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General Forum: Religion | | What is Religion.... Case Study - Hinduism | |
| Under one shade with different paths having a deviation in the real life. The reason for the deviation as not committed by the majority of the people.
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 26, Dec 2003 11:41:28 AM IST
Dear Mr. Nagesh Babu Adari
One point I would like to make here regd christianity. Jesus Christ is Gods Son and God himself. His birth was prophesied 4000 years BC. There are 300 prophesies all of which were fulfilled by him. There cannot ever another man who can fulfill all these prophesies. He is unique in this way that his arrival was waited by the whole creation because he give us redemption from sin.
There are references in form of Govt documents by his ciritcs and unbelievers about his miracles, death and resurrection. Resurrection is a historic fact which even athiests, agnostics and skeptics believe. Please refer to Josephus, Pliny, tachicus et al. Even unbelievers cant deny his existance and his miracles.
These are all reputed historians whose works are honoured as historically and factually accurate. Their documents are also used to verify other archeological artifacts to verify their authenticity.
So Christianity is not about worship of a man. It is the faith on this God the Christ who came in the flesh to Earth to take the sins of the whole mankind and died on the cross. He did this to obey the Father, who loved us somuch that he let his Son die so that we humans, his creation dont have to dir. Jesus Christ rose again from the dead on the 3rd day. In his resurrection we christians have the assurance of life after this physical Death. Life in Gods Presence. Jesus Christ paid for our sins and made us sinless so we can stand infront of God the father being made sinless. He is the creator, author and perfector of all things.
Posted by: Mr. Apolo getics At: 24, Dec 2003 4:31:34 AM IST
i think u r personalizing this issue too much ms.appu
as of here, i think mr. avunuri and mrs. vijaya said it right. for we cannot jump to conclusions about things we do not fully understand. religion is supposed to help man find the 'truth', whether it does help him or not depends on a lot of issues, but your statement that "all over the world there is no such kind of discrimination" and "may almighty save indians!!!!!!!!" sound very childish i am sorry. u seem to hv a overly-worsened view of ur own country and and overly-nicened view of the 'rest of the world'
Posted by: Ms. G Sunita At: 23, Jul 2003 4:16:01 PM IST
Religion is the transformation of human relations in the society. Which sould teach us better living and values of life. It bounds the people as a strong group to improve right living in the peaceful society. If it distrubs the lives of people, it is not a Religion. The heads of those Religions distrubing and harming the society has to realise and try to correct the people in those specific gruop. Otherwise there is no difference in Religion and Don controlled groups....
Posted by: Mr. Bosu Avunoori At: 6, Jul 2003 11:17:39 PM IST
one correction is Instead of not good reader/ not good writer.
Posted by: Mr. Nagesh Babu Adari At: 12, Aug 2002 10:36:01 PM IST
hi All,
I am following all the articles from long time. I am a good talker but not good reader.
Somebody Said we are not talking worshiping but hindusiam.
Hindu--Hindusiam/Buddist--Buddisiam/Christ--Christian/Muslim--Islam/Unknown--Tribes(ancestors) /no comments for non worshipers.
If we start from tribes-- In a group of people one elderly person do some pray in fron of tree or stone....etc. every one follows that. here we can't define what they are.
Relegion (group)/Ma tham (naa &maa -- group)/islam (is- this/lam A group, especially of birds or aircraft, flying together)
human beings are
nitya sodhakulu(always searches)/satya saadhakulu (finds the truth)/ Satya bhodakulu (preaches the truth).
Christianity is tought by a human being by following the above path. Some group following his path (like ancestors) and seeing god in his form.
Islam is tought by another human being by following the above path. Some group followed by his path (like ancestors) and seeing god in his form.
Every one knows about buddist.
All the above preached about Kaama (korika) and its karma (result) and kartha (sufferer/doer). only the language used is different.
We as hindus made god who ever followed the path. Before some body follwed it we made it with imaginary (superstitial--which is true). Who ever followed and preached. we made them preasts (Rishi's).
As we(ancestors) imagined all these reforms to human being again.
That's why hindusiam(lord Krishna--person/god who belongs to our group) said ---Kaama/Kartha/Kriya--is lies in you (body).
Karma not always lies in you(body). The results go some where, where you couldn't predict.
As somebody said it is liberity. Again it is you (body). Nobody stops you by any means. But the results stop you by yourself.
example:- you like to eat something. which effects you some where in your body. you will suffer. Next you wouldn't do because of the result. You may try to eat same thing agian. here you are following the path Nitya Sodhakudu---one you reach the final point (known result--satyam/ Unknown result--Karma). You will tell others the result. if this superstitious(unknow result) happened in physical form (tree/animal/human). Then you start praying that form as God.
you can become priest/God for a group of people by following the above path. Here is where a human becomes God.
So hindusiam Teaches mostly about this unknown result (Karma). That's what every human goes through. The path human goes is life. Hindusiam is nothing but life for a group of people(US). That's why we say hindusiam doesn't mean of worshiping god. It applies to every one. There is no bar for this in shape of God. My opinion is implement this hindusiam in life path and pray which ever form of god you want.
But understanding is the most toughest in lifes path.
Posted by: Mr. Nagesh Babu Adari At: 12, Aug 2002 10:35:01 PM IST
In my openion religion is a process of thinking and it should change with time! The rules and the methods etc specified are suitable at the time when the religion is formed. Hence it is necessary to change these rules as per the needs and times.
Posted by: Mr. Subrahmanyam D. At: 12, Aug 2002 7:34:37 PM IST
relegion was started as a bunch of guidelines but now converted into opium of the people.it is the time for the people to think rationally and get rid of it
Posted by: Mr. klb At: 30, May 2002 11:15:10 AM IST
Hi everybody....so giving alms is satisfying ones ego......so does this mean that mothertheresa was satisfying her ego by serving those poor and sick ones? Is TTD satisfying its ego by feeding thousands of piligrims who can not find accomodation and food rather afford it ? All those people who go there already have an opinion about their religion ....otherwise they wouldn't travel such long distances just to receive alms.
As mr Vinay has said religion is not for dependency but for liberation .....how true but for that spiritual liberation again we have to depend on religion. And here again comes the economic factor "religion is not for empty stomachs" and its a circle.
Posted by: Ms meghana n At: 31, Jan 2002 10:15:59 PM IST
hi all ....i have been following this discussion regarding religion . What vivekananda said was " 'religion' is not for empty stomachs" he din't specify if its hinduism or christianity or islam...... and what swamiji said is cent percent true. But that definitley dosen't mean that hinduism or for that matter any religion is only for stomach full and rich people. Iam not very sure about other religions at present but as far as Hinduism is concerned as ms Samatha has said it covers everything and every one rich or poor. The best example is worshipping Lord Vinayaka or shiva or for that matter any god . No shastra or purana asks us to worship them with goldenflowers or silver flowers....and so comes the concept of worshipping with leaves of trees. Definitley a poor man can afford this and so hinduism is not a hobby for stomach full and rich . If the festivals now a days are commercialised its not the fault of hinduism but fault of society,fault of those who want to exhibit their wealth in a pathetic way.
One more thing regarding "religion is not for empty stomachs" ......here comes the concept of prasadam and annadanam in temples. Definitely this concept is aimed towards empty stomachs. There may be many other reasons though. So i feel understanding a religion is not an easy thing. It needs an unbiased thinking . And if we can do that we can realise truth .
Posted by: Ms meghana n At: 30, Jan 2002 10:32:09 PM IST
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