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Posted by: Mr. rahul rahuldev2000 At: 29, Oct 2002 3:35:56 PM IST
yes, pavan is right. i have seen some really cases in UK where boys from good families are working as cleaning boys, and they do not get treated politely by the whites for that. when i see huge ques outside embassies i wonder about these issues too.
Posted by: Mr. S M At: 13, Aug 2002 11:32:31 PM IST
sreedhar garu,
i dont agree on the catch phrase 'dignity of labour' as well. Will the same person carry out a similar responsibity in India? No. People 'console' themselves under the garb of dignity of labour and better money abroad is an excuse.
I say 'Herd Mentality' in the context, that the people make a beeline for the embassies giving up a 'dignified' job(indian terms) for a more 'enhanced and dignified' odd job abroad. Very ironic, isnt it?
And odd jobs do not neccessarily mean sitting over the till or working at superstores. It is much more broader including the jobs of a cleaner/sweeper or even scavenging. I do not intend to be rude or proud or mean when i state this. I would like to state the classic example of an aquaintance here. He does a scavenging job overhere. But if offered the same money in India will he take up that job overthere?
The actual side of reality is not always bright. So queing up at embassies solely for the purpose of securing an odd job because of the 'M' factor(being aware of the dull market conditions here) is what I typically call as herd mentality.
Posted by: Pavan At: 13, Aug 2002 3:19:21 PM IST
Pavan garu,
I am not saying they are happy with what they are doing, but they are happy with the out come.
Also u misunderstood my line "forgetting their family", when they see that there family is happy bcoz of their hard work then one forgets all the pain including that he is missing his family. They console themselves with all these things.
After all to get something, we have to lose something, but whether its worth loosing or not is again another issue, which depends lot of other things.
and this i don't believe as "Herd Mentality".
Posted by: Sreedhar G At: 13, Aug 2002 0:36:59 AM IST
sreedhar garu,
i agree with some of your views.I strongly deny the view that 'They starts saving money, and to save more they sacrifies some of their interests, but they are very happy, bcoz they are sacrifying for their own family, they are working for their loved ones. and this pleasure makes them forget that they are away from their family, their frineds, their relatives, so whats a big deal of forgetting the way of their living'.
I would like to raise a few questions
Do you think they are really very happy? Do they actually forget that they are away from their family?
Well. my friend, reality is different. They are the least happy lot( unless the person in question cares a damn for the socio-political, family and economic values,which i guess can be discussed under another section).
Bottomline : if someone is happy doing something, then fine let him/her go ahead with it, rather than cribbing about what they do, which sadly is what happens when people migrate in large numbers and end up in odd jobs.(Herd Mentality).
Posted by: Pavan At: 12, Aug 2002 10:14:13 PM IST
Pavan gaaru,
I really appreciate ur advice for the new comers that not to fall in the hands of consultants and get cheated. Even i do the same if somebody asks me. At the same time i second Dhara gaaru.
But the way u said the "Herd mentality" of andhrites i didn't accept with u. Every body wants to live a better life, they want make their parents happy, they want to be someone in the so-called high society where a person is recognised mostly by wealth. In that pursuit they starts with a job there, and they are happy that they started supporting their family. In their daily life one day they finds out their friend / neighbour who came to visit their parents from abroad and after a chat with them learns that going abroad gives them a chance to fulfill their dreams, which will take much much more time in thier mother country. So they leaves the country and all beloved for a better future and ends up here. Some body lucky enough to get a job and some body may not. After waiting for sometime, they starts doing odd jobs. They starts saving money, and to save more they sacrifies some of their interests, but they are very happy, bcoz they are sacrifying for their own family, they are working for their loved ones. and this pleasure makes them forget that they are away from their family, their frineds, their relatives, so whats a big deal of forgetting the way of their living. Its not bcoz of crazy to live in abroad where u have all kinds of luxuries, but with a goal in mind, with some responsbilities, drems about their future. I really proud of them that being well qualified for a high-tech job they are doing odd jobs and i always encourage them, bocz, thats dignity of labour, they are not cheating anybody to live, and i am sure
if not today, the success will touch their feet.
How do u define comfort, living in big houses, having AC cars, eating in continental restaurants (hygenic food) ?
Thats not the real comfort, the real comfort is there when u r surronded by ur family members, wiht all the loved ones and the happy and comfort at that time u get is eternal.
Posted by: Sreedhar G At: 12, Aug 2002 9:43:25 AM IST
Try and try till you succeed. A person who can push himself to the limits can be successful here even in the current situation.(Its only my observation of a few friends). Typically, we telugus would like to handover a resume to some recruiting agencies or friends and wait for them to get back to us. But self promotion is a better way to increase your chances of getting a job here apart from the above. So keep looking for ads on the internet/mags and if there are is any contact information mentioned, please do not hesitate to call them, take an appointment with the recruiting person (either HR or someone) , meet them in person wherever possible and give your best shot to convince that you are the person for the job. And this does work.
It is worth appyling for the jobs if you can dare to be different in your approaches rather than the old way of approaching some recruiting agency. Self-promotion can be a key to getting a job here. Its worth a try.
Posted by: Pavan At: 27, May 2002 3:57:49 PM IST
hi mr pavan...i do notice this is the case...i am pursuing a full time mba here and can see from teh number of rejections that no british company will give me a job on par with my qualificayions and experience so at this moment my husband and i want to return home...why do you think this is happening...i think partly because there is this picture of being abroad being equal to living in a superior place with clean roads etc ....sad really...bcoz we have so much talent in india and most of it ends up going abroad....but whats yr opinion...is it worth it trying to apply for jobs at all here?
vasudha
Posted by: Ms. S S At: 26, May 2002 9:43:02 PM IST
dhara,
Is ending up in an odd job here a good deal?
I dont think so. I will pass on info abt a good deal surely but not that of an odd job which I consider is a deal only to keep onself living in that country(US or UK).
For your information, Dhara, I did come on a real good deal. My suggestion to the struggling newcomers will be dont hurry, wait for the right deal and come here on a proper deal so that you can have a good life here and in India as well. I do have friends mostly who are into odd jobs and my opinion is only a reflection of theirs. They do regret taking up such jobs but carry on with it due to various socio-economic and personal reasons. Life is not as rosy as the newcomers/strugglers think it will be.
Posted by: Pavan At: 9, May 2002 4:19:12 PM IST
pavan and srinivas reddy u both think about ur self how u came here then u talk.
u must be proud that so many andhra people r coming abroad(uk or usa).if u can do any thing pl help our people,don't discourage.we come so far leaving our relatives not just for fun,with lot of pain.
Posted by: roopendra ramineni At: 30, Apr 2002 10:32:29 PM IST
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