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| okapIDa vadulutundi suuryaa raakapOtE
prakRutErguNasammUDhaa@hssajjantE guNakarmasu
taanakRutsnavidO mandaankRutsnavinna vichaalayEt
gItaachaaryulavaaru kUDA ' ISvarOham ' anEvaarini asurasvabhaavam kalavaarigaa cheppaaru 16 va adhyaayam 14 vaSlOkam
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 18, Jul 2007 10:04:49 AM IST
"One should leave the house only when the atmosphere is opposing your spiritual effort"
then why the hell u assumed that all parents, all wives, all kids are vehment enemies? why the hell u said "do u love sleeping snake?"
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"Even in that case one should try his best to change the atmosphere by preaching the family members"
now, u hv come on track
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"Ramanuja left his wife"
"Mirabai left home"
"Ramakrishna Paramahamsa did not leave his wife "
if this is ur argument, then sankaracharya didn't marry. madhvacharya didn't marry. so many other acharyas didn't marry. on the other hand pundarika, pralhada, dhruva etc were married. several sages were married. what hv u understood from these "married", "not-married", "married-but-left" cases!!! mere uttering names cud not be called as spiritualism. can that be!!
:P
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"Even if the atmosphere is neutral one should not leave the house and hurt others"
when did u get this enlightnment? after loosing ur battle with me *L*
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"Jesus told that ..."
i am least bothered what jesus told.
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"so, i am leaving this forum"
the final act of a looser!!
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u r a brain-washed fellow. u need to study a lot. ur lotus feet is half cooked with half knowledge. u better know that half knowledge is always dangerous
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 17, Jul 2007 8:09:36 PM IST
"So, i feel that you are not definitely considering yourself as Lord. Hence, there is every probability that your interpretations are also not correct"
what the hell r u talking, murderer!! mr. murthy is not arguing on his own. he is quoting from scriptures. whereas, u r trying to rub ur bullshitting personal ideas
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"You may quote verses from scriptures but what is the guarantee that your interpretations are correct?"
gita is a smruti
daivim tanumarshrita " means human incarnation
sastra means logic
whose bullshit interpretations r these? ain't not urs? can any1, who got basic idea abt hindu philosophy accept ur interpretations!!!!
when i caught u on numerous occassions abt wrong interpretations where the hell u were hiding? in the great abode of ur lotusfeet's??
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"so, how sensible is it for you to always say my interpretations are only incorrect?"
u insensible lot! shut ur mouth first n take up my previous challenges abt words "runam", "avatara" n "samsara"? why the heck u r not coming back on these?
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"Narada bhakti sutra ays 'tanmayahite...', "
why r u behind Narada? Ok! accepting ur bullshitting interpretation for "tanmayahite", why r u ignoring following sutras from the same narada bhakti sutra
"na tatsiddhau loka vyaavahaaro heyaḥ
kintu phalatyaagas tat saadhanam cha kaaryameva"
which means ever after achieving spiritual pursuit, one should not abadon his/her wordly responsibilities. rather abandoning them, they shud surrender the results to the lord. this implies that one should strive to gain spiritual goal while delivering the wordly duties
same narada told again
"modanti pitro nrutyanti devataah sa naatha cheyam bhur bhuvanti"
when a person becomes utmost devotee to god, not only the devotee but his forefathers (actually means all family members)also njoy the blessings of lord.
now, talk abt ur kicking-thy-parents, kicking-thy-wife/kds theory?
when u hv read narada bhakti sutra, did u not read these? or these suktas r missing in ur parents-hating-lotus-feet's book??
now tell us, who r giving misinterprations? me, mr. murthy r u n ur foolish lotus feet!!
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"Even though God is the base of the world, the world does not touch Him as the man touches the cot. It is possible in the case of a daydreamer. bla bla bla......"
again scrap! why the hell u bark out illogical arguments all the time? why the hell u trying to link cot's perception n god's perception??
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 17, Jul 2007 11:45:17 AM IST
Spiritual Effect!
Posted by: Mr. M Kumar N At: 16, Jul 2007 5:55:35 PM IST
Posted by: Mr. surya prakki At: 14, Jul 2007 8:12:26 PM IST
mIru cheputunnavi Saastra viruddhamugaa nunnavi
// you are always asking to show miracles for accepting the human incarnation!!! But you say differently now.//
mirakils chuupistunnaaDu kaabaTTi mI hyuuman inkaarnEshan bhagavantuDani anTE nEnu indrajaala, maayaajaala, Takku, tamaaram vidyalu chuupinchinanta maatraana bhagavantuDu kaalEru. nijamgaa bhagavantuDu chuupina anitara saadhyamaina panulanu chEyamannaanu kaani I TakkuTamaara vidyala mIda naaku nammakam lEdu.
// 1) Human incarnation: the verse applicable here is 'manushim tanumasritam...', which means Lord enters a human being, who is a combination of physical, subtle and causal bodies and pervades all over the three bodies (antar bahischa ...).//
maanushIm tanu.. anTE maanava SarIramu antE gaani maanavuDu kaadu. maanavaSarIramu ASrayinchu vunna bhagavantuDani. adi nijamgaa maanava SarIram kaadu alaakanipinchEdani. bhagavantuniki bhautika, suukshma, lingaSarIraalu lEvu avi vunDEvi jIvulakE. alaanTi SarIramulO bhagavantuDokaDE vunTaaDu jIvi vunDaDu.
2) Real devotee: Narada bhakti sutra says 'tanmayahite...', which mean Lord exists in the heart of His devotees. But, here God is not pervading all over the body of devotee, but exists in the heart only. Hanuman showed Lord Rama in His heart. But, in Lord Rama, God is all over the body. So, in the case of real devotee, devotee & God exists. so, there is a chance for making mistakes. Whenever devotee becomes egoistic, Lord withdraws. But such situation don't arise in human incarnation, who is Lord from birth to death of that body. It means Lord withdraws only before the death of that body.//
anTE mIvuddESyam okka bhaktuni SarIram lOnE jIvuDu, bhagavantuDunTAru. migataa praaNulalO ( leave alone human beings)
bhagavantuDunDaDanaa?
idi Suddha tappu Saastra viruddham . dvaasuparNaa, inkaa bhagavadgItaa vaakyaalaku viruddham . bhagavantuDu anni praaNulalOnuu vunnaaDu
// 3) Normal human beings: Only soul exists in such human beings. There is no existence of Lord in such human beings.//
Utter false. You can not imagine such situation. If LORD is not there it will be a deadbody only.
Show scriptural proof (vEda or upanishats)
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 16, Jul 2007 2:46:39 PM IST
Posted by: Mr. surya prakki At: 14, Jul 2007 2:40:53 PM IST
// The fraud human incarnations get some powers from God by penance and they exhibit these powers to attract the people and claim themselves as God. The demons did like this and innocent people were trapped. But the sages like Vyasa and Jaimini will never agree such demons as God.//
mI hyuuman inkaarnEshan gurinchi chakkagaa cheppaaru. vyaasulavaarivaraku, jaiminulavaari varaku enduku nEnE oppukOnu. mIvalenaa? mIru innosenTukaadu ignoranTu
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 14, Jul 2007 4:42:05 PM IST
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 14, Jul 2007 3:40:14 PM IST
mIristunna laanTi TrITmenTukUDA chaaladEmO I pichchi tuglak suuryaaki anipistOndi.
intakumundu hyuuman bODiilO okka bhagavantuDE vunTADu, migaa vaaTilO bhagavantuDunDaDu okkajIvE vunTundani ippuDEmO inkO rakam gaa renDU vunTAyanTunnaaDu. nijamgaa Emi cheputunnaaDO EmiTO!
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 14, Jul 2007 4:35:36 PM IST
Posted by: Mr. surya prakki At: 14, Jul 2007 2:40:53 PM IST
ikkaDa tamaru kuustunna kaaru kuutalannI tamavaa? lEka tamahyuuman inkaarnEshan gaarivaa antaaparamachetta tappuDu vyaakhyaanaaluunuu. enduku andarnI ilaa bhrashTu paTTinchaalanukunTunnaaru?
// Gita says ‘Uddharedaatmanaa atmanam’ which means that you should not believe some other person to help you and you should help yourself in the spiritual field //
mari inkaenduku mI inakaarnEshan danDuga kadaa? Palatyaagamenduku?
daanasalartham adikaadu mahASayaa! adE ayitE ' upadESyanti tE jNjaanam jNjaanina@h tattvadarSina@h ' ani adE gItalO enduku cheppaaru ?
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 14, Jul 2007 4:18:59 PM IST
// As there are fraud devotees there are fraud human incarnations also. //
tamagurinchi tamaguruvu(hyuuman inkaarnEshan gurinchi chakkagaa vunna nijam cheppaaru :))
puTTagoDugulu laaga inkaa anEka daaraalenduku suuryaa? vunnavaaTilO EmI cheppalEka nOrumuusukunTunnaaru?
Posted by: Mr. HAYAGREEVA MURTY Rachuri At: 14, Jul 2007 4:00:14 PM IST
"Gita says ‘Uddharedaatmanaa atmanam’ which means that you should not believe some other person to help you and you should help yourself in the spiritual field"
one more superficial interpretation. why the hell u fail to dig out the inner meaning? as it doesn't fit to ur schemes? is this not a onesided conclusion by a fool?
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"Therefore a devotee may err sometime because the soul in the body may not understand clearly whatever the Lord says. You can see the difference in the utility of donations spent by a committee of devotees and a committee of devotees guided directly by the Lord in human form"
u mean to say that ur lotus-feet-run committee is much better than Pratibha Sahakari Bank :P
ppl suffering with black money can boldly invest in ur committee-of-money-craving-devotees :P
why the hell u bring money in spiritual matters, all the time *L*
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"In the first case lot of money is wasted and in the second case the money is properly utilized"
black money got "properly utilized" to become white. what a black magic!
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"Therefore it is better to participate in the service of the Lord in human form than in the service conducted by a committee of devotees."
ok friends! go n invest in lotus-feet apakari bank. ur (nil) returns r assured by surya *L*
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"As there are fraud devotees there are fraud human incarnations also"
this is what i am telling u from the beginning.
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"Veda and Gita supported by Sastras (Logic)"
sastra means logic !!!!!
hell with u fucker. u commit mistakes with truckload of grace. anumana(anumAna)means logic. Sastra means which gives comfort.
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"Sankara entered the house of Mandana Mishra even though the doors were bolted"
so can a mice too *L*
"They did not praise Sankara for that miracle"
when i myself don't praise this as miracle how come vyasa n jaimini can *L*
"If we were in their place we will just fall on the feet of Sankara praising Him as God"
r u not doing this with ur asshole feet??
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" Miracles are not the only signs of God"
why r u diverting the subject? did i/we ask u to explain abt miracles Vs God? answer my previous challenges sucker
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"All the three accepted Sankara as the incarnation of Lord Siva"
read out a story-unique n compare the same with contemporary fuckers!!what a clever scheme to project assholes as gods!!! when asked for proofs, blink blank n open another thread to pour shit :P
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"So the real sign of the Lord is divine knowledge which is true and infinite and cannot be possessed by any other soul"
here i am , possessing much more truthful, much more definite (if not infinite) spiritual knowledge than ur asshole lotus feet, a lotus feet which wants black money investments, a lotus feet which misinterprets sastra as logic, gita as smruti, parents as vehment enemies. he is just a big asshole. not only for me for any1 who hv undergone spiritual journey as per ancient customs.
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"Veda says the same ‘Satyam Jnanam Anantam Brahma, Prajnanam Brahma, Anando Brahma’"
first two lines r far from ur asshole feet's understanding capacities. the best he can understand is Anando(black money) bramha (God)
*L*
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will u stop harping on ur trash n do something meaningful. say answering my challenges, without opening another shitting thread?
Posted by: Sagatu Telugu Jeevi At: 14, Jul 2007 3:40:14 PM IST
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