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The story of Taj Mahal

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Friends, Are u aware that there are some of the Islamic schools where they are dedicated to teach how to use weapons (on Hindus)only. The matha gurus in those schools and organizations are inviting the youth in the name of Islam and offering them pay to join. Most of the Islamic youth in our country getting attracted to join in these schools based on the money they are offering. So many Islamic (Pakistani)terrorist organizations and Muslim Business magnets are funding these schools. All these schools are run in various parts of our country with the money which is generated in India. Please name one such organization which is working for Hindus? In my humble opinion VHP, working for self political significance. Siva sena working for Marathas only. RSS working for BJP. They(the so called Hindu organizations and the Islamic terrorists in India) say they are working for Hindus. I heard that a Hindu lady with Sindhooram on her forehead can not walk through some of the streets in Hyderabad old city. If that is true, it is time to join the hands to safegaurd our religion, our people and our country. However all these are raw facts. I would request intellectuals, professionals, journalists to refine these facts and show to our public, if possible. "Ekkado oka chota modalu pettandi....vijayam manade" cheers Murali

Posted by: Mr. prasanth N At: 30, Nov 2001 10:28:53 AM IST

Interesting article, appreciate Author for bringing “Dark rooms in our history” in to the light, Past few days I am reading articles in this site, but today one thing made me very happy “incredible support to author” Great job friends. KEEP IT UP! There are millions of unfortunate things happened against Indians in past. Rulers from all over the world tried hundreds of year to implement their practices, what happened? Proven that our religion practices are remarkable. I believe there is no threat for HINDUISM. But I am sure we have problems with our “opportunist secular politicians”. Best example is criticism against “Jyotisha shastra” made by our imported “proposed PM”. We should respect our fellow citizen's beliefs and we should prove we NO LONGER TOLERATE anti-nationalists and Anti religionists. Thanks Ravikiran

Posted by: Mr Ravikiran R At: 30, Nov 2001 4:47:07 AM IST

well said mr Gopi KA and MR Murali........what India needs at this stage is a Swami Vivekananda and a Balgangadhar Tilak in every town and city. Since its an impossible thing let us as Indians and hindus strive for uplifting our culture and religion. Let us make the world realise that Hinduism is not a religion but its a "WAY OF LIFE" . Let us not vote for the politicians who are contesting and dividing voters on the basis of caste(not religion). Again a question may arise if Hinduism is so great then why is this discrimination between different castes and why these reservations for BC, SC, and ST...... Already there is an answer for this question....."GO BACK TO VEDAS" ....."GO BACK TO GEETHA"....manishi kulam aa manishi chese karmanu batti kani janmanu batti kadu. A "brahmin" if interested in manual work will be called a "shudra" and similarly if a "Shudra" is interested in vedas or vaidikam he will be called a "brahmin" and this applies to all proffessions and it is very clearly said that caste is determined not by birth but by proffession. All this discrimination between castes is our own doing and its not the fault of "Hinduism". More than that this is our internal affair and we are trying to get rid of that ill. Let us teach a lesson to those who are playing with our culture , religion and counrty in the veil of Secularism and Democracy. Long Live India and Long Live Hinduism. Correct me if iam wrong....

Posted by: Ms meghana n At: 29, Nov 2001 9:10:26 PM IST

Right, Lets not criticise the other religions at the same time lets not allow others to criticize our religion or do something with it.We have some beleif in our religion and we are taught something about all which Mr. Gopi mentioned. This is one angle. Lets see the problem in totality. Those who born in the soil of great minds, to be specific in India, they must have a faith to that country. Though there are several religions living together, Hindus(we) never saw other religions separately. But when other religions see us, the Hindus, separately......definitely we will not allow them. One must remember that India is Hindus country. For that matter, Bachchaa countries which are born from India are basically Hindu countries. If a bachaa is against India, why some of the people, who got everything from India, want to join that bachaa still residing in India. Those who want to join with the bachaas, who are against India, can leave India and can stay with them. This is reasonable option. As India is democratic, free country the real Indians give this option naturally to them. This is not to pain those people who are against India and Hindus. I dont think the real Indians differ with my opinion. If they differ, please explain me reason so that I will correct it, if I am wrong. Cheers Murali

Posted by: Mr. prasanth N At: 29, Nov 2001 3:32:19 PM IST

Dear friends, as i see this problem, this is a burning issue. Every real Indian has the same feelings but afraid to come out. I am not sure of the percentage people but definetely there are people against our country. This is evident if we see in old city of Hyderabad. radhi

Posted by: Mr Murali Krishna J At: 29, Nov 2001 7:24:08 AM IST

Mr. murali , you are exactly right, but that is not 17% , it is 12% only.

Posted by: Mr. Venkateswara Rao Nuthalapati At: 27, Nov 2001 11:34:35 AM IST

I request all Indians.....pls dont say "we are secular country..we should not talk about other religions..Do you know 17% of our population in India are primarily against Indians and secondarily on Hindus." I am not gonna talk all about those facts against other religions. I am talking about those who are against my country. The India gave/giving the shelter to them, jobs under minority categories, food in the form of businesses. What the hell they are giving in return to India? Can somebody beleive me if I say most of our money is spent on Internal security and border security due to the issues rose by these guys. The valuable time, the money, and the efforts are spent on these people and the problems created by them in India. How one can think of developement in that so called great country? who the hell Osama Bin Laden and Talibans are? Does India have any relations with them? But they have the support in India, shame to say.Pls dont keep mum on these issues. It is our duty to save our country and and we are responsible if India is un developed!! One must realize he/she is born in the soil of wonderful people, huge resources and great minds. One must realize the Mother India has seen so many wars and doesnt want to see anymore. She wants piece and her children to be happy. Lets strive for it, atleast the future generation will see the developed nation with our stories reading.. Any thoughts Murali

Posted by: Mr. prasanth N At: 27, Nov 2001 7:06:06 AM IST

hi murali....i was really shocked after reading your article. Being a history student myself i never came across this . Hundreds of temples were converted to mosques.....but no one should speak about this coz ours is a secular country and hindus should not speak about all these things.It ll become another raging issue. I hate to post this as an anonymous user coz i don't want to receive any hate mails (basing on my previous experience for writing a similar fact). Any way thanks for positng such an interesting thing..... keep it up

Posted by: Ms meghana n At: 26, Nov 2001 11:33:08 PM IST

Hi Murali Good work. Keep it up. Actually I know some facts of this but not so deep. I think our people will take this in right way not like Ayodhya issue. While reading this for a moment I thought our silly people can take this issue and use for their cheap politics. Knowing facts and telling the truth to the public is right way but our Indian politics are so bad that they can use any issue for their cause. I hope the Grand TajMahal should keep India proud let it be a tomb of some queen or a temple. Enjoy the beuty of it. Madhu Note : Please readers don't tell this to our politicians.

Posted by: Ms Madhu T At: 22, Nov 2001 7:47:11 AM IST

"The Moghul Emperor Shah Jahan in the memory of his wife Mumtaz Mahal built the Taj Mahal. It was built in 22 years (1631 to 1653) by 20,000 artisans brought to India from all over the world. Many people believe Ustad Isa of Iran designed it." This is what your guide probably told you if you ever visited the Taj Mahal. This is the same story I read in my history book as a student in India. No one has ever challenged it except Prof. P. N. Oak, who believes the whole world has been duped. In his book Taj Mahal: The True Story, Oak says the Taj Mahal is not Queen Mumtaz's tomb but an ancient Hindu temple palace of Lord Shiva (then known as Tejo Mahalaya). In the course of his research Oak discovered that the Shiva temple palace was usurped by Shah Jahan from then Maharaja of Jaipur, Jai Singh. In his own court cronicle, Badshahnama, Shah Jahan admits that an exceptionally beautiful grand mansion in Agra was taken from Jai SIngh for Mumtaz's burial. The ex-Maharaja of Jaipur still retains in his secret collection two orders from Shah Jahan for surrendering the Taj building. Using captured temples and mansions, as a burial place for dead courtiers and royalty was a common practice among Muslim rulers. For example, Humayun, Akbar, Etmud-ud-Daula and Safdarjung are all buried in such mansions. Oak's inquiries began with the name of Taj Mahal. He says the term "Mahal" has never been used for a building in any Muslim countries from Afghanisthan to Algeria. "The unusual explanation that the term Taj Mahal derives from Mumtaz Mahal was illogical in atleast two respects. Firstly, her name was never Mumtaz Mahal but Mumtaz-ul-Zamani," he writes. Secondly, one cannot omit the first three letters 'Mum' from a woman's name to derive the remainder as the name for the building." Taj Mahal, he claims, is a corrupt version of Tejo Mahalaya, or Lord Shiva's Palace. Oak also says the love story of Mumtaz and Shah Jahan is a fairy tale created by court sycophants, blundering historians and sloppy archaeologists. Not a single royal chronicle of Shah Jahan's time corroborates the love story. Furthermore, Oak cites several documents suggesting the Taj Mahal predates Shah Jahan's era, and was a temple dedicated to Shiva, worshipped by Rajputs of Agra city. For example, Prof. Marvin Miller of New York took a few samples from the riverside doorway of the Taj. Carbon dating tests revealed that the door was 300 years older than Shah Jahan. European traveller Johan Albert Mandelslo, who visited Agra in 1638 (only seven years after Mumtaz's death), describes the life of the city in his memoirs. But he makes no reference to the Taj Mahal being built. The writings of Peter Mundy, an English visitor to Agra within a year of Mumtaz's death, also suggest the Taj was a noteworthy building ling well before Shah Jahan's time. Prof. Oak points out a number of design and architectural inconsistencies that support the belief of the Taj Mahal being a typical Hindu temple rather than a mausoleum. Many rooms in the Taj Mahal have remained sealed since Shah Jahan's time and are still inaccessible to the public. Oak asserts they contain a headless statue of Lord Shiva and other objects commonly used for worship rituals in Hindu temples. Fearing political backlash, Indira Gandhi's gorvernment tried to have Prof. Oak's book withdrawn from the bookstores, and threatened the Indian publisher of the first edition dire consequences. There is only one way to discredit or validate Oak's research.The current government should open the sealed rooms of the Taj Mahal under U.N. supervision, and let international experts investigate. Do circulate this to all your friends and let them know about this reality..... Cheers Murali

Posted by: Mr. prasanth N At: 22, Nov 2001 7:01:40 AM IST

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