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General Forum: Current 'Affairs' | | Talks between Govt. and Naxals : Can we expect peaceful life? | |
| Read that shameless as "shamelessly"
and yeah I agree with NTVodu ...
No party is democratic in contemporary India. The question here is ... DO WE DESERVE THIS KIND OF DEMOCRACY WITHOUT DISCIPLINE?
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 10, Feb 2005 12:32:47 PM IST
Saleem,
What do u call a person who opposes naxal killings on paper but passes secret messages to the followers to justify the killings and generate sympathy for naxals?
An idealist in line for a Nobel peace prize?
I would prefer to call him a Hypocrite
And what do u call a human-rights activist who instructs his followers to physically attack the opponents and threaten them with palmphlets in order to silence them?
and @ SDB,
I never said Congress is doing the right thing .. but I am unable to understand the argument that Naxals can kill the people but the Govt should deal with them in Democratic way!!!
My point was that if u want to kill the police then go ahead but let police kill u too .. the mighty will ultimately win .. U dont need to hide yourself shameless behind these so called human rights groups
and if u want to solve it peacefully then let both parties follow the path of peace .. ante gaani memu champutam meeru noru moosukuni koorchoindi ante .. it doesnt work out
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 10, Feb 2005 12:26:02 PM IST
Can someone tell me why Haragopal and Balagopal support the naxals. What is it that they want? They want land for the poor. What will a poor man do with land. You need fertilizer, pesticide, water , power etc. Who will pay for it. And why the obsession with land? Already there is excess output in many products. Farmers are throwing out crops because the excess supply had brought prices below costs!
What is needed is to provide employment for large number of people. That means we have to ensure and support the creation of companies and organizations. Yet the haragopals and balagopals are anti-capatalism.
I dont know why they can't think over such issues.
Oh ....Now I get it . If buses are torched, telephone exchanges and railway stations are burnt, then the economy is helped ..... by recreating the assets !!!!
And if naxalism is stopped, the large police battalions have to be closed.
Posted by: Ms. sapna endurthi At: 10, Feb 2005 9:58:59 AM IST
MR,
I was particularly interested about his (balagopal) idealogy. When you said hypocrite, I was wondering if you can substaniate that point. Thanks anyway.
Btw I know haragopal, a close ralative.
Sorry for going at tangents to the discussion.
Posted by: Saleem At: 9, Feb 2005 11:25:01 PM IST
First provoke chesindi evaru Andhrudu gaaru .. Vizag district lo Mines petti pelchindi?
State cadre ni emi cheyyaddu ani control cheyyadam goppa vishayam emi kaadu .. Dawood Ibrahim gang kooda time favorable ga lenappudu noru moosukune untundi. Naxals bayataki silent ga kanipinchi .. under the cover balam penchukunnaru ane kada prati report chepondi?
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 9, Feb 2005 5:38:50 PM IST
topic divert kaakunDaa.. individuals meeda focus poakunDaa charchinchanDi.
okaTi gamaninchidaemiTaanTae...modaTa talks between govt. and naxals : can we expect a peacuful life? anna vishayam gurinchi specific gaa discuss chaeyamani manavi.
kaasaepu naxals daridrulaa manchi vaallaa anae vishayam pakkaku peDitae.....charchalaku maemu munduku vastunnaamu ani mundu paDDam aahvaaninchadagga vishayamae kadaa?....adi ae agenda toa chaestunnaru ani charcha ikkaDa asandarbham anukunTaa. endukanTae prabhutvaaniki maatram prajala paina Santi paina raajyaangam paina apaara maina praemato charchalaku koorchodu kabaTTi daani agendaa daaniki unTundi kaabaTTI. ikkada paurulugaa manam aaSinchaalisindaemanTae.....chitta Suddi kanabarustunnaraa charchala vishayamloa ani?....sarae baaboo naxalaiTlu durmaargulae...mari prabhutvam durmaargatvam gurinchi maaTaaDarae?....evaru modaTagaa leegalgaa unDae ammayini paTTukeli champindi? evaDu leegal gaa tirigae intermediate kurraanni paTTukelli kaalchi champindi? evaDu jana jeevana sravantiloa kalavanDi anToonae oka pakka sabhalaku tarali vachchae prajalanu harass chaesi provoke chaesindi. idaem goDava..jana jeevana sravantiloaki rammanTaaru...vastae sabhalaku anumati ivvaru paigaa harass chaestaaru ?.... this is the limit...when u think u have responsibility towards ur people and u wanna give them the peace what they want.....is this the way u mock the democarcy on onside calling them for discussions and provoking them in the name of law and order on the other side? asalu prajala gurinchi ennikalloa charchala gurinchi vaagDaanaalu chaesi gelichi...ila inta public gaa maaTa tappaDam anta daaruNam edannaa unTundaa?....ledanTae declare openly there is one solution to naxals problem in India ...only encounters either fake or true !! ika charchala goDava daeniki? law and order daani pani adi chaesukovaali annappuDu ...inkoaa pakka naksal samasya oka saanghika rajakeeya samasya ani vaagaDam enduku? naksal samasya Saanti bhadratala samasya anae cheppochchugaa? asalu prabhutvaanikae ee raajyaangam meeda nammakam laedu. nor any political party including BJP, CPI and CPM, TRS....as they have become silent spectators of mockery by Govt...dont they really have responsibility to demand whats the stand of Govt. in specific on naxals ..whether it is a problem of socio political angleor a law and order problem? okaTi maatram nijam...prabhutvam raajyaangaanni public gaa dishonour chaestundi. this is a serious issue and govt. shd show all its sincerity in resolving the naksal problem by all constitutional means ennikalloa charchala gurinchi vaagdaanam chaesinappuDu law and order problem gurtu raalaedoo?..durmaargulu ani anukundaamu naksalaiTlanu. oka underground organisation ayi unDi raashTram mottam tama cadre nu charchala samayamloa prabhutvaaniki vyatiraekangaa ae pani chaeyakunDaa gammununDamani manage chaesaarae? adi ae kaaraNaalaitaenaemi !!... provoke chaesaaka kooDaa..chaetulu muduchuku koorchoanDi naayana.raajyaangam follow avudaamu anaDaaniki balam ekkaDa nunDi vastundi?.....naenu anukunae daemanTae ee musuguloa guddulaaTalu vaddu..prajalaku kaavalsindi prabhutvam aemi anukunTundi ani. naxal samasya oka Saanti bhadratala samasyaa? laeka saanghika raajakeeya samasyaa? taelchi cheppaali !...ika prajala gurinchaa.....ilaagae kona saagitae...raajyaangam oka chetta bukku daani meeda prabhutvam antaTi goppa institution kae nammakam laedu..manam nammaDam verri vengalappa tanam anukuni....naksalaiTlainaa avutaaru...inkoaa udyama kaarulannaa avutaaru...inkoa tirugubaaTu daarulannaa avutaaru...appuDu mallee law and order problem ani aedchi laabham laedu.
Posted by: Mr. Aandhrudu At: 9, Feb 2005 3:09:28 PM IST
BTW Prof Haragopal is with the Dept of Political Science, - Hyderabad Central University.. A research student of his is a good friend of mine too
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 9, Feb 2005 1:18:26 PM IST
I know Haragopal pretty well .. I stayed in Hyderabad Central University Campus for 4 years for my PhD. I happened to attend a few meetings convened by a group called Progressive Student Forum (Which was banned by the University Authorities because of the proximity of the group to the Naxals and also the alleged involvement in Vyas's murder) ... and happened to see Balagopal there .. For Haragopal the level of hypocracy is 9 on the scale of 1 to 10 and for Balagopal I would give a 6( based on his statements on the stage and his message to supporters off the stage).. but I reiterate .. Sankaran is a nice person!
My Grandma's sister was a Naxal..!
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 9, Feb 2005 1:16:32 PM IST
MR,
How closely you know these naxals? And I am particualry interested about this guy balagopal? what is his idealogy etc? I want to understand the level of hypocrasy!
Posted by: Saleem At: 9, Feb 2005 1:04:02 PM IST
Posted by: Ms. sapna endurthi At: 9, Feb 2005 10:38:59 AM IST
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Okay cool .. I had a feeling u were referring to the caste .. may be I was wrong ...
and about the Naxalite issue ...
Irrespective of the caste of the Naxals I can say that more than 90% of current day Naxals are corrupt, having seen them from a close distance, and its an open fact that they are no different from the underworld .. time and again it has been said that they operate with the help of ISI (And still talk about the nation .. thats the joke!) ...
They keep killing people and the moment they see a BSF soldier in the jungles they cry for Human rights ...
They dont wanna leave weapons but they oppose modern weapons being given to cops
They think its their right to get involved in guerilla warfare but oppose Green tigers
(One can list out dozens of such things)
Among their leaders .. I think only Sankaran is a man of intergrity (I know him personally and I met him too) .. and NO, definitely not hypocrites like Haragopal and Balagopal
Posted by: Malakpet Rowdy At: 9, Feb 2005 12:48:30 PM IST
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