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| Yes, power will exchange from cunning Andhaites to mellowing Telanganites. BTW did you read the original 20 points in the bottom
Posted by: Mr. Konu Venkat At: 22, Aug 2003 2:47:10 PM IST Let it be 200. It's power exchange and disintegration. Your 20 carrots in front of the cart will workout soon.
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 21, Aug 2003 10:42:40 PM IST Let it be 200. It's power exchange and disintegration. Your 20 carrots in front of the cart will workout soon.
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 21, Aug 2003 10:42:38 PM IST First read the 20 points made here. Then u will know
Posted by: Mr. Konu Venkat At: 21, Aug 2003 10:40:04 PM IST Truth out is there. What you tell is the truth?
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 21, Aug 2003 10:37:48 PM IST You don't have patience to digest the truth. So acting so irresponsibilly. But, don't forget, democracy works only when every body understands the isuues
Posted by: Mr. Konu Venkat At: 21, Aug 2003 10:34:46 PM IST Dump it
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 21, Aug 2003 10:32:59 PM IST For startes read and understand why we need seperate Telangana
1) "When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one
people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with
another, and to assume among the Powers of the earth, the separate
and equal station to which the laws of Nature and the Nature's God
entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires
that they should declare the causes which impel them to the
separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the
pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are
instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of
the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes
destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or
to abolish it, and to institute new Government, having its foundation
on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them
shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established
should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly
all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer,
while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing
the forms to which they are accustomed. But, when a long train of
abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a
design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it
is their duty, to throw off such patient sufferance of these
Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to
alter their former Systems of Government." ("Declaration of
Independence," Thomas Jefferson, July 4, 1776). The history of
Telangana people is four hundred and fifty years of long history of
repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the
establishment of an absolute Tyranny over the state. We, therefore,
the representatives of Telangana State, declare a separate state, in
the name of and by authority of good people of Telangana. (Adaptation
of "Declaration of Independence," Thomas Jefferson, July 4, 1776).
If this is the will of Telangana people, then we should respect that
will of the people. Are they ready for it?
2) Andhra people wanted to be separate too. We should respect their
democratic aspirations also.
3) Smaller states are better managed. This is good for all three
Andhra (~30 m population), Rayalaseema (~12 m) and Telangana (~24 m)
regions, each having enough resources to survive. Each new state will
have many times larger populations than countries like Suriname (0.5
m), Swaziland (1 m), Singapore (3m), Slovakia (5 m), Israel (5m),
Eritrea (4 m), Switzerland (7 m), Denmark (5 m), (and more, both rich
and poor countries, the list is very long), etc., each having a vote
in the United Nations! Sweden (8m) won the seat in the UN Human
Rights Commission by beating the US, recently. (see also 16).
4) All the three new states will need new capital cities. That means
two new cities will be upgraded to the capital cities, one in Andhra
and the other in Rayala Seema. I need not emphasize the advantages of
having a capital city in each of these regions, hopefully with
international airports and foreign embassies/consulates. If this is
an unnecessary duplication, then there was no need for even one city-
Hyderabad, because we could adjust with one capital-New Delhi, or
even better one world capital-Washington DC.
5) There will be three states having Telugu as Official Language.
Formation of Linguistic States didn't prevent Hindi speakers having
several states. This allows the literature to flourish in three
distinct Telugu languages.
6) Telangana has a distinct dialect that is developed over the past
four hundred years, under the domination of Muslim autocratic
regimes, for good or bad. Now Telangana has a distinct culture and
language. It should not be extinct. It should be protected. The only
way is to have a separate state.
7) Family Unity arguments, such as a family of three children with a
mom and dad, are not relevant, because when the three children grow,
marry and have their own families, they are going to be separate.
Joint family is a thing of the past.
8) The argument that they fight each other is not valid either,
because all the brothers and sisters, who separate and have their own
families, are not fighting. The old joint families gave away to the
new viable and happy nuclear families. They are not killing each
other. If a bitter fight achieves the separation, then the hatred
continues for generations. That is why it is very important for us to
recognize that fighting against an inevitable separation only sows
seeds of hatred. It is important to separate with love and
friendship.
9) By forcing a brother or sister in the same home, against their
wishes, we are not going to achieve love or affection. We are certain
to create emotional hell in that house. They will run away anyway.
When they run away, they will not want even talk to us, because now
we are enemies. Also, this unity is similar to forcing someone into
a marriage much against his or her wishes, especially when she or he
has a different lover. The result would be suffering.
10) Telugu is different from Tamil today because we became separate
and developed our own languages out of the old Dravidian language.
Having new species in languages is not bad. Variety is the spice of
life. If everybody speaks the same language, then there is no need
for the existence of 6 billion people. That is not the way nature
works. Nature is always for diversity and evolution of new species.
Telangana is different from Andhra because of four hundred years of
evolution and hybridization with Urdu. It is a new species that can
survive on its own. It is high time she moved with her share out of
the joint family and formed her own home, a nuclear family. It is
better to separate than fight in a joint family.
11) Survival of the fittest is one of the evolutionary principles. If
Telangana doesn't separate, the strongest and powerfull of the three
dialects dominates the rest and we will have soon a problem of
Srilankan magnitude. Telangana will continue to fight until the
separation is achieved or it is disintegrated. (By disintegration I
mean loss of identity and culture.) To prevent the bloodshed and
turmoil, it is better to follow the accepted principle of smaller of
states, without prejudice against Telangana or Rayalaseema or Andhra.
12) One of the arguments has been that all this struggle and talk
about separation is because of power hungry politicians. We may have
a lot of Chennareddys, who abandon the cause for their personal
gains. However, the cause remains until it is achieved and the
problem remains until it is solved. If we are wise, we shouldn't give
chance to Chennareddys. One way to do that is to solve the problem so
that there won't be any more opportunities for the corrupt. That
means separate the state into three states.
13) What is "small" and where is the end? Well, viability is the
limit. I don't think there is any other limit. For example,
Arunachal Pradesh (~0.8 m), Mizoram (~0.5 m), Sikkim (~0.5 m), Goa
(~1m), Manipur (~ 2m), Meghalaya (~ 2m), Nagaland (~1 m) etc. are all
viable states. So are the countries like Suriname (0.5 m), Swaziland
(1 m), Denmark (5 m), Switzerland (7 m), etc.
14) The argument that smaller state doesn't solve the problem of
backwardness because the cause for lack of development is corruption
is not valid. There is no society in this world without some kind of
corruption. There will always be self-centered and corrupt people in
any society. However, the problem here is that the Telangana leaders
are relegated to puppets by powerful Andhra politicians. An example
is PV's short tenure as Chief Minister.
15) The question of lack of leadership is often cited. I hear people
argue for a charismatic leader. However, if the dominant Andhra
politicians are not there, automatically there will be a leader
emerging out of nowhere to lead the state. Here again a good example
is PV, who became prime minister and ran the country more efficiently
than many charismatic leaders, with all his drawbacks like, lack of
charisma and leadership qualities, being a puppet for all through the
life, etc. We need to give a chance to the local people to become
leaders. The present situation doesn't give that chance as proved by
the past fifty years. It may take a little while for the new state
to reorganize and go full steam. When we wasted 400 and 50 years,
another experiment with local leadership is not going to hurt. I am
certain; it will prove to be the most efficient system so far.
16) While European Union is consolidating, we still see separatist
movements in Balkans, which looks like an odd thing. However, there
is a very good point, that is, each people want to be part of the
European Union as an independent state with their identity intact. It
is same here in the Indian Union. Nobody is interested in separating
from the Indian Union. However, for reasons like the preservation of
cultural and linguistic identity, better administration etc., the
smaller states are advocated. Nobody disputes the fact that the
smaller states have a chance to do well economically. Most of the
large states/countries are among the backward/underdeveloped states
in the world. (Only glaring exception being the United States, which
is an entirely different kind of beast that cannot be dragged into
this discussion at all. One main reason being it is a country of
immigrants, while the discussion is around densely populated old
civilizations that don't have incentives/reasons for immigration.
Nobody from US or Europe wants to go to Medak looking for green
pastures or gold!).
17) Smaller state doesn't guarantee success. However, compared to a
part in a larger state, the smaller state fares better. If Telangana
State is formed today and fifty years from now the state remains
wretched and poor, then Telangana has nobody to blame but herself,
(except natural calamities or terrorism, if any).
18) Neocolonialism (disguised imperialism) is another argument raised
now and then. Andhra people certainly dominated the Telangana.
There is plenty of evidence for that. They brought their money and
expertise to develop Hyderabad. Hyderabad city is a better and
different city compared to fifty years ago. They didn't use military
to colonize Telangana. But, they dominated Telangana economically and
administratively and diverted the programs to benefit coastal
districts. This may be called neocolonialism. They could have
developed Vijayawada or Visakhaptnam instead. Now is the chance to
do that. By getting rid of a backward region, a drag on the economy
of the rich coastal belt, they will do better. Probably the looser
is Telangana, but certainly not Andhra. Andhra has an incentive to
get rid off Telangana. If a Coastal Andhra State is carved out, it
will develop faster and further, with a new capital city and with an
enviable coastal line, rich soil and resource.
19) As I said in the first point, it should be the will of the
people. The people of Telangana, Andhra and Rayalaseema should raise
their voices for smaller states. If Telangana wants to be separate,
there is a need for a massive agitation. There is a need for leaders
like Potti Sriramulu, who can sacrifice their lives for the cause.
Unless such momentum is achieved, there won't be a Telangana State.
As long as Chennareddys are the leaders, nothing will happen.
Unfortunately, that is a fact.
20) Until then, no matter how many arguments and counter arguments we
have on the Internet involving intellectuals like me (who adopted the
US as home), nothing will happen. The ball has been in the court of
the people of Telangana.
Sreenivasarao Vepachedu, May 6, 2001
Posted by: Mr. Konu Venkat At: 21, Aug 2003 10:19:21 PM IST
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