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| /*Perhaps jesus was great in fighting the existing jewish norms of the society.. within his capabilities he gave some theories or some solace to the poor with his theories and was killed for education the poor/*
Good way of seeing it. My respect for him increases more and more, if he is been treated as 'human being', with such great acheivements.
Posted by: Saleem At: 27, Apr 2004 0:59:15 AM IST
Hi Vijaya Garu,
Science is a field where you are trying to understand the logic which God has used in creation. There are chances that it can be totally different.
The simple thing , when we say Rose is red , we are not saying only with the reason that we see it as red , we can prove it by the contents the rose petal is having and other stuff, which is a part of science .
I don' feel anyone will say that There is no God and there is science only , that can be because of reason that yes we are doing something with science which was not there before .
Does God knows about Crocin tablet , which we use in fever? It is a creation which has came from science , which is from experience . That is the way we came to know what should be the composition of Crocin tablet should be.
You asked the question "Can it stop death" , i am asking why are you asking so extreme question ? With science (specially medical sceince) we are able to increase the life span of person to some considerable years , which is somewhat similar to stopping death .
You asked "Can it put back life in dead man"
Have you ever seen in real world any dead man has got life ? no , it is somewhat unfair if you expect science to do that .
And dear friend , science is a process of progress , we don't know how much percentage we have completed in science . The questions you posed may not be answerable now , but there are chances that in future we can get some more accurate and nearer answers . But scieince is basically to know how and why the things are happening , once they are known , the facts are being used in order to make the life easier for human being .
-Somesh
Posted by: Mr. Someswara Rao At: 25, Apr 2004 7:52:04 PM IST
excerpts from the site.....
/Although Einstein stated he was religious and that he believed in God, it was in his own specialized sense that he used these terms. Many are aware that Einstein was not religious in the conventional sense, but it will come as a surprise to some to learn that Einstein clearly identified himself as an atheist and as an agnostic./
...I was just trying to convey you that Einstein was also an atheist, which contradicts ur statement "he was strongly convinced of the creation of the universe by a Supreme Intelligence"
Posted by: విజయ్ At: 25, Apr 2004 7:21:56 PM IST
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Even Einstein, the scientist, was strongly convinced of the creation of the universe by a Supreme Intelligence.
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Anu,
go through this link again given by How many lives per liter to know Einstein's view about god..
http://jeromekahn123.tripod.com/thinkersonreligion/id8.html
Posted by: విజయ్ At: 25, Apr 2004 8:53:32 AM IST
BS of D,
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You hate someone to your guts, you just cant stand them, sometimes you feel like killing them and sometimes some do. And then there is this feeling of guilty for your actions. Where does guiltiness come from? You shouldn’t steal, murder, lie ..who is drawing this line between what is good and what is bad. Who’s making these rules that govern us instinctively? There is something intrinsic about our body which gives us a consciousness of what is right and what is wrong, like a set of rules inbuilt in us. How can we disprove its not God that’s writing these rules in us?
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I assume from this that, u beleive in the concept of "god lies within us", or for the matter of fact,in all the living creatures around us.And the GOD within us,according to ur(theist's) definition is SOUL , right? Or GOD and SOUL r different? Ok..lets consider for a while that its god who writes rules of good and bad within our minds. Then why always bad is credited for the deeds of humans and for good things,credit is given to god? From where the feeling of guilt or evil is generated? Is society around us created by god? I hope the answer is NO.Then I consider,the rules of good, bad or evil are also written by society(humans) around us.Then where is role of god in creating rules?
It is the pre-assumption from eras, that ,what ever good is GOD and whatever bad is creation of humans.
As a sidenote for this, there is a saying in god followers.."eeswarudi agnya lekunda cheema kuda chitukku manadhu"...so shall I consider that god is somewhere responsible for all the devastation,calamities and religious turmoil around the world?
And one more question about SOUL...does all the living creatures, including we humans, have the same SOUL? I mean that to say that, is there any distinction or special criteria in assigning SOUL to particular living being?
~more to follow after ur response
Posted by: విజయ్ At: 25, Apr 2004 7:12:20 AM IST
TO ME GOD IS FAITH!
NAA AAH NAMMAKAM MEEDE NAA PRAPANCHAM! :)
Posted by: VIRGO Gal At: 25, Apr 2004 3:44:03 AM IST
Atlast you took the shelter of faith and experience. So funny . ok we call it a day then bye .
Posted by: Mr. MAHESWARA MAHI At: 24, Apr 2004 11:57:33 PM IST
Mrs.Anupama,
well, if i dont believe in the science textbooks and scientists, i can go to space and experience the force myself. Likewise i can test and know many things if they exist or not . Scientific discoveries annintiki proofs vnnayi and we have evidence for those .
Your ponit in relating the god to these scientific proofs which are based on facts is not valid.
Mrs.N.Vijaya,
in my last discussion about ten months back i have proved the nonexistance of your god. Still you people dont agree with me. Hence i came up with this idea. Why not you people prove its existance?
Dont tellme cock and bull stories like, its an experience, its spiritual etc stuff. Prove with facts.
Posted by: Mr. MAHESWARA MAHI At: 24, Apr 2004 10:41:45 PM IST
Conscience!
Posted by: చంటోడు At: 23, Apr 2004 11:10:16 PM IST
hmmmz..good discussion..carry on ..waiting for final conclusion..;)
Posted by: విజయ్ At: 23, Apr 2004 7:00:43 AM IST
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