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General Forum: Religion | | God is shapeless, invisible, omnipotent, omnipresent, irrelegious.....U agree? | |
| >>>God is shapeless, invisible, omnipotent, omnipresent, irrelegious.....U agree?>>>
I do.......
Posted by: Miss Deepika J At: 17, Jan 2006 1:04:46 PM IST
Posted by: Dr. Suryadev Suryadevara At: 11, Jan 2006 3:42:02 AM IST
mIru cheppinadi baaguMdi. A paramaatmuDu "aaSrita jana pakshapaati".
iMkoMchamu aalOchistE : for example:-
janmaaMtaa paapakaaryamulu chEsi chivaruna realise ayina mahaatmula kadhalennO chadivaamu.vaariki dEvuni sannidhi lO praayaSchittamu dorikinadi.mari innaaLLu chEsina paapakaaryamulaki SrIkaaramu chuTTina vaaTi consequences 'chEsinavaaru' anubhaviMchakatappadu kadaa!
1. then what is the impact of the situation arised from those negative works done by the people(now they are pure devotees)?
2.Who is the sufferer?
Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 17, Jan 2006 11:50:53 AM IST
Posted by: Gobbemma At: 14, Jan 2006 4:14:47 AM IST
Posted by: Keerty At: 14, Jan 2006 5:07:38 PM IST
That's a good one! :))). So, the suspense continues.....
dhanyavaadamulu !!
Posted by: Suryadev At: 14, Jan 2006 11:11:13 PM IST
//Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 13, Jan 2006 8:44:31 AM IST//
Yes. I agree. "greatly" is correct!
sankraanti Subhaakaankshalu!
gobbemma, shaaloo, keerti (ve^ru ve^ru ruupaalaite^ :)) gaariki,
(gobbemmalu baagaa peTTanDi :)) )
sne^ha, anupama, kiraN , vishNu, anD Saastri gaariki kuuDaa!
sankraanti Subhaakaankshalu!
Posted by: Suryadev At: 14, Jan 2006 3:51:42 AM IST
Posted by: K Sai Kiran Kumar At: 12, Jan 2006 5:47:36 PM IST
nEneppuDu chuuDalEdu. vinalEdu.
'aakaaSaatpatitam tOyam yadaa saagara gachChati
sarvadEva namaskaaraan~ kESavam pratigachChati '
ani maa sandhyaavandanaalalO nunnadi.
sankraanti Subhaakaankshalu kiraN
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 13, Jan 2006 10:13:19 AM IST
Posted by: Keerty At: 13, Jan 2006 8:38:01 AM IST
aanglabhaashatO kashTamE. gaaD anTE?
parabrahma (vishNuvu)okkaDE. aaparabrahma viSvamantaa vyaapinchi vunnadi. jIvulu
(chaturmuKa brahma modalukoni) vEru. aajIvulukooDaa aaparabrahma valananE chEtanatvam pondutunnaaru.
''ISvara sarvabhuutaani hRuddESErjuna tishTati. bhraamayan~ sarva bhuutaani yantraaruuDhaani maayayaa '' anu bhagavadgItaa SlOkamE pramaaNam
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 13, Jan 2006 9:56:12 AM IST
Posted by: Dr. Suryadev Suryadevara At: 13, Jan 2006 3:22:10 AM IST
//I am sure that the understanding over the scriptures varies slightly from person to person. True knowledge can be found only by the mercy of the Lord. //
Only one correction it is not 'slightly' it is 'greatly'
evariyokka yOgyatanu baTTi vaaru telusukO galugutaaru. telusukODaaniki kooDaa aa parabrahma anugraham vunDaali aaparabrahma svaruupam puurtigaa telusukODaaniki evarikI saadhyam kaadu. telusukODaaniki kooDaa aa parabrahma anugraham vunDaali.
bhEdam badulugaa abhEdam ani telusukunTE chuuDDaaniki konchem ( a okkaTE tEDaa)
gaa kanipinchinaa mottam vErainaTlukadaa
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 13, Jan 2006 9:44:31 AM IST
Posted by: Gobbemma At: 12, Jan 2006 6:56:16 PM IST
vishNu sahasranaamam anaDam lOnE avannI vishNuvu yokka naamaalE annadi suspashTam. 'vyaasamaharshi iddaruu vEru vEru kaadu okE oka parabrahmayokka svaruupamE ani uddESyinchi cheppinavE kadaa avi' ani mI bhaashyam kaabOlu.
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 13, Jan 2006 9:29:42 AM IST
Posted by: Keerty At: 12, Jan 2006 6:03:32 PM IST
Posted by: Gobbemma At: 12, Jan 2006 5:36:31 PM IST
Posted by: Keerty At: 12, Jan 2006 6:05:28 PM IST
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 9, Jan 2006 9:05:47 AM IST
pai pOshTingulO cheppinaTlugaa ( puurNamada@h puurNamidam ) vishNuvu yokka muula ruupaalakuu avataararuupaalaku bhEdam lEdu. avataararuupaalu kooDaa muularuupaalavale anninTilOnu puurNaSakti, jNjaanamayamainavE.
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 13, Jan 2006 9:22:40 AM IST
//Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 9, Jan 2006 9:05:47 AM IST//
//Posted by: Mrs. shaloo At: 9, Jan 2006 2:52:12 PM IST//
I am sure that the understanding over the scriptures varies slightly from person to person. True knowledge can be found only by the mercy of the Lord. What ever I believe need not be acceptable to everyone. Please find the following explanation given by his divine grace Srila Prabhupada as I was born ignorant and in darkness and I can't understand Sanskrit without seeing through him. For that matter without someone like him God is a dark matter or Black hole to me. There are thousands of Bhagavad gita versions written in several languages or perhaps equal number of commentaries available. We are free to choose whatever we like.
Yes, I agree with Shaloo gaaru if one does his duty without selfish motives, he may be a Paramatma. That is a good thought and hope many would believe in that concept. But the propensity of human beings is to cheat. However if someone is not happy even after living as Paramatma's way as he described, perhaps he will look for better. However the explanation for "Paramatma" given by Srila Prabhupada is quite impressive. May be I can attach it after a short while as of now I don't want to fill up with pages.
(ISOPANISAD Invocation)
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om purnam adah purnam idam
purnat purnam udacyate
purnasya purnam adaya
purnam evavasisyate
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om--the complete whole; purnam--perfectly complete; adah--that; purnam-- perfectly complete; idam--this phenomenal world; purnat--from the all-perfect; purnam--complete unit; udacyate--is produced; purnasya--of the complete whole; purnam--completely, all; adaya--having been taken away; purnam--the complete balance; eva--even; avasisyate--is remaining.
TRANSLATION
The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete, and because He is completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced of the complete whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the complete whole, even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete balance.
PURPORT
The complete whole, or the Supreme Absolute Truth, is the complete Personality of Godhead. Realization of impersonal Brahman or of Paramatma, the Supersoul, is incomplete realization of the Absolute Complete. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is sac-cid-ananda-vigraha, and impersonal Brahman realization is the realization of His sat feature, or His aspect of eternity, and Paramatma or Supersoul realization is the realization of His sat and cit features, His aspects of eternity and knowledge. Realization of the Personality of Godhead, however, is realization of all the transcendental features -- sat, cit and ananda, bliss. When one realizes the Supreme Person, he realizes these aspects in complete form (vigraha). Thus the complete whole is not formless. If He were formless, or if He were any less than His creation in any way, He could not be complete. The complete whole must contain everything both within and beyond our experience, otherwise He cannot be complete.
The complete whole, the Personality of Godhead, has immense potencies, all of which are as complete as He is. Thus this phenomenal or material world is also complete in itself. The twenty-four elements of which this material universe is a temporary manifestation are arranged to produce everything necessary for the maintenance and subsistence of this universe. No other unit in the universe need make an extraneous effort to try to maintain the universe. The universe functions on its own time scale, which is fixed by the energy of the complete whole, and when that time schedule is complete, this temporary manifestation will be annihilated by the complete arrangement of the complete.
All facilities are given to the complete units (namely the living beings) to enable them to realize the complete whole. All forms of incompletion are experienced due to incomplete knowledge of the complete whole. The human form of life is a complete manifestation of the consciousness of the living being, and it is obtained after evolving through 8,400,000 species of life in the cycle of birth and death. If the living entity does not realize his completeness within the complete whole in this human life, which is blessed with full consciousness, he loses the chance to realize his completeness and is again put into the evolutionary cycle by the law of material nature.
Because we do not know that there is complete arrangement in nature for our maintenance, we make efforts to utilize the resources of nature to create a so-called complete life of sense enjoyment. Because the living entity cannot enjoy the life of the senses without being dovetailed to the complete whole, the misleading life of sense enjoyment is considered illusion. The hand of a body is a complete unit only as long as it is attached to the complete body. When the hand is severed from the body, it may appear like a hand, but it actually has none of the potencies of a hand. Similarly, living beings are parts and parcels of the complete whole, and if they are severed from the complete whole, the illusory representation of completeness cannot fully satisfy them.
The completeness of human life can only be realized when one engages in the service of the complete whole. All services in this world -- whether social, political, communal, international or even interplanetary -- will remain incomplete until they are dovetailed with the complete whole. When everything is dovetailed with the complete whole, the attached parts and parcels also become complete in themselves.
Posted by: Suryadev At: 13, Jan 2006 4:22:10 AM IST
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