond. If you aim at 100 marks, you may get 40 marks and pass. But if you aim at 40 marks only, you will fail. Therefore, let the aim be total liberation from the world and single bond with the God"
nothing new in this statement *L*
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 5, Jul 2007 3:00:26 PM IST
"Even scolding a co-human being is a sin"
Kicking parents is fine, right :P
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"Had He been Lord, what will be consequences?"
Lotus feet may get damaged, if u kick hard :P
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"Gopikas are liberated souls, who lived in families and latter on, they were given Goloka, which is even above brahma loka"
who said that they hv been given with Goloka?? they came from Goloka. they did their sadhana n went back to Goloka. why the hell u r confusing ppl with ur utterly wrong interpretations !!
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"Lakshmana served Lord Rama in the forests. He sacrificed his family life and he is the incarnation of Adi Sesha. He is the bed of Lord Vishnu in vaikuntha. Without liberation, how can he go to brahma loka?"
nI pichchi maMDipoenULakshmana aka Adi Sesha is not in brahma loka. he is in Vaikuta, which is much abv brahmaloka.
leaving wife n serving God doesn't mean liberated :P
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"The very liberation is to serve the Lord"
Agree but define the wrod "serve" :P.
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"King Janaka is raja yogi"
is he rajayogi bcoz he is a king? if so, u r not a king. even if u practise raja yoga , u can't be called as rajayogi. then why the hell on earth there are courses abt Raja yoga???
janaka attained brahmajnana. so he is a brahmarshi, but was ruling a country. thats all
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"Infact, all the devatas are servants of Lord only. They borned as vanaras and really served Lord Rama. If liberated soul becomes egoistic at any time, he will slip and is called yoga bhrasta. If he/she does not become egoistic by always surendering to Lord, he will continue to be in that highest loka."
at last, u said something which has got some meaning. its not just ego which makes them to slip. even a small deviation from their "dharma" even by oversight wud cause their downfall. so its not that easy to maintain devata dharma particularly when they descend on earth in human form.
here they r, a bunch of egoistic n egocentric fellas claiming themselves as gods! who ever can read the sastras with true vision, can easily strike them off as frauds *L*
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continues............
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 5, Jul 2007 2:17:17 PM IST
aeTannAru mUrtayyagoeroe bemma padavi 100 maMdi sottA? idaedoe myAchu fiksiMgu yavvAramallae uMdae? sapoeju mA garutmaMduDu bemmagoeru kAvAlanukomTae adi kudardanna mATa. aMTae A ayyagoeru eMta sAdanajaesinA palaM sikkadanna mATa.
i condemn this autocracy of upper worlds, if it so like u said. why on the heaven Sadhana should knowingly disqualify the majority & consider only a few like 100. where is the proof for ur statement !!
:P
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 4, Jul 2007 10:48:19 AM IST
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