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| "Lakshmana is a liberated soul"
"King Janaka is a liberated soul"
what are the proofs? what do u mean by liberated soul?
if lakshmana is a liberated soul why the hell he served his brother n sister-in-law in forests!!
if janaka is a liberated soul why on the earth he craved for a kid !!! why did he perform marriages not only his daughter but the three daughters of his younger brother !!! why the hell these acts of mortal bondages have been done by those so-called liberated souls !!
why the hell they didn't kick all their kith n kin away for the sake of fool's paradise, resided over by ur damn lotus feet !!
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"As long as one is equipped with true knowledge and can present logical arguments, he need not resort to personal comments"
WONDER WONDER WONDER Mr. Surya is talking abt logic :P
r u feeling that ur statements r logical !!! phhh !!!! u talk scrap. if i try to clean that scrap, u start calling me "ignorant". u open a thread with that heading. all these r LOGICAL, right !! if that so, HELL WITH UR LOGIC
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"Personal attacks are the mean methods and shows that even one does not know the minimum decorum of discussion."
why the hell i shud maintain the meanest, minimum, smallest decorum with u?? with a guy who says parents r vehment enemies, wife is a vehment enimy, kids r hinderence!! no 1 on this earth wud respect ur foolish talk !! take shelter with lotus feet & shut up urself. don't dare to teach decorums to any 1 in public forums.
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"True Brahma jnana changes an animal to human being and human being to devata (servant of Lord) if learnt and practiced in the life"
first of all u don't know the qualities of general jnana why the hell u talk abt brahma jnana. if ur lotus feet taught u that kicking parents out is brahmajnana, go n kick ur parents n be happy. don't pollute public forums with ur vehment ideas. gotcha !!!!
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 4, Jul 2007 10:33:21 AM IST
""saadhana""?
Posted by: Mr. G Subramanyam At: 4, Jul 2007 10:07:59 AM IST
maanavulu dEvatalavaru. okavELa alaanTi padavi siddhinchinaa aTupimmaTa patanam Kaayam nahushuDu laaga
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 4, Jul 2007 9:11:16 AM IST
// True Brahma jnana changes an animal to human being //
oka jantuvuki brahmajNjaanam kalugutundi aahaa aahaa Emi siddhaantam !
idi tamari uvaachaa lEka tamaguruvuladaa?
jNjaanam ponduTaku maanavajanma tappinchi vErE daarilEdu.
/ human being to devata (servant of Lord)/
dEvatalalO okkokka nirdishTa samuuhamE aayaa dEvatalavaDaaniki samarthulu. RujugaNasthulanabaDE 100 mandi viSishTadEvatalE brahma padavi arhulu. vaaru saadhana ( hanumantuDugaa avatarinchi saadhanachEyaDam valananE bhaavi brahma gaaravabOtunnaaru ) chEstEnE aapadavi vastundi.
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 4, Jul 2007 9:08:25 AM IST
do u know the story abt past life of kuchela? apply the essence of that story to the bonds & their effects.
forget abt whether soul remembers bonds or not. agree to the point that soul surely has bonds. it can't live without them. bonds r essential both for physical & metaphysical pursuit. it is up to the soul how best it can convert the physical bonds to metaphysical. never ever say that bonds r meaningless.
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everyone is bound by samskara, including Brahma. when brahma himself is bound by samskara whats fun in talking abt our sanskara?
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"A liberated soul will not have bonds even though it is amidst of the family"
again a blunder from u. a liberated soul would never gets into a family, from the word-go. mind u "from-the-word-go". read jada bharata's story.
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"Vasista said that money is the root of all this worldly family bonds (Dhanamulamidam jagat"
again, so conveniently, u fail to decipher the hidden meaning. forget abt ignorant, mortal beings. whats the real money for a sadhaka? bhakti, prapatti, serving the lord...right !!! so, even for a sadhaka dhanamulama idam jagat. it is so simple to think. but why r u failing to dig the second meaning? bcoz, u r looking at the one side of the coin. u can't see the second half as u r wearing lotus feet-make-spectacles :P
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"fraud devotees will run away"
by uttering "andha tamasu" time n again, what Mr. Murthy is shouting to his lungs' best ability is all abt these fraud devotees only. am i right sir! whats big deal abt ur description when it has been already told !!!!!
in the current world, devotees shud run away from fraudulent self-styled gods like the one in puttaparti *L*
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"You are giving your earnings to your family only and so your real love is on your family only"
how on the earth can u make such stupid statement ? how sure u r that except u & ur lotus feet, noone is doing dhana tyaga? hv u not heard abt "gupta dana" system! don't talk scrap !!!
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"You are sacrificing valueless words and valueless mind in leisure to Lord, which is valueless time"
thats the catch ! i feel that any discussion, how much worthless it cud be for u, is still a worth for me. bcoz for a simple reason that i am still thinking abt God. and u r here, trying to make it "valueless". shame on u! the great devotee!!
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"This cannot prove the real value of God"
who the heck r u to prove reality of God? ur lotus feet might be requiring a gang like u but not my god
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"You are finishing your prayers and meditation on God as soon as the time to go to job is nearing."
i wonder wonder wonder abt the height of ur stupidity. how come u dub ur misdeeds as that of whole mankind. if u r a fool, be like a fool. never dare to figure at others!!
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"Sage Vasista told Lord Rama to bring money first as Gurudakshina (pious offering to the preacher) before preaching the divine knowledge (Dhana marjaya…)."
your stupid translation of dhana marjaya is making me to wonder not just abt u but abt ur lotus feet also. what sort of dumb ass he shud be !!
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"Samsara"
whats ur level of understanding of this word? do the dissection of this word n show. grammatically derive ur meaning of "money-is-the-root-for-family" from this !! come on ! take the challenge!!
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hey ! how abt that video clip. post it fast so that ur message of hate-thy-parents can gain popularity. YouTube will make u as their honorary contributor
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 3, Jul 2007 9:05:33 PM IST
When money is absent all the family members will leave you. All family members and relatives approach you only due to money just like frogs are present in tank when it is full of water...
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Not in my case..:))
Posted by: ★Vinåyåkåm★ chitt♥♥r At: 3, Jul 2007 8:30:13 PM IST
"Lord Krishna is an avatara and His actions cannot be understood"
then, why on the earth He took that undecipherable, unpredictable, not-so-understandable, unreal avatara?
"Sadhana is for human beings"
when u kick out parents & get deprived of serving them, what the sadhana is left out?
u hv got brianwahsed that pelting petals on lotus feet is the only sadhana. go n read the puranas with your own eyes abt sadhana & its various parts & forms. for heavens sake, this time, don't use lotus feet-make-spectacles
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"In the Siriyala story...."
don't read out stories to us !! Ok
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"you don't want to do any practical sadhana but want to get the fruits of practical sadhana. Until and unless you start practical sadhana, you cannot understand the concepts"
what bullshit practical sadhana u r pondering upon? a sadhana which undermines the very parents who gave birth to u? if children r the hinderence for sadhana, why the hell God made "vivaha" as part of dharma sastra? why the hell elders & even sanyasis bless young couple saying "suputra praaptirastu". don't dare to say again that "that is our level of devotion". i know, we know, ever1 knows what sort of illogical delusion u hv
u r one of that brainwashed-bewildered-bullshitting-gang running ISKON, Puttaparti etc etc. u guys lack basic ethics n yet talk abt spiritualism. Hell with u all!
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 3, Jul 2007 2:40:40 PM IST
"The physical world is real and it is unreal for the creator only and not for you You are a part and parcel of this world and if you say that this world is unreal You too become unreal, your unreal world is your own family, which is created By yourself only and why this is unreal? '
what a illogical bullshitting in the name of spiritualism
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"Jesus goes one step further and advises you even to hate these family bonds
This is surprising but if you analyse, I should say, He is absolutely correct"
oh is that so ! by-the-name-of-jesus, post video clip where i can see u kicking hard on ur parents, wife(if existing in ur unreal world), kids (--do--)
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"The reason is that these family members were very vehement enemies to you"
this for exactly why i asked u to post video clip. But friends beware !! this guy is dangerous !!
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"In the previous birth you stole their hard earned property and fought with them Now they have come to collect their wealth from you along with the Compound interest, they are in the form of wife and children and you are bound "
the other day u talked abt grammar, some time ago u talked abt Animal Planet channel and now u talk abt commerce. where the hell is spiritualism in this ??
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"Runanubandha Rupena Pasu Patni Sutalayaah"
when u cud decipher two meanings for veda, why the hell u r not applying the same to this line too? Runam means loan only?? nothing else??
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"Payment of loans is Karma Chakra and payment in this birth is Kala Chakra"
look at ur moolaadhara chakra, it developed piles *L*
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 3, Jul 2007 1:15:00 PM IST
"Reply: It seems you are searching for bhaktas who worshipped parents or wife/husband or children and got salvation"
first u say whether u agree or not abt Pundarika's salvation !!!after all i hv searched for the truth !! much better than ur hypothetical, self-assumed bullshitting abt spiritualism
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"This is our level of devotion!!!!!!"
here every1 came to know ur level of devotion when u said "God-is-the-competitor". go n kick hard ur parents & then teach us! Ok
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“Lord Jesus stated that unless one hates his parents and children, he cannot be the dear disciple of the Lord"
who cares what jesus told when u r not able to understand what our very own veda told!!
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"Can you love a sleeping snake?"
why r u bringing Animal Planet channel into picture !! i know for what !! just to type something as u can't answer me directly *L*
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"Do you love all the babies and all the old people in the world equally?"
this is against the preachings of ur so-called human incarnation residing in puttaparti. is he not asking u & the gang to love every human !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jesus wud hv forgotten to confiscate the all-loving-preaching of my veda. and u, the theif of theives, just confiscated the idea from jesus blindly. good job done. let the lotus feet shower some petals on you
:P
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"Therefore Jesus (Human Incarnation) asks you to cut your bonds with your parents and not your bond with their old age"
what does it mean ? nothing but jugglery of words. first u separate sweet from sugar & then go for separating parents & old age
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"Even if they have bad qualities and even if they are not devoted to God, you love them blindly "
why the hell u r thinking that every1 wud be like u? blind !!!!!!!!!
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"That which did not exist in the past and that which will not exist in the future does not exist in the present also"
what a stupid argument !! on one hand u say, soul migrates from body to body on the other hand u say nothing is there in past, future & present.
when soul has to enter a body, it needs parents. when it has to live its full life, it has to develop friends & relatives. even when God descended on earth, he came via parent-child channel. e.g. vamana, rama, krishna, dattatreya.
u & ur theory is so foolish that it is undermining the very essence of Hindu way of balancing between mortal & immortal entities.
stop scratching ur ugly spiritualism here. go n read & understand the basics of hinduism. do not jump on to jesus or allah or sankara without knowing a,b,c,d of spiritualism
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 3, Jul 2007 11:27:50 AM IST
sUryAgArU cheDDapanulu chEsinavALLu narakAniki ,manchipanulu chEsinavALLu svargAniki pOtArani manapurANAlE chebutunnAyi.narakamanTE elAvunTundO , manam chEsina pApAnnibaTTi Sikshalu yElAvunTAyO vivaramgA varNinchabaDi vunnAyi. kAnii yendulOnU yentasEpU svargasukhAlanubhavistAmu ,bhagavantuni lO eikyamayipOtAmu anDamEgAnii anubhavinchinavADu cheppaDam lEdu.endulOnU vrAsilEdu.manaki teliyani AsukhAlakOsam ,bhagavantunilO liinamavaDam kOsam iibAndhavyAlani miiru tElikagAvadulukOmanaDam lO ardham lEdu.bhagavatuDu kUDA adEkOrukunTunnappuDu yIdEham yenduku yichchEDu?abhimanyuDilA yikkaDakUDA Atmala rUpamlOnE tirutUvunDE vALLam kadA ..iibhAndhavyAlu vunDEvikAvu?bhUmikUDA svargamlAnE vunDEdi?bhagavantuDu iijanmalO tallini vachchEjanmalO bhAryagA puTTinchEDanTunnAru.anTE devuDi dRushTilO manam kUDA paSuvulatOsamAnamani sphuristunnadi.nATakAniki jiivitAnikIpOlikalEdu.adivRutti dharmam ,bhAryA biDDalani pOshinchukODaniki DabbusampAdinchEmArgam.puNyam sampAdinchAlanTE AbhagavantuDE Erparachina kartavyAlani pAlInchAli. alAkAduanTE bhagavatuDu manakikUDa paSuvulakilAgE AlOchanASakti peTTakapOtE Ayana tanayishTam vachchinaTTu ADukOvachchu.appuDu dEvuDu dEvuDEkADu.vudAharaNagA dharmavyAdhuDi kadha telusukadA..
Posted by: Mrs. annapurna MadirAju At: 3, Jul 2007 11:27:24 AM IST
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