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Restore Telugu Pride

What's the difference between Aryans migration & Aryans Invasion? 1. Aryans migrated for business ( Like Brittish)? 2. Aryans invaded " Sindhi Valley " ? Persians - Iranians very softspoken like their language they never ventured any attacks any whaere in the history. You can check the Parsys in India and their management TATA. Snachara jeevulu yeppudu o chota aga ledu. Israel: Recently posted one of the news paper that " DOMMARA" a community migrated long back ; No citizenship ; Govt. did not recognize them; When their forefathers come to that area no idea ( because it was not under Israel control during period) Guys don't confuse your selves much because AP people will not leave their place in the first palce. They will bring PM recomendation to stop any official transfers. The first life is at equator and they spread throughout after that many interchanges and exchanges. Fire is the GOD for parsys as well as Hindus; Why silly argument that fire is not treated as GOD by Hindus. For your information there is " LIPI " for sanskrit.

Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 3, Aug 2004 9:49:34 PM IST

Bahudoorapu, The answer is simple - One can scream at Sanskrit, Hinduism and especially Brahmins how much ever you want and no one defends them. You see, it is easy to blame them for all of one's problems and abuse the very civilization that gave us so much. It is as simple as that. So blame Sanskrit for your problems and since Tamil Dravidianists have been raving about that for some time, join the bandwagon; These neo-Dravidianists have no originality of their own anyway. Hi Vidya SR, I am NOT going to reply to anything from that religious fanatic Vachaspati. However, Here is my position in simple: I have been attacked for stating that Telugu history is a part of larger Indian civilization. 1) Historically Classical Telugu civilization has identified itself with and drawn inspiration from Sanskrit-based culture rather than from Tamil. 2) Although the Telugu and Tamil languages share common origin and share great culutral affinity, Telugu adopts the pan-Indian vision from Sanskrit as a part of larger Indian civilization rather than a limited Tamil/Dravidianist seperatist vision. 3)Due to these reason, I stated that Telugu should NOT be equated with "Tamil Dravidianism" or "Anti-Sanskrit"ism since Sanskrit is a part of Telugu history and we should be proud of it as did the illustrious lineage of great Kings from Simukha Shatakarni to Krishna Deva Raya who drew their inspiration directly from Sanskrit culture. Mr. Vachaspati however has been doing his best to sidetrack the discussion with his rantings on how "hettites" invented "sanskrit" in 3,500 B.C and how "Aryans" are "invaders". If you go back in this discussion, you will find his "enlightened" rantings including how Hindus are followers of "Satan" and how Hinduism is based on False beliefs!!

Posted by: Mr. Aditya Vedula At: 3, Aug 2004 9:23:25 PM IST

Both were away from the calender and the state borders. I wohder TP.COM has any talking buddy.

Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 3, Aug 2004 8:56:13 PM IST

Both were away from the calender and the state borders.

Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 3, Aug 2004 8:55:08 PM IST

hello, I have tried to follow this discussion thread, but was not able to do so due to the nature of the posts. I was looking for Telugu Pride and the posts were about language and personal insults. Can the main posters please (Vachaspathi, Aditya, etc.) state what their position is with respect to the topic? Or can someone please explain to me what is going on? Thanks

Posted by: Vidya SR At: 3, Aug 2004 8:32:42 PM IST

Kiranji... Please log-on to messenger.

Posted by: Mr. Vachaspathi V At: 3, Aug 2004 4:35:52 PM IST

Hello Kiranji... where u went? U r not seen now a days!

Posted by: Mr. Vachaspathi V At: 3, Aug 2004 4:24:54 PM IST

Adityaji.... Yes. Very lengthy response. If you have better knowledge about me, why don't U give a detailed response on my comments correcting me! I am seriously asking this. I take that response print and study the facts and if necessary correct myself!

Posted by: Mr. Vachaspathi V At: 3, Aug 2004 4:06:59 PM IST

Dear Mr.Vachaspati, Your mealy-mouthed rant: "The revival of ongoing debate is due to Right Wing fundamentalists who follow bigotry" Really? Let me quote Sri.B.R.Ambedkar => "theory of invasion is an invention. This invention is necessary because of a gratuitous assumption that the Indo-Germanic people are the purest of the modern representation of the original Aryan race. The theory is a perversion of scientific investigation. It is not allowed to evolve out of facts. On the contrary, the theory is preconceived and facts are selected to prove it. It falls to the ground at every point." So according to you Dr.B.R.Ambedkar is a "Right wing fanatic" ? And how about yourself? ARE YOU SECULAR? You called all Hindus "followers of Satan" in this very discussion forum. How dare you call anyone else a fanatic!! Is that what you learned living in Andhra among Hindus Mr.Vachaspati? That Hindus follow Satan? Who is the bigot and "right wing fanatic" here? As for your quote that "Aryans are invaders" - unfortunately you are the one that has to live with that for the rest of your sorry life. I have no such problem. I am equally proud of Telugu and the noble civilization that Sanskrit bestowed on Andhra and the entire world. I also request you to kindly glean this "pure telugu" from the "corrupt" classical telugu with all that horrible Sanskrit and publish a book on it for the benefit of society - along with your theory on how "hettites" (as you spell it) were really "Aryans" that destroyed India and "bugazkui" is where "crude words of sanskrit" started in "3,500 B.C". <= That is the extent of your knowledge. As for posting a reply, please don't bother and have a good life if you can - and learn some religious tolerance from the Hindus around you instead of abusing them.

Posted by: Mr. Aditya Vedula At: 3, Aug 2004 12:50:56 PM IST

In the end, I do not like communicating with bigots like Mr.Vachaspati. ... Then Better to stop.

Posted by: Mr. Vachaspathi V At: 3, Aug 2004 11:08:12 AM IST

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